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I should have taken a screenshot of my run today. I got a little below 2200. But with a t / s of 2.1 my times are around 15 minutes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

How are you so fast? I take around 30 minutes, lol

How are you so fast? I take around 30 minutes, lol

It's normal. Not fast.

2200-2300 turns @ 2.1-2.2 t/s = 15-17 minutes.
2200-2300 turns @ 2.8-3.1 t/s = 12-14 minutes.

(connection, style and technique matters)

Fast are those guys that can do it in less than 10 minutes.

Can you post your number of turns and t/s? Stats and equipment?

It's normal. Not fast.

2200-2300 turns @ 2.1-2.2 t/s = 15-17 minutes.
2200-2300 turns @ 2.8-3.1 t/s = 12-14 minutes.

(connection, style and technique matters)

Fast are those guys that can do it in less than 10 minutes.

Can you post your number of turns and t/s? Stats and equipment?

I'll have to wait till tmrw, I already did my DWD, but my equipment isn't very good, I'm waiting for....something...before I invest fully into it.
Equipment:

Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall
Legendary Frugal Phase Cap of Heimdall
Legendary Jade Phase Robe of Heimdall
Legendary Ruby Phase Gloves of Heimdall
Legendary Amber Phase Pants of Heimdall
Legendary Cobalt Phase Shoes of Heimdall

I'll have to wait till tmrw, I already did my DWD, but my equipment isn't very good, I'm waiting for....something...before I invest fully into it.

I see, but until that "something" arrives at least change your staff for a cheap but recent one. It's most likely the reason why you don't get better times, I mean it's ancient, and the gap between its level and yours is huge. IW must be P5S4 or P5A4 if you don't plan to play iw or fest.

I have heard that 5 phase or 4+1 is what work the best for DwD (I'm using 3+2 and plan to change to 4+1 for DwD and ED) But I still need to test it myself, so I won't comment on that.

At a glance, that's what came to mind. I hope that I'm not overlooking something.

This post has been edited by Xythy: Apr 28 2019, 05:26

this was 6 levels ago, then I stopped using melee

not that good t/s but it's ok, I guess

Now these are from today and yesterday =3



This post has been edited by lololo16: Apr 28 2019, 05:31

Is there any way to reduce the resist chance of imperil for 1h heavy build?
I found I have been wasting a lot of mana and overcharges in my run...I tried suffused aether enchantment it significantly improved the speed of clearing DwD (by about 10%). If only I can afford to do that everyday...

Yes, for a melee Aether Shard provides best result in reducing number of failed debuffs (greatly decreases number of Evaded debuffs; by ~40-45% = 25-30 debuffs). Also removes miss chance if your hit chance < 100%.
Yes, +10% Deprecating proficiency Hath perk (1000 Hath) will help a little (slightly lows number of resisted spells; by ~5% = 5-20 resisted debuffs). Note. 1 use = 1-3 debuffs.

But before that try to increase your wisdom to reach 100-101% magic hit chance (=20-21% resist).
If your hit chance is < 100% you will also miss when using debuffs. Even with 99.9% you may miss ~15 debuffs.


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I should have taken a screenshot of my run today. I got a little below 2200. But with a t / s of 2.1 my times are around 15 minutes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

With your non-Imperil?


This post has been edited by tox01: Apr 28 2019, 06:19

With your non-Imperil?

Non-imperil DwD? Nope. I'm not a masochist. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I imperil SG's and proceed to the attack, I don't care if normal monsters resist/evade the debuff.

I only use non-imperil on regular (no school girls) arenas.

This post has been edited by Xythy: Apr 28 2019, 06:40

Non-imperil DwD? Nope. I'm not a masochist. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I imperil SG's and proceed to the attack, I don't care if normal monsters resist/evade the debuff.

I only use non-imperil on regular (no school girls) arenas.

Yes, continue to Imperil bosses (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I was meaning before 1st boss and trying to Imperil only bosses (for example if they are clustered in the first 3 positions - cast only 1 Imperil).

Progress. ^^
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My rapier got IW'd and started using imperil! Shaved off like 20 minutes and 4k turns.

This is my current state, the problem is the low turn per second.

Also haven't been able to get much stronger with the mjolnir style.

