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Mar 15 2019, 05:17
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Mar 15 2019, 12:14)  though considering some of you guys are in your early 400 and i already have DD5 i should be doing better, like, under 2000 turns
To be fair, I have DD2 and also your staff MDB and EDB are not that good. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Did you use aether? Also, imperil or non-imperil?
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Mar 15 2019, 05:24
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 14 2019, 22:17)  To be fair, I have DD2 and also your staff MDB and EDB are not that good. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Did you use aether? Also, imperil or non-imperil? i'm non imperil for regulars, but i do use it on schoolgirls, and not aether, why should it matter? mana conservation is no problem
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Mar 15 2019, 06:59
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Mar 15 2019, 12:24)  i'm non imperil for regulars, but i do use it on schoolgirls, and not aether, why should it matter? mana conservation is no problem
Gives +10% mana conservation bonus and a +50% magic accuracy bonus. I assume it helps?
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Mar 15 2019, 07:02
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xesxesgnik
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If he's got over 200% magic accuracy without the shard, then it doesn't really help.
I don't find it too important for SG either, but I find it quite useful for normal arenas. Not for the accuracy, but for the conservation because I need to do shitload of cure lol.
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Mar 15 2019, 07:23
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 15 2019, 14:02)  If he's got over 200% magic accuracy without the shard, then it doesn't really help.
I don't find it too important for SG either, but I find it quite useful for normal arenas. Not for the accuracy, but for the conservation because I need to do shitload of cure lol.
Yeah, the conservation does help (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 16 2019, 03:06
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KamuiSeph
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Tried a run without infusions (also using the new mouse wheel up to heal down to drink mana thing, so a bit slow and some turns wasted healing instead of manaing and vice-versa (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)) Non-bonus day, no infusions: 
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Mar 17 2019, 17:53
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mouisaac
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DwD 7,146 turns 0:43:52 (2.715 t/s) manage to squeeze in 3 infusion duration :3
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Mar 17 2019, 18:21
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KamuiSeph
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Tried a (mostly) non-imperil run. Non bonus day, no aether, no infusions. Also swapped out radiant gloves for prof cotton (0.931 prof factor atm)  QUOTE(mouisaac @ Mar 18 2019, 00:53)  DwD 7,146 turns 0:43:52 (2.715 t/s) manage to squeeze in 3 infusion duration :3
Holy shit. What equip are you using? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) That is.... Awful (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Mar 18 2019, 07:12
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Xythy
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Mar 17 2019, 22:18)  some random equips as listed in my sig (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) DwD 7,593 turns 0:39:55 (3.170 t/s) I guess my gauntlet helped me achieve sub40 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) looking forward to walking through grindfest (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Back when I still used 1h heavy my equipment was trash compared to yours, 2.1-2.3 t/s, each piece forged only to 5. Still, clearing PFDwD in less than 30 minutes was possible. I think that maybe you are doing something wrong.
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Mar 18 2019, 07:26
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magiclamp
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QUOTE(Xythy @ Mar 18 2019, 00:12)  Back when I still used 1h heavy my equipment was trash compared to yours, 2.1-2.3 t/s, each piece forged only to 5. Still, clearing PFDwD in less than 30 minutes was possible. I think that maybe you are doing something wrong.
Yeah, seems like either not using vital strike or imperil (or possibly even both?).
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Mar 18 2019, 07:52
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Greshnik
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Lv. 361, Dark Day... Result  its really hard to break the 3.5k turns barrier... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Mar 18 2019, 23:00
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Mar 18 2019, 14:26)  Yeah, seems like either not using vital strike or imperil (or possibly even both?).
Yeah I've only ever had >5k turns when I was going non-imperil non-VS super monkey mode just hover. And even that was with complete crap gear compared to what he's using. Actually found that post: QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 22 2019, 11:02)  Tried to go full no-brain-monkey-mode. No infusions, no vital strike, no imperil. Just SS and the occasional heal And my regular 1h equips. 7,655 turns 0:55:56 (2.281 t/s) Not that bad, considering I was watching youtube nearly the entire time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That's 62 turns more than him.... With a magnificent rapier, legendary kite shield, magnificent protection helmet, magnificent slaughter armor, magnificent slaughter gauntlets, legendary warding boots and legendary protection boots. None savage, no forging on armors, shield with 25 forge on block 5 on others, rapier 25 on parry 5 on others. So basically only 5 total forge on ADBhad Juggernaut on only 1 of my armor slots (I think leggings....) at 4 or 5, don't remember. Rapier did have but5+fat4 Shield had random IW10, one armor slot had random IW7 and that's it. so 3/5 armors had no IW at all So I think even if he's just going full hover no imperil/VS, there's still something wrong. The man has peerless gear, savage armors, high ADB, forging, Jug 23, etc. This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Mar 18 2019, 23:12
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Mar 19 2019, 00:10
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mouisaac
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 18 2019, 17:00)  Yeah I've only ever had >5k turns when I was going non-imperil non-VS super monkey mode just hover. And even that was with complete crap gear compared to what he's using.
