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Thought I'd share my findings with you. Turns out it's very simple: The amount of damage done by a weapon's Bleeding Wound proc is the displayed value plus a percentage that's half of your relevant proficiency (1H, 2H or DW). It's nothing to do with your level, STR, DEX or whatever. (Either that, or by some massively unlikely coincidence it just happens to work out that way for me.)

Just tested it out and it seems to be correct, good work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't think this is totally right, it might only be part of the answer. Because My DW is at 32 and my base Bleeding dmg is 41. It does 48 dmg.

just so it doesn't confuse others, the formula is BASEBLEED x (1+(WEAPON PROF/100)/2)= BLEED TOTAL DMG

This post has been edited by Ido013: Sep 28 2009, 07:07

works out perfectly for me. 123 base bleed, 72 prof 123 x 1.36 gives 167.28
my bleed is 168 in combat. I'd say you found the answer, and that any decimals are rounded up to the next whole number.

oh to have 200 weapon prof...



edit: ido, 41 x 1.16 is 47.56(48)
lol

This post has been edited by marcho: Sep 28 2009, 07:00

Thought I'd share my findings with you. Turns out it's very simple: The amount of damage done by a weapon's Bleeding Wound proc is the displayed value plus a percentage that's half of your relevant proficiency (1H, 2H or DW). It's nothing to do with your level, STR, DEX or whatever. (Either that, or by some massively unlikely coincidence it just happens to work out that way for me.)

Maybe....just maybe....things like Interference and Burden are part of the equation, because the 'math' doesn't add for me, either -I have a 2H that for me currently has listed for its Bleed a value of 86.

I also have a Proficiency in 2H of nearly 60 (58.97), yet I'm only getting about 108 out of the wep whereas your math says it should be about 116.


(And speaking of Bleed....did anybody see that super-sassy Scythe with the 5X Bleed currently on sale in the Bazaar??
It's an awesome weapon, and while I can afford it right now, at this point in time I just don't want to spend that much on pretty much anything [it's over 37,000 Creds].)

works out perfectly for me. 123 base bleed, 72 prof 123 x 1.36 gives 167.28
my bleed is 168 in combat. I'd say you found the answer, and that any decimals are rounded up to the next whole number.

oh to have 200 weapon prof...
edit: ido, 41 x 1.16 is 47.56(48)
lol

Oh I see, I didn't get how to work the formula! XD Thanks for the extra explanation!

Here Sayo, you might want to put this example of the formula on your first post.

BASEBLEED x (1+(WEAPON PROF/100)/2)= BLEED TOTAL DMG

This post has been edited by Ido013: Sep 28 2009, 07:08

Maybe....just maybe....things like Interference and Burden are part of the equation, because the 'math' doesn't add for me, either -I have a 2H that for me currently has listed for its Bleed a value of 86.

I also have a Proficiency in 2H of nearly 60 (58.97), yet I'm only getting about 108 out of the wep whereas your math says it should be about 116.
(And speaking of Bleed....did anybody see that super-sassy Scythe with the 5X Bleed currently on sale in the Bazaar??
It's an awesome weapon, and while I can afford it right now, at this point in time I just don't want to spend that much on pretty much anything [it's over 37,000 Creds].)

technically ya should have 112 bleed. pretty close, double check your numbers maybe?

saw the scythe. pretty nice, but i've seen better. hell, i have better.

technically ya should have 112 bleed. pretty close, double check your numbers maybe?

saw the scythe. pretty nice, but i've seen better. hell, i have better.

This isn't a particularly difficult math problem.


Current listed Bleed Damage: 86 per tick (the maximum for this Wep is 117/tick at level 88)
Current 2-handed Weapon Proficiency: 58.97 (halved, 29.485)

86 + 29.485 = 115.485

My damage per tick: 108


To rephrase what I said in the earlier Posting, I think that you're onto something here but you might be missing an X-factor or two or three.

Just as a curiosity and perhaps a clue to the mystery: Are you equipped in Weapons and Armor that are exactly or nearly matched to you in level??
Except for that sword, almost everything that I'm wearing is at least Sapphire and a couple of pieces are Diamond, so maybe Level Incompatibility is part of the whole thing, and maybe Burden/Interference is a factor too -I'm a Tank with 86.5 interference and 99.4 Burden.

... really, this isn't a particularly difficult math problem.

86 x 1.295 = 111.37


thanks to ido i can just copy/paste here too: BASEBLEED x (1+(WEAPON PROF/100)/2)= BLEED TOTAL DMG


also, everything i wear is at least twice my level including the sword. i doubt level or interference has any play in it, the equation works perfectly for me.

awesome, I always thought bleed was affected by my weapon dmg modifier.


*the more you know*

(And speaking of Bleed....did anybody see that super-sassy Scythe with the 5X Bleed currently on sale in the Bazaar??
It's an awesome weapon, and while I can afford it right now, at this point in time I just don't want to spend that much on pretty much anything [it's over 37,000 Creds].)

I've had enough bad experiences with no accuracy weapons

The enemy also affects bleed damage, as I've had Tentacle Monsters consistently take about 1/2 the bleed damage as most other monsters.

I've never had that happen. If it's the last tick on them it won't do full damage though.

It seems some of you are having a little trouble with your percentages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Maybe I should just have posted it as an equation? But then some people don't like equations...

One little thing I forgot to mention, which might help Thanos's numbers work out: It looks like the scaled down base damage for higher level weapons isn't actually a whole number - it's only rounded for display purposes. I had to allow a +/- 0.5 tolerance to get everything to fit.

The enemy also affects bleed damage, as I've had Tentacle Monsters consistently take about 1/2 the bleed damage as most other monsters.

I've never had that happen. If it's the last tick on them it won't do full damage though.

If a monster dies to bleed damage, the damage done is equal to their remaining HP.

I can say with confidence that bleed damage is pretty much consistent for every monster. Green Slim took the same amount as Flying Spaghetti Monster.

If a monster dies to bleed damage, the damage done is equal to their remaining HP.

I can say with confidence that bleed damage is pretty much consistent for every monster. Green Slim took the same amount as Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I've got to argue that some monsters seem to be able to reduce the number of turns bleed procs on them. I'm quite positive I've seen the peacock get hit with a bleed from a weapon that should proc it for 4 turns, and it only lasted three ;_; Evil peacock.

that tends to happen when the critter gets in a doublestrike. procs on enemy count their turns, not yours.
on the up side, it still got hit for the damage, just in a shorter timeframe.

at least im pretty sure that's what happened. its what i see scrolling my logs when i notice that happen for me.

Yeah, pretty sure Bleed deals damage any time the monster takes an action. I often see Bleed not activating whenever I'm spamming Shield for proficiency.

Bleed works the same as poison, it deals damage on their action but before they attack, so yes, it's when they're about to attack that it does damage, which is why, for purposes of usefulness, a 1 turn bleed will be better for a fridge than, say, a 1 turn penetration, simply cause with only 1 turn you'll most likely see more benefit from bleed than penetration cause pene will some times wear off before you can attack again.

This post has been edited by Dndestroy: Sep 29 2009, 15:32

I've got to argue that some monsters seem to be able to reduce the number of turns bleed procs on them. I'm quite positive I've seen the peacock get hit with a bleed from a weapon that should proc it for 4 turns, and it only lasted three ;_; Evil peacock.

You're not the only one who has witnessed this; I have a 4-tick Bleed Weapon for which I have often seen The Enemy suffer as few as only one Bleed tick.


(The next time that it happens, I'll make a picture of it and either edit this Post or put it into a new one.)

Hopefully, it's just a bug of some sort to be fixed in subsequent versions of HV.....