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Do you have Jug5 for your armors I assume? I've yet to get them and around round 147 monster spirit attacks blew 20% of my sp and subsequently killed me and my SoL failed and I was defeated lmao. Super pissed off.

I think maybe it's a good idea to either OFC or use haste and/or shadow veil because otherwise they hit too hard and I have to use cure every other turn which sucks.

I tried using OFC for rounds with 3 SGs but it's really tricky and doesn't really provide any turns reduction compared to VS so I think I'll just stick with VS. The main problem is when OFC leaves only 3SG alive you have to build up OC without triggering SS for a while since my OC doesn't build up each turn and I have to stay above 200 to use OFC. I guess it's more trouble than worth honestly.

I might try changing the order of spells to full cure -health potion - cure tho.

I think maybe it's a good idea to either OFC or use haste and/or shadow veil because otherwise they hit too hard and I have to use cure every other turn which sucks.

are you talking about IW? This thread was kinda dedicated to DwD.
I was using haste and shadow for a long time on lower levels, of course they still help a lot in iw and pfest.
I have jug5 jug5 jug2, changing shield to one having end gave me ~1.4k hp. Mitigations help a lot too.
Legendary Zircon Power Helmet of Protection
Legendary Savage Power Armor of Protection
Legendary Ruby Power Gauntlets of Balance
Legendary Amber Power Leggings of Slaughter
Legendary Amber Power Leggings of Slaughter

Ugh no I'm talking about DwD, and at least to me they hit pretty hard in rounds 140-150 and put me immediately back to curing range every other turn. I do'n thave any Jug so maybe that's that. I thought boosting block chance would rid of that issue but it actually got me killed yesterday after they spammed 5 spirit attacks in a turn and drained me of SP. It sucked.

new record =D

are you talking about IW? This thread was kinda dedicated to DwD.
I was using haste and shadow for a long time on lower levels, of course they still help a lot in iw and pfest.
I have jug5 jug5 jug2, changing shield to one having end gave me ~1.4k hp. Mitigations help a lot too.
Legendary Zircon Power Helmet of Protection
Legendary Savage Power Armor of Protection
Legendary Ruby Power Gauntlets of Balance
Legendary Amber Power Leggings of Slaughter
Legendary Amber Power Leggings of Slaughter

Damn, that's a decent speed with not even that many Slaughter pieces.
What's you rapier+shield set up, if you don't mind my asking?

I've reached 25 min on bonus day and around 27 on non bonus day as 1h rapier turtle, mostly thanks to strategy optimizations. no DD, no EE
Still not sure if I want to use OFC at all, more spiritstance management it adds eats more real time. Speaking only about DwD though, with more normal mobs a round in 110 rounds it's more justifiable.
It really comes down to the fact that 2+ pen armor is better than maxed imperil. No wonder the mileage from people not using exclusively rapiers is different.

btw what's your strategy optimization? Saw you using absorb and focus, are they a thing? I think it really comes down to later rounds where three SGs show up and currently what I'm doing ins imperil-vs on them, but was wondering if there's a better strategy

EDIT: Swapped armor with mag slaughter which increased my dmg by roughly 200p (or 3%), quite significant reduction in turns (4800 to 4640), wonder if it was a coincidence hmm.



This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 24 2019, 01:03

~1 hour, on normal.

could have done it without potions, but I was getting bored of focusing.

~1 hour, on normal.

could have done it without potions, but I was getting bored of focusing.

No Protection, no Spirit Shield, no Spark of Life...
Uncle Stu, a challenger has appeared!

Nightwishman, is that a conscious choice not using said buffs?
Also try using Imperil on bosses and use Vital Strike when they (bosses) get Stunned from counter-attack.
It should improve your time and allow to increase difficulty.

No Protection, no Spirit Shield, no Spark of Life...
Uncle Stu, a challenger has appeared!

Nightwishman, is that a conscious choice not using said buffs?
Also try using Imperil on bosses and use Vital Strike when they (bosses) get Stunned from counter-attack.
It should improve your time and allow to increase difficulty.

That is truly hardcore. Also, you should get IW 10 on your weapon - void damage really helps a lot.

Edit: Also, use draughts, they are helpful.

Edit 2: Focusing??? That really slows you down - both from not attacking and also from using up your overcharge that you need to keep your spirit status always active.

This post has been edited by magiclamp: Feb 24 2019, 07:16

No Protection, no Spirit Shield, no Spark of Life...
Uncle Stu, a challenger has appeared!

Nightwishman, is that a conscious choice not using said buffs?
Also try using Imperil on bosses and use Vital Strike when they (bosses) get Stunned from counter-attack.
It should improve your time and allow to increase difficulty.

it was on normal....

and im lazy

im not doing that again, it was toooo boring.



dont need those buffs in normal. i could have finished it at full stats without using a single potion, or worrying about dying. focus, regen, heartbreaker. probably don't need haste or veil either.


but yea, not doing that again.

This post has been edited by Nightwishman: Feb 24 2019, 07:18

No Protection, no Spirit Shield, no Spark of Life...
Uncle Stu, a challenger has appeared!

Not really. I use Protec and SS and i do also smell haste in a Auto-Cast Slot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Btw because of Nonis new club, i got a new goal.

