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Mar 21 2010, 03:55
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 21 2010, 08:25)  For the second one, I meant parry vs accuracy. I have a dagger with 40.64 accuracy, but only 5.88 parry. I have another dagger with 11.76 parry, but only 18.69 accuracy. I can't figure out which one would be better. For my gear, I've been working on low burden. It has 3 pieces of kevlar, 1 of phase, and 1 of silk. I wield an axe, and a dagger in my off hand, but sometimes I use a katana, and wakizashi. My new axe is going to be 23%, 3T, and 73 damage. Also, what monsters are immune to fire, I've been considering switching back to fire instead of elec, because 2 pieces of my gear have fire bonuses.
For the monster's elemental weaknesses and strengths, get HV STATS. Love it! As for parry VS accuracy, it depends on you the most. Do you want to kill mob faster or last longer? Personally I think parry would be better, especially in a DW setup. that 50% increased parry in the off-hand doesn't mean nothing you know (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 21 2010, 03:57
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 21 2010, 01:25)  For the second one, I meant parry vs accuracy. I have a dagger with 40.64 accuracy, but only 5.88 parry. I have another dagger with 11.76 parry, but only 18.69 accuracy. I can't figure out which one would be better. For my gear, I've been working on low burden. It has 3 pieces of kevlar, 1 of phase, and 1 of silk. I wield an axe, and a dagger in my off hand, but sometimes I use a katana, and wakizashi. My new axe is going to be 23%, 3T, and 73 damage. Also, what monsters are immune to fire, I've been considering switching back to fire instead of elec, because 2 pieces of my gear have fire bonuses.
In the offhand parry is better than acc. unless of course you dual with sword chucks in main hand, but who do that? You use an Axe heh? Have you tried a rapier? PA is the most powerful effect, and they also have parry, which axes don't have.
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Mar 21 2010, 04:08
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 21 2010, 08:57)  In the offhand parry is better than acc. unless of course you dual with sword chucks in main hand, but who do that? You use an Axe heh? Have you tried a rapier? PA is the most powerful effect, and they also have parry, which axes don't have.
But bleed is the better one for speed grinding (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 21 2010, 04:39
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 21 2010, 02:08)  But bleed is the better one for speed grinding (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Only if you are talking about 2H or niten.
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Mar 21 2010, 04:45
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 20 2010, 19:39)  QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 20 2010, 19:08)  But bleed is the better one for speed grinding (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Only if you are talking about 2H or niten. I take it that neither of you have ever done grindfest with a very good estoc.
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Mar 21 2010, 04:57
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Wayward_Vagabond
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I can't find even find a comparable bleed at my level in a katana. That, and I just like wielding an axe. My main combat is grinding, so PA wouldn't do me very much good.
This post has been edited by Marvin666: Mar 21 2010, 04:59
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Mar 21 2010, 05:00
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Mar 21 2010, 02:45)  Only if you are talking about 2H or niten.
I take it that neither of you have ever done grindfest with a very good estoc.
Not really, I rarely use 2H, even so I suppose you're talking about a balance one with many turns and high chance to proc: This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 21 2010, 05:00
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Mar 21 2010, 05:05
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Wayward_Vagabond
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Dammit, somebody beat me to the axe. Anybody selling something with similar stats? Current axe is only 20% 3T 59 damage.
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Mar 21 2010, 05:19
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 21 2010, 02:57)  I can't find even find a comparable bleed at my level in a katana. That, and I just like wielding an axe. My main combat is grinding, so PA wouldn't do me very much good.
Niten birngs more power damage, and the defense and accuracy of 2W Really, I kill all normal mobs in 1-2 hits when PA procs, where bleeding do that? QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 21 2010, 03:05)  Dammit, somebody beat me to the axe. Anybody selling something with similar stats? Current axe is only 20% 3T 59 damage.
It's better if you show the link, so we can compare it.
