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Trying to find a decent rapier, because I'm told that's ideally what you want to aim for for a 1h+shield setup, but having trouble finding anything around the right level--the ones in the bazaar are crap, and the ones in the WTS sub all seem to be either much higher (too high to soulfuse) or free but low quality. Anyone have suggestions on how I should handle gearing around level 150-160?

Make do with exquisite or some cheap ass magnificent. Try to look for stuff in FreeShop.

Trying to find a decent rapier, because I'm told that's ideally what you want to aim for for a 1h+shield setup, but having trouble finding anything around the right level--the ones in the bazaar are crap, and the ones in the WTS sub all seem to be either much higher (too high to soulfuse) or free but low quality. Anyone have suggestions on how I should handle gearing around level 150-160?

Use what you can at your level... Rapier, exquisite if you can't find anything better. Go for the best rapier that you can afford and use. Don't soulfuse it.

Trying to find a decent rapier, because I'm told that's ideally what you want to aim for for a 1h+shield setup, but having trouble finding anything around the right level--the ones in the bazaar are crap, and the ones in the WTS sub all seem to be either much higher (too high to soulfuse) or free but low quality. Anyone have suggestions on how I should handle gearing around level 150-160?

It is the worst part of the game and every novice came through it.

Sadly, but current balance of the game has that problem and there is very little you can do it (because most shop-keepers are high-level players and they are selling their drops that correlate their levels).

Just use the weapon you can afford and suits you best in your current level. Do not be shy to use any other weapon but rapier until you find one decent rapier - preferably Axe or Shortsword.

In my case right until level ~350 I have used Legendary Shortsword.
Then I accidentally dropped pretty bad Legendary Rapier and stick with it.
Then about level ~380 I have found in bazaar (yes, in bazaar) Legendary Rapier with ADB 42% and level 489 - I bought it, waited until I be level 389 and soulfused it.

In short - use whatever you can afford and find - occasionally check WTS-section for good rapier (and other equipment) and when you will find something good - buy it.
On your level, I think, Exquisite or low-tier Magnificent quality would be enough, Legendary is a bit too earlier.

btw, if you are looking for rapier, then your ultimate choice would be "Ethereal"-prefix (or Demonic/Hallowed are good too, but they are for special cases) and "of slaughter"-suffix, but once again - this is an ultimate choice, and until you will be high-level stick with whatever good you will find.

This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 17 2017, 12:40

btw, if you are looking for rapier, then your ultimate choice would be "Ethereal"-prefix

Not if he want to play 1H. Ethereal is something for DW player.

Thanks for the responses! Using an axe for now, so I'll stick with that but keep an eye out for a decent replacement.

Trying to find a decent rapier, because I'm told that's ideally what you want to aim for for a 1h+shield setup, but having trouble finding anything around the right level--the ones in the bazaar are crap, and the ones in the WTS sub all seem to be either much higher (too high to soulfuse) or free but low quality. Anyone have suggestions on how I should handle gearing around level 150-160?

No rapiers aren't the "ultimate" thing at your level. It is at a very high level because then the monsters have a high pysical mitigation.
In your case, a shortsword will do.

I do have stuff in my shop for players around your level, but it's currently closed until saturday.

Not if he want to play 1H. Ethereal is something for DW player.

agree,holy or dark would be better.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3713303
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Last Active 15th September 2017 - 22:47

:/ maybe i will wait

This post has been edited by karyl123: Sep 17 2017, 13:51

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Last Active 15th September 2017 - 22:47

:/ maybe i will wait

it's merely two days ago. however:

There are two iw services in wets apart for ariosty. They both seem good imo

try cirrux or sabregimp.

I've noticed that the overwhelming majority of equipment on the market is in the upper 300's to 500 region. Which mostly tells me that the game has a lot of players sitting around at max level, and the next largest group is people in the 300+ area working their way to cap.

As such, very little equipment of my level is on the market. This makes it hard to get an idea of what a fair price would be to sell equipment that is dropping from my grind, but which isn't useful to me. I'd imagine there are other players in the 200's who'd be interested in what I have, since they can't use the stuff that is in most shops. So while I'm at this level and getting gear drops, I may as well try to tap into this market.

So, here is what I have so far. Mostly superior and exquisite gear. Any advice on what is junk not worth bothering with, and what sort of price to expect for the not-so-junk?

