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Sep 29 2017, 13:24
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jplshejeser
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CryXelis
i have never even got past 400 rounds of normal difficulty of grindfest
but if you have 3.x t/s to 4 t/s and huge block by using a force shield with huge block chance and all heavy shielding plates maybe you could do it
This post has been edited by jplshejeser: Sep 29 2017, 13:27
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Sep 29 2017, 13:29
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CryXelis
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 29 2017, 06:19)  You don't. Don't bother grindfest unless you are a very high level player with ultra strong build. You will be brutally slaughtered. For now you should concentrate on leveling up by playing as many random encounters as you can.
oh i see i thought that was possible for my level thanks
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Sep 29 2017, 13:33
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CryXelis
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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Sep 29 2017, 06:24)  CryXelis
i have never even got past 400 rounds of normal difficulty of grindfest
but if you have 3.x t/s to 4 t/s and huge block by using a force shield with huge block chance and all heavy shielding plates maybe you could do it
i never thought grindfest was that tough lol im still newb thanks tho
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Sep 29 2017, 13:43
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f4tal
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QUOTE hey experts how can i get past round 30 of grindfest? im using dw and plate gears and my abilities are ok i think, my current difficulty is hell, i just want to finish that 1000 rounds any tips? 1000 rounds of Grindfest at your level 96? It is too soon for you, even on normal. The catch is - monster's power is increasing with every round, so eventually by the round 600 you will fight with Nintendo-like monsters. Do not try to jump higher you head =) Hell, when last time I tried to do GF at PFUDOR - monsters killed me near round 800 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE i never thought grindfest was that tough lol im still newb thanks tho No, nothing bad at all =) It is just sounds astonishingly cool, brave and reckless to being able to clear Grindfest at level 96 even on normal difficulty. =) I think, with best setup you can afford right now you can clear up to round 50. With "bestest" setup and incredibly luck ever. More likely round 30-35. QUOTE are you stating that the usage of mana potion and elixirs is more economical than feathering all my equipment ? Yes - just using mana potions is way easier way to handle with MP cost. If you are wasting too many MP, then instead of using featherweight shards, do the following: 1. Increase your WIS stats (more MP); 2. Buy Innate Arcane (IA) perks (with every level your MP reduction for auto-casted spells would be decreased a little); 3. Buy Effluent Ether (EE) hath perk (+10% MP); 4. Check that you maxed out your "MP Tank" and "Better Mana Pots" abilities (more MP and more effective using of draughts and potions). With that setup and additions you should not care about MP at all. For example, I have 400 WIS, IA5, EE and maxed out abilities, and during the battle I am using, mostly, Mana draught to keep my MP at max and very rarely Mana Potions when my MP below 50%, I don't remember when I used Mana Elixir last time. This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 29 2017, 13:50
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Sep 29 2017, 13:48
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jplshejeser
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thanks for helping me f4tal
ill definitely do waht you said right now if save up enorugh money
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Sep 29 2017, 13:48
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(CryXelis @ Sep 29 2017, 13:17)  hey experts how can i get past round 30 of grindfest? im using dw and plate gears and my abilities are ok i think, my current difficulty is hell, i just want to finish that 1000 rounds any tips?
Sub lvl 100 generally won't be able to finish 1000 round of grind fest. At any difficulty. But hey, let's give advice so you can reach round 100. 1. Utilize DW parry bonus. look for offhand weapon that have good parry. 2. The key is to manage amount of enemy per round to survive, so buff out your overcharge by the end of each round, activate spirit stance, and dish out punishment at the begining of next round. (Master spirit stance, if it available to you). 3. what's your plate suffixes? focus on 'of protection.' it helps, a bit. 4. choose a good weapon to kill fast or choose a weapon that help you survive. bleeding weapon is prefered to kill fast, stunning weapon is for safety. penetrated armor is meh at your level. I know you haven't unlock that many arena, and don't always have token for ring of blood, so grindfest might be the only way for you stave off boredom until tomorrow.
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Sep 29 2017, 13:57
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f4tal
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QUOTE so grindfest might be the only way for you stave off boredom until tomorrow Ohh, yes - that is the reason, I suppose. Then you should play more Random Encounters. They give you more EXP, more credits and better drops. =) QUOTE But hey, let's give advice so you can reach round 100. To be fair, I doubt anyone below level 100 without good, say, magnificent equipment, may clean any round higher 50 in grindfest. But, hey, I would be glad and happy if anyone will =) The main problem with Grindfest at low levels, I think, is the amount of monsters. Already near round 40 player will fight with 6+ monsters at once and at round 80 he might fight with 8+ at once. It is just too much for low-levers (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Sep 29 2017, 13:57
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jplshejeser
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f4tal do you have your armors double potencied as juggernatiut+capat\ctior? and if you dont' have them right now, do you plan on doing so in the future?
i also forgot to state that my playstyle permanently relies on spamming imperil because of slow 0.8t/s
with alll my mana pool issues is it also ideal for me to iw service all my armor to double potency armors wit jug+capacitor ?
