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Mar 10 2010, 13:10
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hgbdd
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Sorry for the double post, but I have a question: QUOTE Ether Theft drains mana from the afflicted mob and gives it to you. The mana gives per tick is a small percentage of the targets max mp. This is still valid? I though that, also depend on staff proficiency. I suppose you get a large Mana back, when you fight Bosses/legendaries/Gods, since they have a much more MP. This post has been edited by cmdct: Mar 10 2010, 13:13
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Mar 10 2010, 13:37
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 10 2010, 03:10)  I suppose you get a large Mana back, when you fight Bosses/legendaries/Gods, since they have a much more MP. Actually, the big monsters don't have significantly higher MP totals than normal ones. They're higher, but not nearly so much higher as their HP totals. Also, you can easily test the way ET returns mana by using it against a normal monster and a Mind Raper. Rapers have enough more MP than normal monsters to have a noticeable difference in mana return.
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Mar 10 2010, 17:03
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Zero Angel
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Does Luck of the Draw affect the subtype of equipment that I get?
For example, will I get more Kevlar or Phase equipment if I level it? And does it have an effect on the suffixes of the equipment?
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Mar 10 2010, 19:11
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Mar 10 2010, 07:03)  Does Luck of the Draw affect the subtype of equipment that I get?
For example, will I get more Kevlar or Phase equipment if I level it? And does it have an effect on the suffixes of the equipment?
Now that is an interesting question, one which I don't think we have the answer to (I don't even have it though I haven't asked Tenboro about it either). To know it, we would need to know how loot rolls work and where the bonus is applied.
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Mar 10 2010, 22:29
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Mar 10 2010, 07:03)  Does Luck of the Draw affect the subtype of equipment that I get?
For example, will I get more Kevlar or Phase equipment if I level it? And does it have an effect on the suffixes of the equipment? I would guess no, mostly for 2 reasons: 1) You can get various qualities of Phase and Kevlar armors (Crude->Exquisite). If the quality roll affected your chance at Phase, it'd be very convoluted to determine the subsequent quality of said Phase piece. 2) Hito has like, 20+ in Luck, and as of the last time I talked to him about it, had never gotten a piece of Phase cloth. That'd be a strange statistical anomaly regardless of his Luck level, but with it so high, I think that helps tip the argument away from Luck. My guess is that Kevlar and Phase, much like Ethereal weapons, are simply super rare types of equipment. Probably 1 in 100,000 drop chance, or even less.
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Mar 10 2010, 22:51
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Mar 10 2010, 20:29)  2) Hito has like, 20+ in Luck, and as of the last time I talked to him about it, had never gotten a piece of Phase cloth. That'd be a strange statistical anomaly regardless of his Luck level, but with it so high, I think that helps tip the argument away from Luck.
Well, maybe he can't have any phase, unless he caps Luck/Quarter/Scavenger first, and after that, only the goddess drop it on battletoads, but that's only a conspiracy theory (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 10 2010, 23:14
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 10 2010, 03:10)  I suppose you get a large Mana back, when you fight Bosses/legendaries/Gods, since they have a much more MP.
I tested it the last time I did an arena and I got 29 per turn from a Manbearpig. Thats up from 18-19 from non-Mind Raper mini-bosses.
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Mar 10 2010, 23:31
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Mar 10 2010, 21:14)  I tested it the last time I did an arena and I got 29 per turn from a Manbearpig. Thats up from 18-19 from non-Mind Raper mini-bosses.
That's more 50%, what mana cost you to cast AOE spells?
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Mar 11 2010, 00:53
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 10 2010, 13:31)  That's more 50%, what mana cost you to cast AOE spells?
Uh, 35ish for level 3s.
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Mar 11 2010, 01:07
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Mar 10 2010, 22:53)  Uh, 35ish for level 3s.
That's more than you get from ether thief (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I have another question, I decided to raise some points of staff proficiency, so I went CakeFest with almost full plate, and having +80 burden. Now, I noticed that I don't get the double hit, why? 50s levels ago I'm sure I was getting double hits quite often, so this means that the speed of mobs, increase slower than ours?
