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post Oct 6 2017, 14:08
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Oct 6 2017, 02:10) *

I have heard from evreyone from start that holy mage is fastest

So Please, can 1H master experts share their clear time of PFUDOR DWD.
As "Goldage" does it with holy mage in under 9min.

I want to know how much of a difference it is,
Clear time of expert holy mage and expert 1H.?

(i.e. is it even worth switching to mage in future )

Or the clear time difference is negligible?


I am not 1H master (only 8,661 ADB), but just to get more info.
5,284 steps; 29 minutes; 3 tps
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post Oct 6 2017, 16:19
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I need some help guys:

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This should not be possible. But it happened before to me, not monster 155 but monster 156 has been created, and as a consequence, 155 is now also a mechanoid. I run HVtoolbox 1.03. Without scripts, last time, this did not happen. What's up with this?
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post Oct 6 2017, 16:34
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 6 2017, 01:44) *

my actually record for PFUDOR DwD is 5256 turns with 9320 ABD. But i am maybe not the best comparson 1H player when it comes to Goldage. Better we wait for a 1H player above the 10k ABD.


either way i play Pfudor DWD totaly wrong or 1H is just a crapy style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

13450 ADB , Dæmon Duality V, Wind Rapier with Holy Infusion.

best run = 3200 turns. depending if only use ofc, or rota ofc with skill2 from 1H (vital strike),
the t/s varies between 2,4-3,1. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) best run 20min, no attention run 25min. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(if you need to pay attention that Overwhelming Strikes (buff) is on you befor use ofc,
or 2x attention for vital strike ((buff + stunn) i dont chain skill1+2)), then i guess its normal to have crap t/s as 1H)
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post Oct 6 2017, 16:47
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Oct 5 2017, 20:10) *

I have heard from evreyone from start that holy mage is fastest

So Please, can 1H master experts share their clear time of PFUDOR DWD.
As "Goldage" does it with holy mage in under 9min.

I want to know how much of a difference it is,
Clear time of expert holy mage and expert 1H.?

(i.e. is it even worth switching to mage in future )

Or the clear time difference is negligible?



From what I've seen, mages are 3 to 4 times faster on average than 1H melee. And more than being a top player (with the best equipment, hath perks and upgrades), in my opinion what makes the difference is the quality of the internet of each one. See the example posted by f4tal:

QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 09:08) *

I am not 1H master (only 8,661 ADB), but just to get more info.
5,284 steps; 29 minutes; 3 tps
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This time is very good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I've never been able to do it in less than 35 minutes. And as my internet is very unstable, in recent weeks my times ranged from 39 to 45 minutes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) And when it's too bad, this can go over 50. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

I have also seen some examples of players (level > 400) with ADB > 10000, but with times over 30 minutes (bad internet). At the same time, there was someone (level < 400) using DW (which is slower than 1H), but that did it in 30 minutes (good internet).

Even blackjac00, with his top gear, takes 26 minutes (this if I understood correctly what he wrote here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ).

QUOTE(Waifu Maniac @ Oct 6 2017, 11:34) *

either way i play Pfudor DWD totaly wrong or 1H is just a crapy style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

13450 ADB , Dæmon Duality V, Wind Rapier with Holy Infusion.

best run = 3200 turns. depending if only use ofc, or rota ofc with skill2 from 1H (vital strike),
the t/s varies between 2,4-3,1. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) best run 20min, no attention run 25min. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(if you need to pay attention that Overwhelming Strikes (buff) is on you befor use ofc,
or 2x attention for vital strike ((buff + stunn) i dont chain skill1+2)), then i guess its normal to have crap t/s as 1H)


Your times are excellent!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) And your t/s is good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Oct 6 2017, 17:21
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 17:47) *
This time is very good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Yes, it is all about good internet here. My regular tps is 2,8-3,2; very rarely I have more than 3,2.
I am doing Imperil on SchoolGirls (it lasts for 30 turns - more than enough to kill SG before imperil will expelled).
Also Holy Infusions =)
I am using alt site, btw.

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 17:47) *
I've never been able to do it in less than 35 minutes. And as my internet is very unstable, in recent weeks my times ranged from 39 to 45 minutes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) And when it's too bad, this can go over 50. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Have you tried alt site? Or different browser? Just to be sure it is ISP-related problem, not anything itself?