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Sep 29 2017, 14:05
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f4tal
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QUOTE f4tal do you have your armors double potencied as juggernatiut+capat\ctior? There are my equipment: Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter (0) Soulbound, IW 10, forged 25, ADB 32%, Parry 55% Legendary Zircon Force Shield of Protection (0) Soulbound, Str End Agi, IW 10, forged 40, BLK 83% Legendary Cobalt Power Helmet of Warding (0) Soulbound, IW 10, forged 5, ADB 90% Legendary Savage Power Armor of Slaughter (0) Soulbound, IW 10, forged 17, ADB 65% Legendary Savage Power Gauntlets of Slaughter (0) Soulbound, IW 10, forged 20, ADB 24% Legendary Savage Power Leggings of Warding (0) Soulbound, IW 10, forged 5, ADB 96% Legendary Cobalt Power Boots of Warding (0) Soulbound, IW 10, forged 5, ADB 68% , no i don't aim to get Capacitor at all - if I got one - it is good, if no - nothing wrong with it. Same for Juggernaut. Currently I have 29,965 HP and 1,957 MP QUOTE i also forgot to state that my playstyle permanently relies on spamming imperil because of slow 0.8t/s Try different browser. maybe another browser will speed things a little for you? QUOTE with alll my mana pool issues is it also ideal for me to iw service all my armor to double potency armors wit jug+capacitor ? Getting high juggernaut/capacitor potency on equipment may cost very much (even million). Maybe you should buy above mentioned perks first?
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Sep 29 2017, 14:09
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jplshejeser
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thanks a lot for going that far as to post your equipment to help me
and i will in the future buy the peerks you listed earlier
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Sep 29 2017, 14:16
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f4tal
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QUOTE thanks a lot for going that far as to post your equipment to help me It was not that hard after all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) 
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Sep 29 2017, 14:21
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jplshejeser
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i dodnt knkow you could do that wtf
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Sep 29 2017, 14:24
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Noni
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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Sep 29 2017, 14:21)  i dodnt knkow you could do that wtf
You need a script for that.
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Sep 29 2017, 14:28
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f4tal
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QUOTE i dodnt knkow you could do that wtf It is HVtoolBox Script. If you never ever used any script, check hereFor list scripts, visit here
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Sep 29 2017, 14:55
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jplshejeser
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im retarted
so sad but i have to give up
i tried that copy links equipment on the gif
i select all m y equopment but the tool box show nos litst of the equipment
but ic ant do it evn with all difrrent your toolbox scrpts
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Sep 29 2017, 14:59
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Sep 29 2017, 14:55)  im retarted
so sad but i have to give up
i tried that copy links equipment on the gif
i select all m y equopment but the tool box show nos litst of the equipment
but ic ant do it evn with all difrrent your toolbox scrpts
you have to tick the white boxes so that the black V appears, then press the 'List' button and typing a format in the white popup that will appear. if you have no clue not to write, try copy/pasting this: CODE [url=$url]$name[/url] $level This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 29 2017, 15:00
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Sep 29 2017, 15:06
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jplshejeser
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thank yoo so much it works now
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Sep 29 2017, 23:23
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BlueWaterSplash
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I saw decondelite and others talk about using imperil with 1H before. I trained imperil on all personas a little and experimented with it, but don't currently use it at all. How does it stack with penetrated armor? I was thinking it might either be redundant (capped at penetrated armor x3) or wouldn't add much further benefit (simply reducing mitigation to zero) outside of helping elemental strikes.
While on the same question, how does the elemental reduction from imperil stack with protection's spike shield?
As for killing monsters, until you are really strong that you can spread your attacks, it's safer to kill them one by one as mentioned. If you play slowly as I do (my turns/second is slow on this setup anyway so no point in rushing) you can spread a little bit such that you always target a stunned monster; in that case you are killing monsters in groups of two or three.
Try to kill celestials and sprites first, these are the guys that hit hardest and also have the least HP (however, the owners of the top celestials and sprites have cranked up their HP). The next priorities are elementals and humans, who also have low HP and strong magical attacks, and daimons who hit hard and have low HP, but at least you can parry them.
The other monsters are about the same so the order of targeting will be determined more by random factors (whoever is stunned or hurt). It's worthy to note that avions suck at everything (weak attacks and low HP) while undeads and dragons are strong at everything.
Save giants and arthropods until the very end, as they hit weakly and have high HP.
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Sep 29 2017, 23:36
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 29 2017, 23:23)  I saw decondelite and others talk about using imperil with 1H before. I trained imperil on all personas a little and experimented with it, but don't currently use it at all. How does it stack with penetrated armor? I was thinking it might either be redundant (capped at penetrated armor x3) or wouldn't add much further benefit (simply reducing mitigation to zero) outside of helping elemental strikes.
they stack indeed (additively, perhaps?) but on the practical side you won't see the combined effect unless you'll hit punch bags like SGs and above. in that case Imperil may help you save a bit of turns. but really not worth the hassle for the average mobs.
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Sep 30 2017, 03:08
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jacquelope
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Are you supposed to lose TWO stamina for failing a horse puzzle in Arena playthroughs?
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