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Mar 21 2010, 05:21
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ChosenUno
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Mar 21 2010, 05:22
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Wayward_Vagabond
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This is what I'm wielding now, and this is what I was beaten to. I have a minimum of 20%, 2T, and 50 damage to buy an axe. This post has been edited by Marvin666: Mar 21 2010, 05:25
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Mar 21 2010, 05:33
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Thanos008
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Does anybody know/remember if your Resist Stat works against a Boss/God's Spirit attack??
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Mar 21 2010, 05:35
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Mar 21 2010, 03:33)  Does anybody know/remember if your Resist Stat works against a Boss/God's Spirit attack??
If it's magical it works, see on wiki, but if you're talking about the 3 gods, I think they're all magic, so they can be resisted
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Mar 21 2010, 05:46
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 21 2010, 10:19)  Really, I kill all normal mobs in 1-2 hits when PA procs, where bleeding do that?
With PA, you can kill a target very quickly. No argument there. But with high bleed+ok proc chance+acceptable accuracy+acceptable crit chance (~2x my level in damage + 15% + 18% + 9% is what I'm using now), I can kill more mobs at the same time. Hit, proc bleed, move on. Mob usually die in 2 turns after bleed is procced, unless it's a mini-boss/boss. The stronger mobs usually die in 3 turns (Sperm whale, scary ghost). But now I'm considering an estoc. It's tempting (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . As always, I'm just stating my experience and opinion. YMMV.
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Mar 21 2010, 13:57
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 21 2010, 03:46)  With PA, you can kill a target very quickly. No argument there. But with high bleed+ok proc chance+acceptable accuracy+acceptable crit chance (~2x my level in damage + 15% + 18% + 9% is what I'm using now), I can kill more mobs at the same time. Hit, proc bleed, move on. Mob usually die in 2 turns after bleed is procced, unless it's a mini-boss/boss. The stronger mobs usually die in 3 turns (Sperm whale, scary ghost). But now I'm considering an estoc. It's tempting (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . As always, I'm just stating my experience and opinion. YMMV. Yeah, it's possible to kill mobs at same time, but don't forget that the bleeding comes after the mob's action, so you take more damage. But everyone can use whatever likes, it's not like axes suck, and for a time I even used a club.
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Mar 21 2010, 15:18
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ChosenUno
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Not saying they suck. Besides, when you use 2H it's not like you're going for survivability (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). DW is great for survival and (I presume) boss killing?? After all DW has the highest single target damage potential.
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Mar 21 2010, 16:20
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 21 2010, 06:18)  After all DW has the highest single target damage potential.
Actually, that would be magic. Magic also has the highest multiple target damage potential.
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Mar 21 2010, 16:27
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 21 2010, 13:18)  Not saying they suck. Besides, when you use 2H it's not like you're going for survivability (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). DW is great for survival and (I presume) boss killing?? After all DW has the highest single target damage potential. I disagree, I mean with the last 2 sentences, I have tried several 2W approaches, (Rapier or Axe + Dagger nimble/slaughter/balance or Sword sucks, and even try the most powerful damage I could have per hit Axe+Club both of them have -+30 damage component each), and no one ever reached the survival I have with 1HS. Oh, and niten it's like 2H, but with the power and protection of 2W, and it's the only one that could came more closer to 1HS survival, but then again my 2H prof is about a little more than a half of my level so my bleeding doesn't do the most potential damage I can have. The current problem with niten is that you can't gain prof, if not more guys would use it.
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Mar 21 2010, 19:16
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Black Dynamite
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i have seen this [Cheater] in front of a few user's names what does it mean? i am thinking that it means someone got caught cheating in the Hentaiverse
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Mar 21 2010, 19:18
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Wayward_Vagabond
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They used an auto grinding script. Tenboro set a trap, that adds cheater to the front of their name every time they use it.
This post has been edited by Marvin666: Mar 21 2010, 19:18
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