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Apr 27 2019, 07:01
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mustardpie
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 27 2019, 03:16)  Dude, "have you ever heard of our lord and savior Imperil?" >330 and you haven't hollowforged your weapon? Should see an IW-er. I think there's one who can give you a free hollowforge at your level.
Actually haven't, only been back less than a week after a few years hiatus. What's the tactic with imperil? Does it not eat through mana on a 1h heavy build?
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Apr 27 2019, 07:07
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tox01
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Apr 27 2019, 07:01)  Actually haven't, only been back less than a week after a few years hiatus.
What's the tactic with imperil? Does it not eat through mana on a 1h heavy build?
Imperil bosses to kill faster. Don't forget to learn and slot relative abilities (Faster and Better Imperil). If you can survive, try not to use Haste. Or at least don't use it in the earlier rounds...
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Apr 27 2019, 07:14
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mustardpie
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Gotcha, thanks.
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Apr 27 2019, 07:22
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feathered
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Apr 27 2019, 07:01)  What's the tactic with imperil? Does it not eat through mana on a 1h heavy build?
At first, you may feel only bosses need to be imperiled. But later on, you'll think imperil is a good opener for standard mobs. In addition toward SGs, I use one cast of imperil upon mobs each round. It save me one to three turns compared to unimperiled mobs. The spell drain matched regeneration from mana draughts. Given that they're cheap, I don't mind burning through my stock. I get to grind deprecating proficiency as a bonus too!
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Apr 27 2019, 07:44
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Drksrpnt
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I feel like I'm doing something wrong, I got more than 4.3k turns today (just under half an hour). Maybe I'm not using Frenzied Blows or OFC often enough. I should have taken a screenshot.
Using Club/Rapier btw.
This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: Apr 27 2019, 07:44
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Apr 27 2019, 08:54
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Apr 27 2019, 05:01)  Actually haven't, only been back less than a week after a few years hiatus.
What's the tactic with imperil? Does it not eat through mana on a 1h heavy build?
With proper preparation (feathers) and training, I am able to cast 4-5 depr spells per round and a few supportive spells here and there as 1H heavy, without having any mana issue. At worst, I may need to have mana draughts on at all times near the end of PFFEST, due to frequent healing. At your level, assuming a full Magnificent set and only IA3, you may not have things as confomrtable as I have, so you may need to use one mana potion here and there if you use more than 2 depr spells per round and need to heal frequently. So no, mana consumption is actually not a problem for 1H... if you do the effort of lowering your Interference with Featherweight Shards. I'll keep repeating again and again that feathers do solve huge issues for 1H players, mana consumption being one of them.
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Apr 27 2019, 22:39
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Nobody2098
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 27 2019, 01:54)  With proper preparation (feathers) and training, I am able to cast 4-5 depr spells per round and a few supportive spells here and there as 1H heavy, without having any mana issue. At worst, I may need to have mana draughts on at all times near the end of PFFEST, due to frequent healing.
At your level, assuming a full Magnificent set and only IA3, you may not have things as confomrtable as I have, so you may need to use one mana potion here and there if you use more than 2 depr spells per round and need to heal frequently.
So no, mana consumption is actually not a problem for 1H... if you do the effort of lowering your Interference with Featherweight Shards. I'll keep repeating again and again that feathers do solve huge issues for 1H players, mana consumption being one of them.
Is there any way to reduce the resist chance of imperil for 1h heavy build? I found I have been wasting a lot of mana and overcharges in my run...I tried suffused aether enchantment it significantly improved the speed of clearing DwD (by about 10%). If only I can afford to do that everyday...
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Apr 27 2019, 22:54
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Apr 27 2019, 06:44)  I feel like I'm doing something wrong, I got more than 4.3k turns today (just under half an hour). Maybe I'm not using Frenzied Blows or OFC often enough. I should have taken a screenshot.
Using Club/Rapier btw.
For DWD? Spirit stance OFC as many rounds as you can, open rounds with imperil + FB otherwise. My testing indicates it makes no noticeable difference whether you use imperil on all monsters or only schoolgirls, and it actually makes it slightly slower activating spirit stance for FBs. Lololo can probably give more refined instructions if you can talk about what you're doing currently QUOTE(Nobody2098 @ Apr 27 2019, 21:39)  Is there any way to reduce the resist chance of imperil for 1h heavy build? I found I have been wasting a lot of mana and overcharges in my run...I tried suffused aether enchantment it significantly improved the speed of clearing DwD (by about 10%). If only I can afford to do that everyday...
