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some random equips as listed in my sig (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

DwD
7,593 turns 0:39:55 (3.170 t/s)
I guess my gauntlet helped me achieve sub40 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

looking forward to walking through grindfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Are you going non-imperil?

some random equips as listed in my sig (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

DwD
7,593 turns 0:39:55 (3.170 t/s)
I guess my gauntlet helped me achieve sub40 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

looking forward to walking through grindfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Back when I still used 1h heavy my equipment was trash compared to yours, 2.1-2.3 t/s, each piece forged only to 5. Still, clearing PFDwD in less than 30 minutes was possible. I think that maybe you are doing something wrong.

Back when I still used 1h heavy my equipment was trash compared to yours, 2.1-2.3 t/s, each piece forged only to 5. Still, clearing PFDwD in less than 30 minutes was possible. I think that maybe you are doing something wrong.

Yeah, seems like either not using vital strike or imperil (or possibly even both?).

Lv. 361, Dark Day...
Result

its really hard to break the 3.5k turns barrier... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Yeah, seems like either not using vital strike or imperil (or possibly even both?).

Yeah I've only ever had >5k turns when I was going non-imperil non-VS super monkey mode just hover.
And even that was with complete crap gear compared to what he's using.

Actually found that post:

Tried to go full no-brain-monkey-mode.
No infusions, no vital strike, no imperil. Just SS and the occasional heal
And my regular 1h equips.
7,655 turns 0:55:56 (2.281 t/s)

Not that bad, considering I was watching youtube nearly the entire time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's 62 turns more than him....
With a magnificent rapier, legendary kite shield, magnificent protection helmet, magnificent slaughter armor, magnificent slaughter gauntlets, legendary warding boots and legendary protection boots.
None savage, no forging on armors, shield with 25 forge on block 5 on others, rapier 25 on parry 5 on others.
So basically only 5 total forge on ADB
had Juggernaut on only 1 of my armor slots (I think leggings....) at 4 or 5, don't remember.
Rapier did have but5+fat4
Shield had random IW10, one armor slot had random IW7 and that's it. so 3/5 armors had no IW at all

So I think even if he's just going full hover no imperil/VS, there's still something wrong.

The man has peerless gear, savage armors, high ADB, forging, Jug 23, etc.

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Mar 18 2019, 23:12

Yeah I've only ever had >5k turns when I was going non-imperil non-VS super monkey mode just hover.
And even that was with complete crap gear compared to what he's using.

Actually found that post:
That's 62 turns more than him....
With a magnificent rapier, legendary kite shield, magnificent protection helmet, magnificent slaughter armor, magnificent slaughter gauntlets, legendary warding boots and legendary protection boots.
None savage, no forging on armors, shield with 25 forge on block 5 on others, rapier 25 on parry 5 on others.
So basically only 5 total forge on ADB
had Juggernaut on only 1 of my armor slots (I think leggings....) at 4 or 5, don't remember.
Rapier did have but5+fat4
Shield had random IW10, one armor slot had random IW7 and that's it. so 3/5 armors had no IW at all

So I think even if he's just going full hover no imperil/VS, there's still something wrong.

The man has peerless gear, savage armors, high ADB, forging, Jug 23, etc.

Well, I'd say a heavy shinning block is no better than an agile monkey (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I can, however, do work while touring unimaginative monster zoo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

For the turn differences, I think it has something to do with the levels as well, at lower levels, it is faster to clear a level, even though you didn't have the shinning impenetrable steel covers.

Oh and I'm still using haste and often shadow veil, so it might be that. I'll probably drop them off after I upgrade my armor and rapier.

At least I'm slowly improving, kinda. At the beginning of the year, I had to fight through it in no less than 2 hours with cautions and now I can pretty much breeze through it. Ok, maybe not breeze through, but clumsily walk through it.

Thanks for everyone who point this out though, I don't normally track stats. I'll try out some different combinations when I have time.

Well, I'd say a heavy shinning block is no better than an agile monkey (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I can, however, do work while touring unimaginative monster zoo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

For the turn differences, I think it has something to do with the levels as well, at lower levels, it is faster to clear a level, even though you didn't have the shinning impenetrable steel covers.

Oh and I'm still using haste and often shadow veil, so it might be that. I'll probably drop them off after I upgrade my armor and rapier.

At least I'm slowly improving, kinda. At the beginning of the year, I had to fight through it in no less than 2 hours with cautions and now I can pretty much breeze through it. Ok, maybe not breeze through, but clumsily walk through it.

Thanks for everyone who point this out though, I don't normally track stats. I'll try out some different combinations when I have time.

Mmmm I still think there's something weird.
I was using haste as well (only dropped it after lvl 400).
And that was at lvl ~385-395 I forget exactly where, but... That's pretty close to your level.
Can't be enough to undo fucking forges/peerless/savage/jug23 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) SURELY.

