[X] My Assistant

Me :

Style : mainly 1h, my 2h is off... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
1h in my signature

Perks : ia3, VV

Item used : gems only

Debuff : none

Skill : VS only + spirit stance on

Turns : 4800-4900

Style: 1H+Shield Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
Perk: IA 3 (Haste, Spirit Shield and SoL)
Debuff: Imperil
Item: Health,Mana,Spirit Draughts.
Forge: Only weapon and shield almost forged lvl 5.
Turns: 6000+ (Around 1hour and 30mins)...

Should I switch to Mage build or change equipment?

This post has been edited by JJ1995: Jul 23 2018, 15:31

Style: Elec mage
Perk: IA 5, DD 1, VV, Eminent Elementalist, Evil Enchantress
Debuff: Imperil
Item: Draught(HP+MP+SP) + Potion (MP)
Magic score : 20029
Turns: ~2300

Style: Holy(5 Mystic),
Phase(5)

I didn't know 5 phase/Oak worked, I was aware only Katalox could go with 5 phase. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) How does it compare with prof gear?

Anyway, this is mine on regular day.
Gears in signature, items on summary, perks: IA4, Divine prof, Daemon Duality 1.
I can go down a minute on Fri/Sun.

Style: Holy Imperil, 4+1
Perk: IA 5 + Divine Warmage
Debuff: Imperil all
Item: Draughts, Potions
Forge: see signature
Turns: ~2700

Seems okayish for non-matching staff, mediocre forging and no DD perk at all.

So I'm not even able to do try DwD yet (and can't get past Nintendo on Eternal Darkness) but I'm seeing there's a massive difference in turns between melee and magic.

The thing is - number of turns is not equal to clear speed since 1H needs almost no attention/hotkeys and mage needs at least good to endgame equipment, multiple buffs and constant flow of restoratives.

Should I switch to Mage build or change equipment?

IMO you should spend some credits on equipments e.g. mag or leg rapier and power gears.
And try IA Protection instead of Haste. 1H doesn't need Haste...

This post has been edited by trick_NM: Jul 23 2018, 18:41

Here's my data:{
Style: Holy(4 Mag radiant (0-5 forged) 1 Charged, LHOH (10-40 forged),
Perk: IA 3 + Enigma Energizer + Prof + Daemon 1
Debuff: Imperil,
Item: HD + MD,
Turns: 2398,
}

I didn't know 5 phase/Oak worked, I was aware only Katalox could go with 5 phase. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) How does it compare with prof gear?

Actually, since SGs' holy mitigation is -1, I see no point to increase prof-factor to reduce mitigation.

However, after studying all your stats, I really start to wonder if my theory above is right……

Edit: Sorry I saw "Charged" as "Cotton" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by ArbiterErii: Jul 23 2018, 19:21

Actually, since SGs' holy mitigation is -1, I see no point to increase prof-factor to reduce mitigation.

However, after studying all your stats, I really start to wonder if my theory above is right……

Edit: Sorry I saw "Charged" as "Cotton" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

that's why mystic is unpopular (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
and the potency "Annihilator" so on

This post has been edited by cbn: Jul 23 2018, 23:49

Style: Holy - 5 phase (3 charged, 1 frugal, 1 mystic)
Perks: Everything useful + DD6
Debuffs: Imperil on normal enemies in the first 37 rounds, only on SGs from 38-150,
Items: round 0-111 mana draughts on cooldown, infusions only on enigma solved (around 2 on average), rounds 112-150 adds health draughts on cooldown, mana potions used <10, health potions used ~5 (using cure for when health potion is in cooldown, <5 cure per run usually)
Forge: Full
Turns: <1850 on normal days, <1750 on Sunday, between the two values on Friday,


5 phase is faster than 4 for both A Dance with Dragons and Eternal Darkness but, from my tests, not for End of Days.
Different is not big though.

Style: 1H+Shield Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
Perk: IA 3 (Haste, Spirit Shield and SoL)
Debuff: Imperil
Item: Health,Mana,Spirit Draughts.
Forge: Only weapon and shield almost forged lvl 5.
Turns: 6000+ (Around 1hour and 30mins)...

Should I switch to Mage build or change equipment?

At your level, with a bit of work, you should be able to make up to anywhere from 2m - 5m credits. Selling trophies, PAs, and bulk selling shitty equipment. Along with credits from arena clears.

And that budget is absolutely enough to improve all your equipment. I used to have 44% block. Spending over 1m or so on forging any half decent Leg force shield can bring that up by a lot (in my case, up to 60%). The difference is absolutely palpable. It turns DWD PFUDOR from "I can do it, but it takes hours and tons of healing and scrolls" to "I can YOLO most of this now, and with one or two scrolls at the end, YOLO that too".