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 17:47) *
Even blackjac00, with his top gear, takes 26 minutes (this if I understood correctly what he wrote here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ).

O_O amazed. I thought blackjac00 should be the fastest one here with all his resources and equipment.
Maybe he don't really care and haven't ~really~ tried (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 6 2017, 17:19) *
I need some help guys:
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This should not be possible. But it happened before to me, not monster 155 but monster 156 has been created, and as a consequence, 155 is now also a mechanoid. I run HVtoolbox 1.03. Without scripts, last time, this did not happen. What's up with this?

Let me recap - You have unlocked two new slots, then created and named one monster, but game also created a second one on itself?
Maybe you pressed "back" button in browser or "reload" the page and form with new monster data were re-submitted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Oct 6 2017, 17:34
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 12:21) *

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Yes, it is all about good internet here. My regular tps is 2,8-3,2; very rarely I have more than 3,2.
I am doing Imperil on SchoolGirls (it lasts for 30 turns - more than enough to kill SG before imperil will expelled).
Also Holy Infusions =)


I do the same thing (with Holy or Dark Infusions), but my t/s should be below 2 (I do not know as I do not use scripts). The biggest problem is the lags and the sudden interruptions in the connection.

QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 12:21) *

I am using alt site, btw.
Have you tried alt site? Or different browser? Just to be sure it is ISP-related problem, not anything itself?


I use alt site too, in the Iron browser (which I use exclusively to play and forum activities). For all other activities I use Firefox and/or Chrome.

My problem is the ISP. The service has gotten a lot worse (it should be a lack of investment in maintenance and upgrading, because their equipment is old).

QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 12:21) *

O_O amazed. I thought blackjac00 should be the fastest one here with all his resources and equipment.
Maybe he don't really care and haven't ~really~ tried (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Probably his internet is not very good either (just regular).
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post Oct 6 2017, 18:19
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i did dwd in 40 minutes now with some pauses and not really a tryhard run, holy infusion.
gotta try to tryhard it sometime with monsterbation for the log (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

and im at 5.2k dmg / 37% crit / 62% crit dmg

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post Oct 6 2017, 18:31
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 16:47) *

Even blackjac00, with his top gear, takes 26 minutes (this if I understood correctly what he wrote here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ).


And here I thought he's an overpowered monster who can one punch bosses
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post Oct 6 2017, 18:32
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 6 2017, 18:31) *

And here I thought he's an overpowered monster who can one punch bosses

well, clearing final round of T&T in four rounds actually *means* one-shotting bosses on average (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 6 2017, 19:16
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Can confirm, takes me about 20-25min to do my PFUDOR DWD as a Holy Mage

My T/s is around 1.7-2.1
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post Oct 6 2017, 20:18
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Where can I find a complete list of spell/spell IDs?
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post Oct 6 2017, 20:21
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Where can I find a complete list of spell/spell IDs?

See below

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post Oct 6 2017, 20:42
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 11:21) *

Here we go: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4884182
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We need to form that list in some sort of good-looking list. Will do this right now.

Thank ye!

Thought it doesn't actually have the info I was looking for >.<

Is there a spell ID for mana potion? I know I can insert a 'use mana potion' into Monsterbations' hover set; I'm trying to do the same thing with MouseMagelee
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post Oct 6 2017, 20:47
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CODE
::Debuffs::
211: Drain              - 221: Slow             - 231: Blind
212: Weaken             - 222: Sleep            - 232: Silence
213: Imperil            - 223: Confuse          - 233: MagNet

::Buffs::
411: Protection         - 421: Absorb           - 431: Heartseeker
412: Haste              - 422: Spark of Life    - 432: Arcane Focus
413: ShadowVeil         - 423: Spirit Shield

::Curatives::
311: Cure
312: Regen
313: Full-Cure

::Offensive::
=Fire                   =Ice                      =Elec
111: Fiery Blast        - 121: Freeze             - 131: Shockblast
112: Inferno            - 122: Blizzard           - 132: Chained Lightning
113: Flames of Loki     - 123: Fimbulvetr         - 133: Wrath of Thor