Beating DwD without any consumables. I wonder if this is even possible. I mean i guess i could get IA IV and V to reduce mana usage, i could stop using SS to save some spirit. And i would think of dont use Heartseeker, if not for the crit chance, i mean sure as sure i have to do it without imperil, so PA is a must have to kill the SG and without heartseeker getting them debuffed gets a lot harder. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Well, i have to do some test runs and after that i will see. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

So, i did now some test runs in an 100 round IW and i did notice, keeping your mana up isnt actually that much of a problem, but your spirit is, so you could save quite some of it by just dont go into spirit stance except you have to cast another regen or HS. But of course that way the whole battle does take longer and some unlucky hits can cost you all the saved spirit anyway, especialy when you use focus to get your mana up. So i guess the best would it be to wait for that until only one monster is left that is stunned, which isnt so easy sometimes as it may sound. And DwD has much more rounds and those stupid SG will take some time. So i guess i will for the first test run in DwD itself after i got at least IA IV and some more PM and MM.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 24 2019, 09:17

Beating DwD without any consumables. I wonder if this is even possible.

i've done that as heavy mage iron sorcerer, using ether tap and spirit theft to keep my vitals up. took a while

i've done that as heavy mage iron sorcerer, using ether tap and spirit theft to keep my vitals up. took a while

Of course spirit theft. That is the solution. I completly forgot about this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) Thanks sickentide for reminding me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
edit:And it was the solution. DwD without any consumables including gems. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 25 2019, 11:49

btw what's your strategy optimization? Saw you using absorb and focus, are they a thing? I think it really comes down to later rounds where three SGs show up and currently what I'm doing ins imperil-vs on them, but was wondering if there's a better strategy

Absorb is just to try trigger channeling for buffs. Focus because fuck this

I use it sometimes if I'm out of spirit stance by the beginning of the round, which is very rare. In SS it's not worth using. Though before I got decently forged armor at ~360lv I would not dare use it on pfudor because of damage taken.

Main improvement is just getting used to hover keys for vital and imperil and not overusing imperil.
Idk if my strategy is gonna work for you, because my vs can finish off SG after stacking a bit of penetrated armor on it and I don't use it on Konata if other SGs are present.
But for the record in 1-2 SG rounds I tend to spread imperil on everything at the beginning of the round, like most people. Then start hovering SG and hold down vital key when it gets a stun, if that happens too quickly and it's not imped, I might wait for 2nd stun for more penetrated armor stacks.
At 3 SG rounds I start by hovering SG, vital it after 2nd stun, if it doesn't crit or bleed use imperil, to finish it with regular attacks, while vital is on cd. If it crits or bleeds, SG is as good as dead and I switch to next one. By the time I finish SGs most of mob hp is gone to counters. If miss vital timing at the begging of the round, then I can use OFC.

Nice,nice. I've seen some improvements over the last few days, but gotta work on my t/s (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That's pretty fast; can I see the new characters stats?

Sure, here you go:



This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 28 2019, 03:20

Nice,nice. I've seen some improvements over the last few days, but gotta work on my t/s (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That's pretty fast; can I see the new characters stats?

This post has been edited by Insania: Feb 28 2019, 03:13

Nice,nice.

Nice? You call this nice? -.-
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5341607

I know why i no longer pay any attention to my dwd turns number. All i could possible see there is nohting but dissapointment, sadness and anger anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Damned 10bo fix the fucking balance of this game.
*mumble* faster *mumble* with a mag set *mumble* nearly double the damage *mumble* 11% more crit *mumble* (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Nice? You call this nice? -.-
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5341607

I know why i no longer pay any attention to my dwd turns number. All i could possible see there is nohting but dissapointment, sadness and anger anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Damned 10bo fix the fucking balance of this game.
*mumble* faster *mumble* with a mag set *mumble* nearly double the damage *mumble* 11% more crit *mumble* (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Yep, I have similar stats to Saioux. Unfortunately, it takes me 48 mins and around 5k turns.

edit: Looking back, my fastest was 38 mins 5K+ turns and 2.4 t.s.

This post has been edited by Insania: Feb 28 2019, 03:58

Nice? You call this nice? -.-
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5341607

I know why i no longer pay any attention to my dwd turns number. All i could possible see there is nohting but dissapointment, sadness and anger anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Damned 10bo fix the fucking balance of this game.
*mumble* faster *mumble* with a mag set *mumble* nearly double the damage *mumble* 11% more crit *mumble* (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

T_T...you should get power slaughter uncle! I think the main thing's just the low level probably (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
And if you are upset with me beating your stats, you should check out Greshnik's - dude pulls out 3.6k on DwD. Crazy shit.

Yep, I have similar stats to Saioux. Unfortunately, it takes me 48 mins.

I guess what it really matters is the number of turns tho, cuz t/s varies.

I am not even talking about the time. Your internet connection has too much to do with that as if i would actually care. But please explain to me how i am suppose to feel when someone with less damage, less crit chance, less stats overall, clear DwD with lesser turns as my personal record. And yes, 4475 turns is my absolute best clear ever. Or at least of those few i actually did even look at. And this was on a fryday with frost infusion, imperil, and the best ussage of vital strike and the OFC i am able to. This is not fair. This is just not fair. I was never allowed to play in the easy mode of the game myself. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) All i am allowed to is seen people with lower level, worse equipment and stats doing times i can only dream of. I do allways my best to help people. To create a family atmosphere. But this is what I get. My reward. And it's not fair! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 28 2019, 03:46