If you don't have a lot of credits, go to Decondelites WTS. Check all your equipment, and improve on them. Most of the pieces there are 20k-50k. Cheap. If you have a lot of credits, skip that and go to his auction, and bid on some even better Mags and Legendaries. Once you have a decent set of legendary stuff, spend a little time forging them (especially your shield).

Like I said. The difference will be palpable. You'll be doing things you never did before. Also, for your auto-cast slots, IMO I would go for Protection, SS, and SoL. That's all you need. You can always cast haste if you're in a bind and need that small boost of survivability, or use a Scroll of the Avatar (which boosts survivability much more).

'LH"K"H' with 3 phase and 2cotton
the result shows that LHKH is not a good choice, it really sucks

omg I spell imperil 282 times (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by cbn: Jul 24 2018, 04:12

At your level, with a bit of work, you should be able to make up to anywhere from 2m - 5m credits. Selling trophies, PAs, and bulk selling shitty equipment. Along with credits from arena clears.

And that budget is absolutely enough to improve all your equipment. I used to have 44% block. Spending over 1m or so on forging any half decent Leg force shield can bring that up by a lot (in my case, up to 60%). The difference is absolutely palpable. It turns DWD PFUDOR from "I can do it, but it takes hours and tons of healing and scrolls" to "I can YOLO most of this now, and with one or two scrolls at the end, YOLO that too".

If you don't have a lot of credits, go to Decondelites WTS. Check all your equipment, and improve on them. Most of the pieces there are 20k-50k. Cheap. If you have a lot of credits, skip that and go to his auction, and bid on some even better Mags and Legendaries. Once you have a decent set of legendary stuff, spend a little time forging them (especially your shield).

Like I said. The difference will be palpable. You'll be doing things you never did before. Also, for your auto-cast slots, IMO I would go for Protection, SS, and SoL. That's all you need. You can always cast haste if you're in a bind and need that small boost of survivability, or use a Scroll of the Avatar (which boosts survivability much more).

thank you. Then i should try sell my equipment for auction and refine my equipment since i still only 44.1 block and 40.1 parry chances.

During last week I have received about 15 reports from you guys.

Results:
Almost everyone cast Imperil on SG.
# Only I cast MagNet……

Niten(No Imp): 8k
1h(Exquisite Rapier): 6k

1h+Power non-Slaughter: 4.4k; 4.8k
1h+Power Slaughter: 3.6k
DW+Savage Shadowdancer: 4.2k

Wind(LTRF, 4+1): 2.8k
Elec: 2.3k
Holy(3+2?): 2.4k
Holy(PTOH, 4+1): 2.7k
Holy(Mag Radiant 4+1): 2.4k
Holy(5+0,Mystic): 2.3k
Holy(LHKH,3+2): 2.6k
Dark(4+1): 2.3k

Holy(5+0,3 Charged, Maxed): 1.8k
Dark(4+1, Maxed): 1.9k

The survey can lead to no conclusion to melee due to lack of data. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
For mage, with matching gears(especially staff), most players can reach 2.3-2.4k. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Top-tier Archmage on holy & dark can further achieve 1.8-1.9k. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you guys (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by ArbiterErii: Jul 28 2018, 19:28

Dark Mage:
1.956 turns - Sunday (no dark bonus)
stats (4 radiants, even though the set is called 3 rad. I didn't rename my set yet):


Yeah, I know... I should quit. There is little left to improve.

Level 343

Style: 1H (3 Legendary Power)
Perk: None
Debuff: None
Item: None
Forge: Rapier (5)

7,567 turns 1:21:18 (1.551 t/s)

Despite my crap equipment I am getting slightly stronger, barely. More notable though is that a moderate increase in my internet speed (and bill, from same ISP) resulted in over a 50% boost to turns/second to the alt domain, I didn't expect such a difference.

I forgot to update my quickbinds, so I should be able to do better next time. I wonder if other online games such as fighting games would also perform better with higher bandwidth? There's no way their lag can improve by 50%, but there might be a frame or two of improvement.

Level 349

7,454 turns 1:14:12 (1.674 t/s)

Nothing changed except last time I hadn't played in a very long time so I was in a bit better shape today. I'm about to upgrade my equipment massively which is why I bothered to record what will hopefully be my last pathetic DwD struggle.

First try lvl 300

7,061 turns 1:58:26 (0.994 t/s)

1h rapier, imperil on SG + vital strike (sometimes)
No OFC