Deprecating prof perk helps This post has been edited by lestion: Apr 27 2019, 22:55
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Apr 28 2019, 03:44
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-vincento-
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2268 turns Holy set. Holy day Not too bad, not too good either. This post has been edited by -vincento-: Apr 28 2019, 04:01
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Apr 28 2019, 03:57
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Apr 27 2019, 20:44)  2268 turns Holy set. Not too bad, not too good either.
you reached my average with 46 levels below me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by yami_zetsu: Apr 28 2019, 03:57
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Apr 28 2019, 04:12
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Xythy
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Apr 27 2019, 19:44)  2268 turns Holy set. Holy day Not too bad, not too good either.  I should have taken a screenshot of my run today. I got a little below 2200. But with a t / s of 2.1 my times are around 15 minutes. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) This post has been edited by Xythy: Apr 28 2019, 04:15
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Apr 28 2019, 04:26
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SPoison
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Apr 27 2019, 19:12)  I should have taken a screenshot of my run today. I got a little below 2200. But with a t / s of 2.1 my times are around 15 minutes. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) How are you so fast? I take around 30 minutes, lol
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Apr 28 2019, 04:42
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Xythy
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Apr 27 2019, 20:26)  How are you so fast? I take around 30 minutes, lol
It's normal. Not fast. 2200-2300 turns @ 2.1-2.2 t/s = 15-17 minutes. 2200-2300 turns @ 2.8-3.1 t/s = 12-14 minutes. (connection, style and technique matters) Fast are those guys that can do it in less than 10 minutes. Can you post your number of turns and t/s? Stats and equipment?
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Apr 28 2019, 05:23
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Xythy
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Apr 27 2019, 20:47)  I'll have to wait till tmrw, I already did my DWD, but my equipment isn't very good, I'm waiting for....something...before I invest fully into it.
I see, but until that "something" arrives at least change your staff for a cheap but recent one. It's most likely the reason why you don't get better times, I mean it's ancient, and the gap between its level and yours is huge. IW must be P5S4 or P5A4 if you don't plan to play iw or fest. I have heard that 5 phase or 4+1 is what work the best for DwD (I'm using 3+2 and plan to change to 4+1 for DwD and ED) But I still need to test it myself, so I won't comment on that. At a glance, that's what came to mind. I hope that I'm not overlooking something. This post has been edited by Xythy: Apr 28 2019, 05:26
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Apr 28 2019, 05:29
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lololo16
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this was 6 levels ago, then I stopped using melee QUOTE(lololo16 @ Mar 10 2019, 23:20)  not that good t/s but it's ok, I guess  Now these are from today and yesterday =3 This post has been edited by lololo16: Apr 28 2019, 05:31
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Apr 28 2019, 06:18
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tox01
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QUOTE(Nobody2098 @ Apr 27 2019, 22:39)  Is there any way to reduce the resist chance of imperil for 1h heavy build? I found I have been wasting a lot of mana and overcharges in my run...I tried suffused aether enchantment it significantly improved the speed of clearing DwD (by about 10%). If only I can afford to do that everyday...
Yes, for a melee Aether Shard provides best result in reducing number of failed debuffs (greatly decreases number of Evaded debuffs; by ~40-45% = 25-30 debuffs). Also removes miss chance if your hit chance < 100%. Yes, +10% Deprecating proficiency Hath perk (1000 Hath) will help a little (slightly lows number of resisted spells; by ~5% = 5-20 resisted debuffs). Note. 1 use = 1-3 debuffs. But before that try to increase your wisdom to reach 100-101% magic hit chance (=20-21% resist). If your hit chance is < 100% you will also miss when using debuffs. Even with 99.9% you may miss ~15 debuffs. ===== ===== QUOTE(Xythy @ Apr 28 2019, 04:12)  I should have taken a screenshot of my run today. I got a little below 2200. But with a t / s of 2.1 my times are around 15 minutes. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) With your non-Imperil? This post has been edited by tox01: Apr 28 2019, 06:19
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Apr 28 2019, 06:40
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Xythy
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Apr 27 2019, 22:18)  With your non-Imperil?
Non-imperil DwD? Nope. I'm not a masochist. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) I imperil SG's and proceed to the attack, I don't care if normal monsters resist/evade the debuff. I only use non-imperil on regular (no school girls) arenas. This post has been edited by Xythy: Apr 28 2019, 06:40
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Apr 28 2019, 06:44
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tox01
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Apr 28 2019, 06:40)  Non-imperil DwD? Nope. I'm not a masochist. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) I imperil SG's and proceed to the attack, I don't care if normal monsters resist/evade the debuff. I only use non-imperil on regular (no school girls) arenas. Yes, continue to Imperil bosses (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I was meaning before 1st boss and trying to Imperil only bosses (for example if they are clustered in the first 3 positions - cast only 1 Imperil).
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