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Mar 11 2010, 03:07
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 10 2010, 15:07)  I have another question, I decided to raise some points of staff proficiency, so I went CakeFest with almost full plate, and having +80 burden. Now, I noticed that I don't get the double hit, why? 50s levels ago I'm sure I was getting double hits quite often, so this means that the speed of mobs, increase slower than ours? You have X-Attack now, which makes your melee swings 25% faster. It's like having an extra, more powerful copy of Haste active on every turn where you make a melee attack, which makes it almost impossible to get double-hit by normal monsters. This post has been edited by coredumperror: Mar 11 2010, 03:07
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Mar 11 2010, 03:14
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QUOTE(uth @ Dec 5 2009, 07:04)  proficiency actually has very little effect on cure, it affects regen much more (you don't really notice a difference in cure at higher interference but it is the drop in regen is pretty noticable), magic rating does have an effect on cure, but to what extent I'm not entirely sure (I really don't think its enough to pump more points into int/wis for more healing, I'll probably do some comparison between normal gear cures and full gossamer gear cures later), holy rating does increase cure but again its fairly marginal, I think its less then a 10% increase with both the tier 1 and 2 rating abilities, if you have the AP to get it you can, but its not really necessary, I personally do have the points in holy rating.
Oh and magic rating doesn't affect supportive spells they are only proficiency based. Depreciating magic is also prof based, although I'm not sure if higher dmg multi, and magic rating affect poison.
I have very poor INT and half WIS of LV, and I have Cure and Shield only. Supportive spells seems to be significantly affected by supportive proficiency, so I'm training it. otherwise, Magic rating seems to affect cure a little and don't affect supportive spells. Is there worth distributing to INT to raise Magic Rating?
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Mar 11 2010, 03:21
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Mar 11 2010, 01:07)  You have X-Attack now, which makes your melee swings 25% faster. It's like having an extra, more powerful copy of Haste active on every turn where you make a melee attack, which makes it almost impossible to get double-hit by normal monsters.
Oh, I didn't remember that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Thanks for the explanation (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Mar 11 2010, 03:38
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QUOTE(ichigai @ Mar 10 2010, 18:14)  I have very poor INT and half WIS of LV, and I have Cure and Shield only. Supportive spells seems to be significantly affected by supportive proficiency, so I'm training it. otherwise, Magic rating seems to affect cure a little and don't affect supportive spells. Is there worth distributing to INT to raise Magic Rating? Like the old Depeche Mode song says, 'Everything counts in large amounts." Get ALL of your basic Attributes (STR, DEX, INT, WIS, et al.) to at least your current Character Level. Hentai Verse is such an exquisitely-balanced game in at least this regard that keeping all those Stats at least to your level confers significant benefits to you that you just can't see at this time (due mostly to your currently low level). Believe you me -take it from somebody who knows -you don't want to get all the way to Level X, find out that a given Stat really is useful to you after all at higher Levels....and then realize that you neglected to keep that certain Stat 'up to speed' and you have have to raise its level from a very low number all the way up to where you are now. EDIT: and by the way: At SOME point, you will almost certainly change from one Character Class (Mage, Warrior, etc.) to another at least once in your "career" -almost everyone eventually does. Now, you wouldn't want to start exploring life as a Mage only to find out that you never developed your INT, would you?? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by Thanos008: Mar 11 2010, 03:42
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Mar 11 2010, 04:10
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 10 2010, 15:07)  That's more than you get from ether thief (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Yeah? Ether theft is not supposed to restore you to full mana... QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Mar 10 2010, 17:38)  Get ALL of your basic Attributes (STR, DEX, INT, WIS, et al.) to at least your current Character Level.
I like advice that is impossible to follow until you reach about level 100 (I can't remember when you are able to have them at your level, maybe it was higher than that, not much lower.) This post has been edited by Boggyb: Mar 11 2010, 04:13
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Mar 11 2010, 04:21
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Mar 11 2010, 02:10)  Yeah? Ether theft is not supposed to restore you to full mana...
I know, but I thought it could at least, recover the mana you need to cast AOE spells each turn. QUOTE(Boggyb @ Mar 11 2010, 02:10)  I like advice that is impossible to follow until you reach about level 100 (I can't remember when you are able to have them at your level, maybe it was higher than that, not much lower.)
I remember coredump said it was at level 115.
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Mar 11 2010, 04:26
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 10 2010, 18:21)  I know, but I thought it could at least, recover the mana you need to cast AOE spells each turn.
Well, that was the level 3 AOE. I can clear rounds in IW/Grindfest using the level 1 Lightning AOE which costs me 11. This is not to say I wouldn't love for an increase in MP regen from Ether Theft, I would, but if any change is going to be made to it, I would say that removing the Coalesced requirement would be a more helpful one.
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Mar 12 2010, 06:30
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Has anybody ever seen a katana of the fox?
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Mar 12 2010, 06:44
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coredumperror
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Mar 11 2010, 20:30)  Has anybody ever seen a katana of the fox? As far as I know, the "of the Fox" suffix is only available to mage gear, like Staffs and cloth. That's for the same reason that "of the Ox" doesn't come on Staffs: mages have no desire for bonus STR on their gear.
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