=Wind                   =Holy                     =Dark
141: Gale               - 151: Smite              - 161: Corruption
142: Downburst          - 152: Banishment         - 162: Disintegrate
143: Storms of Njord    - 153: Paradise Lost      - 163: Ragnarok

::Fighting Skills::
=One-Handed             =Two-Handed               =Dual-Wielding
2201: Shield Bash       - 2301: Great Cleave      - 2401: Iris Strike
2202: Vital Strike      - 2302: Rending Blow      - 2402: Backstab
2203: Merciful Blow     - 2303: Shatter Strike    - 2403: Frenzied Blows

=Staff & Niten Ichiryu  =Misc
2101: Concussive Strike - 1011: Scan
2501: Skyward Sword     - 1101: FUS RO DAH
                        - 1111: Orbital Friendship Cannon
                        
::Items::
=Draughts               =Potions                  =Elixirs
11191: Health Draught   - 11195: Health Potion    - 11199: Health Elixir
11291: Mana Draught     - 11295: Mana Potion      - 11299: Mana Elixir
11391: Spirit Draught   - 11395: Spirit Potion    - 11399: Spirit Elixir

=Infusions
12101: ...of Flames     - 12201: ...of Frost      - 12301: ...of Lightning
12401: ...of Storms     - 12501: ...of Divinity   - 12601: ...of Darkness

=Scrolls
13101: ...of Swiftness  - 13111: ...of Protection - 13199: ...of the Avatar
13201: ...of Absorption - 13211: ...of Shadows    - 13221: ...of Life
13299: ...of the Gods

=Misc
11401: Energy Drink
11501: Last Elixir
19111: Flower Vase
19131: Bubble-Gum


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post Oct 6 2017, 20:48
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 20:21) *

Here we go: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4884182
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

We need to form that list in some sort of good-looking list. Will do this right now.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4966852

btw, while we're at it, remember me:
- what it could be useful for
- what other lists could be useful for coders and worth to move in first posts

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Is there a spell ID for mana potion?

11295.

btw, what do you need mousemagelee for?
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2017, 11:48) *

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4966852

btw, while we're at it, remember me:
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- what other lists could be useful for coders and worth to move in first posts
11295.

btw, what do you need mousemagelee for?


I can set spell ids to cast, and then press number keys and the spells are cast on the corresponding monsters. Can't do this with monsterbation.
It also plays nicer with HVS and HVDark.
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ Oct 6 2017, 20:57) *

I can set spell ids to cast, and then press number keys and the spells are cast on the corresponding monsters. Can't do this with monsterbation.
It also plays nicer with HVS and HVDark.

sort of a better keybind feature? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

btw, is mousemagelee still working? that's news (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Oct 6 2017, 21:02
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ Oct 6 2017, 21:42) *

Is there a spell ID for mana potion? I know I can insert a 'use mana potion' into Monsterbations' hover set; I'm trying to do the same thing with MouseMagelee

Ohh, you said about skills. Updated. See post above (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2017, 21:48) *
btw, while we're at it, remember me:
- what it could be useful for

Mostly for creating shortcuts to spells/items, like "Cast spell 311 if player pressed SHIFT+C" (cast "cure");
Also for creating interfaces, like quickbars.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2017, 21:48) *
- what other lists could be useful for coders and worth to move in first posts

I dunno, but those IDs ARE useful - we should put them somewhere for quick reference.

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2017, 11:59) *

sort of a better keybind feature? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

btw, is mousemagelee still working? that's news (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


It's working fine for me.

For Holy mage in Monsterbation, I use:
hoverAction = Strongest([Use(3), Cast('Paradise Lost'), Cast('Banishment'), Cast('Smite')]),

and it works fine; mana potion is used if available, etc etc etc

with mousemagelee, it isn't working, even with the spell ID.
var defaultAction = [11295,153,152,151];

Not being a practiced coder myself, I don't know what I'm doing wrong >.<
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 21:02) *

I dunno, but those IDs ARE useful - we should put them somewhere for quick reference.

alright, i'll take care of it. of both spells and items.

btw, can i ask for a review of mousemagelee code? i don't doubt sapo's work (rather, i thank him for having developed it) but if the script is still working i'd like to be sure it fulfills all the new guidelines before including it on compendium.
we're speaking about 184 lines, just in case: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4884505
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