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post Dec 15 2012, 20:16
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QUOTE(Kelenius @ Dec 15 2012, 19:36) *

No, I mean the maximum amount. When you scan the monster, you can see its max MP and SP. Anyone knows the formula for that?

It is much like the damage you dealt, you can only guess the rough range.


On side note, what is this "The name is bad and you should feel bad" message in the monster lab when I tried to create a name? It is not like "the name is already been taken" message and I dont put any offensive word in the name (the name I tried to use came from anime character).
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post Dec 15 2012, 20:26
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QUOTE(Kelenius @ Dec 16 2012, 01:36) *

No, I mean the maximum amount. When you scan the monster, you can see its max MP and SP. Anyone knows the formula for that?


Should be the same as character's MP/SP formula.

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On side note, what is this "The name is bad and you should feel bad" message in the monster lab when I tried to create a name? It is not like "the name is already been taken" message and I dont put any offensive word in the name (the name I tried to use came from anime character).


What's the name you're trying to pick? Maybe it contains prohibited phrases.
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post Dec 15 2012, 20:28
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What's the name you're trying to pick? Maybe it contains prohibited phrases.

Seth Nightroad
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post Dec 15 2012, 20:37
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QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 16 2012, 02:28) *

Seth Nightroad


You may need to PM Tenb to check if it's on any prohibited list then. I've almost never seen that message.
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post Dec 16 2012, 07:44
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It appears to be the nightroad part. Penis is allowed but nightroad isn't?
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post Dec 18 2012, 00:34
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What. The. Flying. Fuck.

I wouldn't even care if this was rare, but it's not, and Eila isn't the only one this regularly happens with. Seeing as how everyone and their mother can now double shot me every turn and my 160% accuracy means nothing, this is fucking aggravating. How do people deal with this crap?


8 8 Suomi m1931 Sub-Machine Gun hits you for 3177 piercing damage.
8 5 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 1317 piercing damage.
8 3 Banish blasts Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st for 26411 holy damage.
8 2 You cast Banish.
7 4 You evade the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
7 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
7 2 You cast Banish.
6 4 You evade the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
6 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st hits you for 1077 piercing damage.
6 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
6 1 You cast Banish.
5 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st hits you for 996 piercing damage.
5 3 You parry the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
5 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
5 1 You cast Banish.
4 9 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 3721 piercing damage.
4 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 3721 piercing damage.
4 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
4 1 You cast Banish.
3 6 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 3721 piercing damage.
3 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
3 1 You cast Banish.
2 16 You evade the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
2 14 You parry the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
2 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
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post Dec 18 2012, 03:23
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the parry/resist 4-5 times in a row happens more than enough that I think it is fair to say it is a bug that appears regularly, as there are plenty of people that have posted about it, and it also happens to me.....
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post Dec 18 2012, 03:36
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It's called RNG.
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post Dec 18 2012, 04:12
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Dec 18 2012, 00:34) *

What. The. Flying. Fuck.

I wouldn't even care if this was rare, but it's not, and Eila isn't the only one this regularly happens with. Seeing as how everyone and their mother can now double shot me every turn and my 160% accuracy means nothing, this is fucking aggravating. How do people deal with this crap?

Just be glad this isnt the patch 0.6.8, when even the RNG want to kill players
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post Dec 18 2012, 04:16
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Dec 18 2012, 11:34) *

What. The. Flying. Fuck.

I wouldn't even care if this was rare, but it's not, and Eila isn't the only one this regularly happens with. Seeing as how everyone and their mother can now double shot me every turn and my 160% accuracy means nothing, this is fucking aggravating. How do people deal with this crap?
8 8 Suomi m1931 Sub-Machine Gun hits you for 3177 piercing damage.
8 5 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 1317 piercing damage.
8 3 Banish blasts Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st for 26411 holy damage.
8 2 You cast Banish.
7 4 You evade the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
7 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st evades your spell.
7 2 You cast Banish.
6 4 You evade the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
6 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st hits you for 1077 piercing damage.
6 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
6 1 You cast Banish.
5 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st hits you for 996 piercing damage.
5 3 You parry the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
5 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
5 1 You cast Banish.
4 9 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 3721 piercing damage.
4 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 3721 piercing damage.
4 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
4 1 You cast Banish.
3 6 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 3721 piercing damage.
3 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.
3 1 You cast Banish.
2 16 You evade the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
2 14 You parry the attack from Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st.
2 4 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st resists your spell.