Yes, continue to Imperil bosses (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I was meaning before 1st boss and trying to Imperil only bosses (for example if they are clustered in the first 3 positions - cast only 1 Imperil).

Before sg's start to appear I don't use imperil, I tested it already and with my current set the turn count doesn't change much, and not casting imperil is more convenient.

I have heard that 5 phase or 4+1 is what work the best for DwD (I'm using 3+2 and plan to change to 4+1 for DwD and ED) But I still need to test it myself, so I won't comment on that.

At least for Holy 5 phase is consistently better (a lot better if the phase is radiant).

Btw, non-imperil holy is still faster than any melee style for DwD.

At least for Holy 5 phase is consistently better (a lot better if the phase is radiant).

In fact I learned about this while using the search function on the experts thread... And you were the one mentioning it iirc. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Btw, non-imperil holy is still faster than any melee style for DwD.

I guess that's true. But to pull that off you need to be reasonably strong (completely not my case). My 15 minutes runs can turn into 25+ minutes, is just a guess since I haven't tried it nor did any calculations (just the feel I got when for some rounds I tried to kill the sg's without using imperil). That's why I said "I'm not a masochist". It wasn't my intention to make it sound like it was something inviable or absurd.

This post has been edited by Xythy: Apr 28 2019, 20:40

In fact I learned about this while using the search function on the experts thread... And you were the one mentioning it iirc. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Other users tried that much earlier than my reports, I just went and confirmed it as soon as I had 5 phase decently upgraded.

I guess that's true. But to pull that off you need to be reasonably strong (completely not my case). My 15 minutes runs can turn into 25+ minutes, is just a guess since I haven't tried it nor did any calculations (just the feel I got when for some rounds I tried to kill the sg's without using imperil). That's why I said "I'm not a masochist". It wasn't my intention to make it sound like it was something inviable or absurd.

Fun fact, when I switched to mage I had 0 Deprecating prof so I pretty much couldn't use imperil (Oak doesn't give any prof bonus, duration was abysmal, mana cost was absurd) so while I farmed the prof I used non-imperil for DwD.
The first time I maged in DwD my record went done from 25m50s to 23m05s, and it was a setup which was a lot less optimized than my 1H setup.
Even now my biggest time saving for DwD runs were switching from mage and start casting imperil.
This is the list (day are in DD/MM/YYYY format).


Edit: The _drain is a test where I put the drain spell in the rotation.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Apr 28 2019, 23:08

Other users tried that much earlier than my reports, I just went and confirmed it as soon as I had 5 phase decently upgraded.

I guess we owe a lot to those players for their dedication and testing. But people like you that confirm/shares the information are also important.

Fun fact, when I switched to mage I had 0 Deprecating prof so I pretty much couldn't use imperil (Oak doesn't give any prof bonus, duration was abysmal, mana cost was absurd) so while I farmed the prof I used non-imperil for DwD.
The first time I maged in DwD my record went done from 25m50s to 23m05s, and it was a setup which was a lot less optimized than my 1H setup.
Even now my biggest time saving for DwD runs were switching from mage and start casting imperil.
This is the list (day are in DD/MM/YYYY format).

23m05s non-imperil with a not-so-optimized set? Ooh~ our definition of "optimization" differs or your average t / s is really high (maybe both).

I would like to try doing the same just to know how much my time gets rekt... but I'll refrain. Anyways, thanks for sharing your personal experience and records, btw those are really impressive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

23m05s non-imperil with a not-so-optimized set? Ooh~ our definition of "optimization" differs or your average t / s is really high (maybe both).

Not optimized compared to now, I built that set over 4-6 months so it wasn't bad by any means, just a little worse than the 1H one (which had years of upgrades).
Anyway, 3.84 t/s at that time, when 4 t/s was possible (if I had the VDSL2 line I have today it would be probably a little bit higher).

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Oic~ I thought you would say something like that.

full phase, dark day, no infusions, imperil on schoolgirls only

1,947 turns 0:11:30 (2.822 t/s)

:3

Holy mage, equip posted earlier (outdated equips), pfudor, imperil everything until sg show up then imperil sg only.



This post has been edited by SPoison: Apr 29 2019, 02:40