This post has been edited by Cryosite: Sep 17 2017, 19:32

Does anybody know how much one level of Butcher adds to a weapon's ADB? I know Fatality for example adds 2 points of base to Critical Damage and Overpower adds 4 points to Counter-Parry, but can't find what it is for Butcher.

Does anybody know how much one level of Butcher adds to a weapon's ADB? I know Fatality for example adds 2 points of base to Critical Damage and Overpower adds 4 points to Counter-Parry, but can't find what it is for Butcher.

+2%. you'll have a final ADB of:

base_ADB * ( 1 + 0.02 * Butcher_level )


note that since it's referred to base value, every level adds the same amount.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 17 2017, 21:14

Alright, thanks!

I've noticed that the overwhelming majority of equipment on the market is in the upper 300's to 500 region. Which mostly tells me that the game has a lot of players sitting around at max level, and the next largest group is people in the 300+ area working their way to cap.

As such, very little equipment of my level is on the market. This makes it hard to get an idea of what a fair price would be to sell equipment that is dropping from my grind, but which isn't useful to me. I'd imagine there are other players in the 200's who'd be interested in what I have, since they can't use the stuff that is in most shops. So while I'm at this level and getting gear drops, I may as well try to tap into this market.

So, here is what I have so far. Mostly superior and exquisite gear. Any advice on what is junk not worth bothering with, and what sort of price to expect for the not-so-junk?

I'll buy everything useful you have on saturday when I reopen my WTS.

Cryo, yes I feel it is difficult to price low level items. Most items are priced accordingly to what medium level players may view an item. But you can see in auctions that a low level item can drive an item's value up. However auctions don't sell items worth less than 50k credits so it is hard to know what a weaker but useful low level item could be worth.

When you have a borderline useful/crap item, such as a high level undesirable legendary or low level weapon somewhat worth using, another way to get a value is to look at your bazaar sale value and base on that with a slight increase. Items resold in the bazaar get 5x added to their buy price, so you have up to a 5x factor to work with.

Butcher adds 2% exactly (and not some funky value like Swift Strike) but also truncates (not rounds) your attack damage. Lately I have been fiddling with the forge upgrade formula on the Wiki also, as well as Scremaz's forge optimizer spreadsheet. My interest is to be able to exactly regenerate the base values the game displays in the mouse hovering popup (especially since after you upgrade or IW, you lose access to the original base values).

So far I've found a few issues here and there. The issues are only with minor rounding but there's no one easy fix. Neither I nor Scremaz's spreadsheet seem to be able to reliably generate the exact original values in all cases. I was planning to bring this up much later, after I have more worthwhile pieces of equipment to test with (technically I could test with anything but it would be a waste to upgrade or IW any item I don't actually use).

This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Sep 17 2017, 23:30

So far I've found a few issues here and there. The issues are only with minor rounding but are multiple. Neither I nor Scremaz's spreadsheet seem to be able to reliably generate the exact original values in all cases.

actually i know how i could improve them. but the amount of datas needed would be quite big, and i'm not even sure it's actually an unic solution (univoc? univocal? whatever).

feel free to pm if you're interested to have a starting point. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Sorry for the shortage of links...

But which equip is better for me to use?

The Legendary Zircon Power Helmet of Protection that is linked in my signature; or

The Peerless Savage Power Helmet of Balance that was yesterday's armour lottery prize?

I'm low on kgp, so I only entered 100 tickets for the hell of it. I didn't actally expect to win (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

This post has been edited by The Original Zeo: Sep 17 2017, 23:35

Can someone explain the Percentile Range script to me? For instance, when an item like this Rapier has only the same number as its level (264) what does it mean? Its garbage? And when only some stats show percentages...What should I look for?Thanks.

which equip is better for me to use?

The Legendary Zircon Power Helmet of Protection that is linked in my signature; or

The Peerless Savage Power Helmet of Balance that was yesterday's armour lottery prize?

the peerless. savage prefix and more attack than the protection one.

Can someone explain the Percentile Range script to me? For instance, when an item like this Rapier has only the same number as its level (264) what does it mean? Its garbage? And when only some stats show percentages...What should I look for?Thanks.

percentile only calculates rolls referred to Legendary range. this basically means only legendaries and high-tier magnificents will be processed.

What buffs/consumables should I generally have up with a melee build (1h/shield)? Right now I'm keeping Regen, Protection, and all three Draughts up, and using health potions and cure for healing. Anything else that I should be using?