Ok so tried 2 runs (woke up before Dawn and hadn't done DwD before going to bed).
(both non-bonus days, no infusions, no enchants. Regular imperil run)

First run:
3 Phase (no radiant) + 2 Cotton (no charged)


15,455 Magic Score
0.936 Proficiency Factor

Second run:
4 Phase (1 radiant) + 1 Cotton (no charged)


17,820 Magic Score
0.681 Proficiency Factor

(the lower t/s on the second run is cause the alt site started lagging like a bitch after round ~80 or so)


Still.... Fewer imperil casts, less dmg taken, more dmg done, fewer turns......
I don't see how 2 cotton could possibly be better?
Unless I guess if they are both charged? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Mar 19 2019, 03:43

Oh and I'm still using haste and often shadow veil, so it might be that. I'll probably drop them off after I upgrade my armor and rapier.

With your current gear & forging I feel like you absolutely should drop haste & sveil asap, and you should see a huge improvement. Your rapier's a little weaker than it could be, but your gear should easily drop you to the 5-6k turn range, if not pushing into the 4k area...

And that was at lvl ~385-395 I forget exactly where, but... That's pretty close to your level.
Can't be enough to undo fucking forges/peerless/savage/jug23 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) SURELY.

Hmm, could it possible be the fire prefix? Seems like it'll be pretty bad for DwD. Could have other factors too ofc.

Mmmm I still think there's something weird.
I was using haste as well (only dropped it after lvl 400).
And that was at lvl ~385-395 I forget exactly where, but... That's pretty close to your level.
Can't be enough to undo fucking forges/peerless/savage/jug23 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) SURELY.

Which is weirder, the turn count or the time taken?

Maybe it has something to do with SS, I'll keep it perma tomorrow.

6,212 turns 0:33:40 (3.075 t/s)
imperiled everything from 0-46, 77-93, 113 onward just SG.
it's too much work for me to imperil everything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
still need to do more tests...

maybe rapier is a very big factor, still waiting for a decent one or peerl to appear.

Which is weirder, the turn count or the time taken?

Maybe it has something to do with SS, I'll keep it perma tomorrow.

6,212 turns 0:33:40 (3.075 t/s)
imperiled everything from 0-46, 77-93, 113 onward just SG.
it's too much work for me to imperil everything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
still need to do more tests...

maybe rapier is a very big factor, still waiting for a decent one or peerl to appear.

Replied to PM!

Also, your rapier is fine. Or, at least, it is not that big of a factor to reduce your turn count by THAT much.
We have basically around the same attack base dmg (with my newish 1h set), you have significantly higher defenses and a RIDICULOUSLY higher crit than me.

And my imperil run is 3,914 turns.

Replied to PM!

Also, your rapier is fine. Or, at least, it is not that big of a factor to reduce your turn count by THAT much.
We have basically around the same attack base dmg (with my newish 1h set), you have significantly higher defenses and a RIDICULOUSLY higher crit than me.

And my imperil run is 3,914 turns.

Let me try again tonight and see if I'm getting closer to a reasonable turn count.
You forged quite a lot too and our stats are pretty close, except my defense are slightly higher...
What, no, it's barely 3% more crit and 10% more damage...

I'll apply to your PM tonight too

Seriously, drop sveil & haste! look at your stats at the end of a run and see what your normal count is like, compared to counters

Let me try again tonight and see if I'm getting closer to a reasonable turn count.
You forged quite a lot too and our stats are pretty close, except my defense are slightly higher...
What, no, it's barely 3% more crit and 10% more damage...

I'll apply to your PM tonight too

Oh shit right, I was looking at magical crit LUL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yeah, try a run without SV/Haste
And with heartseeker (if you weren't using it, I wasn't sure if you didn't copy it on purpose or by accident).
And I think you'll have no probs keeping up spirit stance as well.

And while the rapier is fully forged, I also did runs with a minimum forge magnificent rapier (25 on parry, 5 on others) with regular imperil/vital strike at 4,992 turns. And that's with much worse armor too (only 2 pieces minimally forged)

Which is weirder, the turn count or the time taken?

Maybe it has something to do with SS, I'll keep it perma tomorrow.

6,212 turns 0:33:40 (3.075 t/s)
imperiled everything from 0-46, 77-93, 113 onward just SG.
it's too much work for me to imperil everything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
still need to do more tests...

maybe rapier is a very big factor, still waiting for a decent one or peerl to appear.

man I just chcked your equip and holy shit. There's no way you need haste and veil with your forges. I have 8k attack, armor forged 5-15 and I can go at ~2.9 t/s without using spark, but I always end up at 4.5-4.7k turns.
You can drop imperil, but that will cost you several minutes of clear time. From my experience with rapier you don't need to imperil SG, because you can just hit them when waiting for stun for vital, but that requires attention too. If you don't imperil or vital, you'll just have to live with 35-40 min clear time.

With cold mage build
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With cold mage build

Hey Insania!
If you wanna reduce your turn count by 113, forget the draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Also you are taking a looot of dmg, how are your armors/stats?
I had about the same turn count going non-imperil DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Hey Insania!
If you wanna reduce your turn count by 113, forget the draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Also you are taking a looot of dmg, how are your armors/stats?
I had about the same turn count going non-imperil DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yep, I take alot of damage. Have to cure 1-3 times on the higher rounds.

(IMG:[i63.tinypic.com] http://i63.tinypic.com/2cymfc0.jpg)

Bonuuuuuuuuus day!
Infusions, enchants, the whole shebang!


So close to sub 2400 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yep, I take alot of damage. Have to cure 1-3 times on the higher rounds.

Yeah, soulfusing some of those armors would def help in that regard!