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Oh yeah look at those turns

Oh yeah look at those turns

I thought 1H prefer spirit stance rather than OFC.

By the way how high should I have on evade at my level? Just curious.

55~60%, I guess

I thought 1H prefer spirit stance rather than OFC.

In later rounds my risk of dying is too high if I don't wipe about some of the mobs. Normally I'd vital strike more if I were trying to cut my turns down by the max actually, but I was watching an hour-long TV program so I OFC'ing my way through the back-end was the laziest route

55~60%, I guess

Crap, only at 50.4% right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Just what do I have to do to ramp up those evade. -,-

In later rounds my risk of dying is too high if I don't wipe about some of the mobs. Normally I'd vital strike more if I were trying to cut my turns down by the max actually, but I was watching an hour-long TV program so I OFC'ing my way through the back-end was the laziest route

True, as long as PL monters wiped out it's a safe round, just need to slowly kill SG with normal hits (if planning to OFC again next round).

you can try on arenas (it will depend on how good your stats are), but forget about the rest, you'll need a lot more parry for that...

FWIW, I have no issues with PF IW100s using club/rapier.

Crap, only at 50.4% right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Just what do I have to do to ramp up those evade. -,-

At least forge 5 all your gear, keep your agi up reasonably, but most importantly - keeping your burden as low as possible. I didn't hit 60 til I was able to get both weapons ethereal, and I only have one shadowdancer piece - 2 fleet, 2 negation (not even close to optimal, btw, just not many good shadowdancer pieces available to replace them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

At least forge 5 all your gear, keep your agi up reasonably, but most importantly - keeping your burden as low as possible. I didn't hit 60 til I was able to get both weapons ethereal, and I only have one shadowdancer piece - 2 fleet, 2 negation (not even close to optimal, btw, just not many good shadowdancer pieces available to replace them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

Ah I haven't forge my armors at all, I'm a bit reluctant because shade fragment is not exactly cheap, how many shade fragment do I need to upgrade 1 armor piece let's say breastplate to forge 5?
I already have 0 burden by the way.

This post has been edited by fuadhika: Mar 12 2019, 11:26

Ah I haven't forge my armors at all, I'm a bit reluctant because shade fragment is not exactly cheap, how many shade fragment do I need to upgrade 1 armor piece let's say breastplate to forge 5?
I already have 0 burden by the way.

Good news: when you level a stat with a special component (like phazons & shade frags) all other stats on that piece can catch up to that level without using one - so, upgrading everything to forge 5 will only cost 5 shade frags. About 30-40k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's the cheapest of the bunch, at least.

Forge bonuses work on a logarithmic curve, so those first 5 levels are really important - by level 10, you've already got 50% of the bonuses you'd get from level 100.

Edit: just to clarify for any later readers, 5 would be 50% of the bonuses for most stats since they're only going to 50 - it's only ADB/MDB where it's 10/100

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 12 2019, 14:50

Good news: when you level a stat with a special component (like phazons & shade frags) all other stats on that piece can catch up to that level without using one - so, upgrading everything to forge 5 will only cost 5 shade frags. About 30-40k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's the cheapest of the bunch, at least.

Forge bonuses work on a logarithmic curve, so those first 5 levels are really important - by level 10, you've already got 50% of the bonuses you'd get from level 100.

Nice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) thank you for the info.

FWIW, I have no issues with PF IW100s using club/rapier.

D: what are your stats? Last time I tried (before lv400 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) it wasn't a nice experience

D: what are your stats? Last time I tried (before lv400 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) it wasn't a nice experience

Re-equipping the nimble rapier:


With my balance rapier (shout-out to IW for letting me get to butcher4/fatality4 then giving me overpower 1 + elec strike):


Most of my armor is pretty average/bad so I'm sure you can outperform this no problem.

Also, today's DWD: 5168 turns, so roughly in line with the nimble rapiers still. Might be able to drop below 5k on Friday... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 12 2019, 13:57

Ok, you were right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I tried pffest and fled till round 650 (cure: 58, full cure:60, spark of life: 6). Club of slaughter + rapier of the nimble

Ok, you were right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I tried pffest and fled till round 650 (cure: 58, full cure:60, spark of life: 6). Club of slaughter + rapier of the nimble

That's simultaneously promising and worrying - if that's where you're calling it quits, is DW even capable of a full clear without near-peerless gear?

I know this is meant to be for DWD stats specifically, but this topic is a really good all-round benchmark for fighting style capabilities, honestly. Please excuse me a few off-topic messages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 12 2019, 22:19

That's simultaneously promising and worrying - if that's where you're calling it quits, is DW even capable of a full clear without near-peerless gear?

I'm pretty sure you can achieve it easily with a rapier and a nimble waki. In my case, if I had a fully forged peerless rapier I'd gain around 1.5% parry chance and 0.5% evade if my club was ethereal, don't know if that would make a difference...

I'm pretty sure you can achieve it easily with a rapier and a nimble waki. In my case, if I had a fully forged peerless rapier I'd gain around 1.5% parry chance and 0.5% evade if my club was ethereal, don't know if that would make a difference...

I'm not necessarily sure the difference between club and rapier would be that major against regular monsters (rather than schoolgirls) - less time & need to stack up penetrated armor, and also more survivability gain from the stun...

Is that the difference in parry between using a club MH and a slaughter rapier MH, or between your rapier as an offhand and a peerless rapier?

Just a quick check... dual wielding (low forge) nimble rapiers gets me to 80% parry, haha

I'm not necessarily sure the difference between club and rapier would be that major against regular monsters (rather than schoolgirls) - less time & need to stack up penetrated armor, and also more survivability gain from the stun...

I think 90% parry can help a lot (rapier +waki), my nimble rapier forged to lv.50 gets me to 80% but it seems that's not enough.

Is that the difference in parry between using a club MH and a slaughter rapier MH, or between your rapier as an offhand and a peerless rapier?

my current nimble rapier vs. a peerless one

I think 90% parry can help a lot (rapier +waki), my nimble rapier forged to lv.50 gets me to 80% but it seems that's not enough.
my current nimble rapier vs. a peerless one

If you're going that defensive, would you use a rapier of slaughter mainhand or a nimble? I would guess nimble for 90% parry, that's nuts

If you're going that defensive, would you use a rapier of slaughter mainhand or a nimble? I would guess nimble for 90% parry, that's nuts

Slaughter would be enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

With IW on staff cut down turns by almost 1k.
Clear speed by ~6m


I'm still confused as to what I'm doing wrong I guess.
Saioux is getting ~300 turns less

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With 2 magnificent pieces, no infusions and I assume no aether either (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

That's pretty good! I use aether, but I don't think it makes too much of a difference, in SG especially. My staff isn't actually max forged, but I forged my phases to 10 so maybe that's the reason?
Apart from that, I got deprecating perks and the pony quiz perks, so if you haven't got them maybe it's a good idea to get those? Especially the pony quiz perk is really really good for mage.

Also, what's your prof factor? Mine's 0.7 right now so maybe that's another reason?

This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 14 2019, 07:23