Wow that's harsh how lame is your gear?, I'd say whatever gives you mage fools accuracy get some more of that, I'm not sure what it's like for mages but if you where melee that accuracy is pretty low
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post Dec 18 2012, 06:28
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Accuracy works only against evade, homicidal, of which there's only 1 there. There's anti-resist in focus, but that kills your own evade as well and takes up a turn.
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post Dec 18 2012, 06:47
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QUOTE(Lement @ Dec 18 2012, 17:28) *

Accuracy works only against evade, homicidal, of which there's only 1 there. There's anti-resist in focus, but that kills your own evade as well and takes up a turn.

So what you're saying is Tokens in Dissipation are a good way to piss off a mage?

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post Dec 18 2012, 06:58
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Dec 18 2012, 05:34) *

What. The. Flying. Fuck.

I wouldn't even care if this was rare, but it's not, and Eila isn't the only one this regularly happens with. Seeing as how everyone and their mother can now double shot me every turn and my 160% accuracy means nothing, this is fucking aggravating. How do people deal with this crap?

magnet works for me
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post Dec 18 2012, 06:59
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Yes, but getting it happen several times in a row requires quite a lot of tokens in dissipation since the chance of that happening decreases exponentially. If you want to piss off a specific mage the monsters might better be impervious to the elements they use with lots of tokens in fortitude too +high end and str to boot(upping wis helps, but not nearly as much as upping end).
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post Dec 18 2012, 07:14
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QUOTE(Lement @ Dec 18 2012, 17:59) *

Yes, but getting it happen several times in a row requires quite a lot of tokens in dissipation since the chance of that happening decreases exponentially. If you want to piss off a specific mage the monsters might better be impervious to the elements they use with lots of tokens in fortitude too +high end and str to boot(upping wis helps, but not nearly as much as upping end).

Huh I would have thought Wisdom would be better against mages, and yeah I'm guessing the monster he posted about has his Dissipation probably pretty much maxed by the talk around town.
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post Dec 18 2012, 07:21
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Wisdom isn't nearly as useful as END because END provides more mitigation per point, because WIS and END are added with diminishing returns, meaning one more % from END is better than from WIS, and finally END's effect is far further boosted by chaos tokens than WIS is.

And yeah, I'd bet Eila has even accuracy maxed.
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post Dec 18 2012, 07:30
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Dec 18 2012, 06:34) *

What. The. Flying. Fuck.

I wouldn't even care if this was rare, but it's not, and Eila isn't the only one this regularly happens with. Seeing as how everyone and their mother can now double shot me every turn and my 160% accuracy means nothing, this is fucking aggravating. How do people deal with this crap?


Well...here's my estimation.
Maxed Dissipation means there's 20% chance to resist a spell. The chance of resisting 5 spells in a row is 0.2^5 = 0.032%. It's about once per ~3000 monsters. The four highest arenas (excluding EoD and above) already has about 2000 monsters, so even if you play 400 rounds a day, you'll still have that about twice per 3 days.
That may be the reason why it looks common.

Well people may argue that not all monsters have their Dissipation maxed, so the chance may be 2-3 times less, but still it's going to happen once per week. Also, resisted monsters are more noticeable for mages as they're often singled out, unlike melees who more likely deals with a group of monsters.

Some would suggest using 1-2 magnets before casting your offensive spell. Seems that it works for some mages.
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post Dec 18 2012, 07:40
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QUOTE(Lement @ Dec 17 2012, 21:21) *

Eila has everything maxed.

Fixed.
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post Dec 18 2012, 07:42
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When putting crystals into Elemental resistance does that count towards their total resistance in that damage type? Could that be why it resists so much to Banish?

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If you max out Dissipation and have 20% resist and then max out Fire elemental resistance then if someone uses a fire attack on your monster is its resist going to be the 20% plus the extra fire resistance?

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post Dec 18 2012, 07:52
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QUOTE(homicidalsage @ Dec 18 2012, 13:42) *

When putting crystals into Elemental resistance does that count towards their total resistance in that damage type? Could that be why it resists so much to Banish?

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If you max out Dissipation and have 20% resist and then max out Fire elemental resistance then if someone uses a fire attack on your monster is its resist going to be the 20% plus the extra fire resistance?


No it surely isn't. Or else FSM/IPU/RL will be godly powerful (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

But reducing damage (by resistance) surely hurts, as you need more spells to kill, thus more chance to get your spell resistsed.
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