Actually found that post: That's 62 turns more than him.... With a magnificent rapier, legendary kite shield, magnificent protection helmet, magnificent slaughter armor, magnificent slaughter gauntlets, legendary warding boots and legendary protection boots. None savage, no forging on armors, shield with 25 forge on block 5 on others, rapier 25 on parry 5 on others. So basically only 5 total forge on ADB had Juggernaut on only 1 of my armor slots (I think leggings....) at 4 or 5, don't remember. Rapier did have but5+fat4 Shield had random IW10, one armor slot had random IW7 and that's it. so 3/5 armors had no IW at all
So I think even if he's just going full hover no imperil/VS, there's still something wrong.
The man has peerless gear, savage armors, high ADB, forging, Jug 23, etc.
Well, I'd say a heavy shinning block is no better than an agile monkey (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I can, however, do work while touring unimaginative monster zoo. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) For the turn differences, I think it has something to do with the levels as well, at lower levels, it is faster to clear a level, even though you didn't have the shinning impenetrable steel covers. Oh and I'm still using haste and often shadow veil, so it might be that. I'll probably drop them off after I upgrade my armor and rapier. At least I'm slowly improving, kinda. At the beginning of the year, I had to fight through it in no less than 2 hours with cautions and now I can pretty much breeze through it. Ok, maybe not breeze through, but clumsily walk through it. Thanks for everyone who point this out though, I don't normally track stats. I'll try out some different combinations when I have time.
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Mar 19 2019, 00:23
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Mar 19 2019, 07:10)  Well, I'd say a heavy shinning block is no better than an agile monkey (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I can, however, do work while touring unimaginative monster zoo. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) For the turn differences, I think it has something to do with the levels as well, at lower levels, it is faster to clear a level, even though you didn't have the shinning impenetrable steel covers. Oh and I'm still using haste and often shadow veil, so it might be that. I'll probably drop them off after I upgrade my armor and rapier. At least I'm slowly improving, kinda. At the beginning of the year, I had to fight through it in no less than 2 hours with cautions and now I can pretty much breeze through it. Ok, maybe not breeze through, but clumsily walk through it. Thanks for everyone who point this out though, I don't normally track stats. I'll try out some different combinations when I have time. Mmmm I still think there's something weird. I was using haste as well (only dropped it after lvl 400). And that was at lvl ~385-395 I forget exactly where, but... That's pretty close to your level. Can't be enough to undo fucking forges/peerless/savage/jug23 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) SURELY.
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Mar 19 2019, 03:42
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KamuiSeph
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Ok so tried 2 runs (woke up before Dawn and hadn't done DwD before going to bed). (both non-bonus days, no infusions, no enchants. Regular imperil run) First run: 3 Phase (no radiant) + 2 Cotton (no charged)  15,455 Magic Score 0.936 Proficiency Factor Second run: 4 Phase (1 radiant) + 1 Cotton (no charged)  17,820 Magic Score 0.681 Proficiency Factor (the lower t/s on the second run is cause the alt site started lagging like a bitch after round ~80 or so) Still.... Fewer imperil casts, less dmg taken, more dmg done, fewer turns...... I don't see how 2 cotton could possibly be better? Unless I guess if they are both charged? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Mar 19 2019, 03:43
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Mar 19 2019, 04:47
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Nezu
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Mar 18 2019, 22:10)  Oh and I'm still using haste and often shadow veil, so it might be that. I'll probably drop them off after I upgrade my armor and rapier. With your current gear & forging I feel like you absolutely should drop haste & sveil asap, and you should see a huge improvement. Your rapier's a little weaker than it could be, but your gear should easily drop you to the 5-6k turn range, if not pushing into the 4k area...
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