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Most of mine comes from the weapon itself (a Fine Titanium Longsword of Slaughter). The stated damage is 96 per tick, and I'm guessing the other 10 comes from my 2H proficiency (currently 40.93). That's scaled down from 144 btw. Whoever dumped it on the shop was either an idiot or is now using something very nice indeed.

Proficiency can help a lot. I've got something that should do 190, is scaled down to 170, but is actually doing 240 when dual wielded. That's 70 damage more per turn then it should be. Oh, sometimes it will now also do 1 more turn of bleed then stated in the stats.

someone dumped a superior sapphire longsword of the ox with +35% dmg, +14 str and 25% proc for 7 turns of bleed in the 200s.

i'm currently re-evaluating my opinion of 2-handers and bleed.


can someone with 50+ 2h prof tell me what their domino strikes chance is?

edit: fail memory, was of the ox, not slaughter.

This post has been edited by marcho: Sep 21 2009, 03:12

Most of mine comes from the weapon itself (a Fine Titanium Longsword of Slaughter). The stated damage is 96 per tick, and I'm guessing the other 10 comes from my 2H proficiency (currently 40.93). That's scaled down from 144 btw. Whoever dumped it on the shop was either an idiot or is now using something very nice indeed.

Then, perhaps, we have a bit of a riddle on our hands.......unless adjectives like "Fine" and "Crude" and "Average" have something to do with Bleed Damage.


My stats:



And the only Bleed Wep that I currently own:




If those Weps really do start to do serious DMG after a while, I'd really like to know where I'm going wrong; I'd definitely settle for a 2H with decent bleed (I now get a LOT of Domino Hits) over a Penetrated Armor Proc.....

might i inquire as to your listed domino strikes chance?

at 20 ish prof i have 34%, i'd like to kinda see how it scales.

might i inquire as to your listed domino strikes chance?

at 20 ish prof i have 34%, i'd like to kinda see how it scales.

I'm getting, by my rough guesstimate, about 40% domino hits in a given combat session, maybe more.


HINT TO GILLIAN: You tell us that your Battle Buddy does everything that our Girlfriends don't....but....ummmmm....my Girlfriend can't calculate how often a Domino Strike hits in @h Combat, IF you know what I mean....

*wink* *wink*

At 46.90 prof I have 34.4%, but then I'm lower level and you definitely have more str and dex than I do. I've noticed an increase of about 1% chance every 3 or so points though.

I'm getting, by my rough guesstimate, about 40% domino hits in a given combat session, maybe more.
HINT TO GILLIAN: You tell us that your Battle Buddy does everything that our Girlfriends don't....but....ummmmm....my Girlfriend can't calculate how often a Domino Strike hits in @h Combat, IF you know what I mean....

*wink* *wink*

chance of domino strike is listed on the equipment sheet if you scroll down

This post has been edited by uth: Sep 21 2009, 03:43

At 46.90 prof I have 34.4%, but then I'm lower level and you definitely have more str and dex than I do. I've noticed an increase of about 1% chance every 3 or so points though.

Never even looked at where uth pointed me to.


My stats read a 35.2% chance to D-strike. Guess I 'overguesstimated.' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)


Can't tell you what I did besides Prof Level in 2H to get 'better' than you at it....but as you can see from my previous posting, it probably ain't the Stats that are giving me the advantage -and if they do have anything to do with it, any such D-strike % increases from raising them must be coming verrrrrrrry slowly.

Well yea, but how much dex and str you have, including from equipment and artifact bonuses? I have a grand total of 57 strength and 61 dex...

Well yea, but how much dex and str you have, including from equipment and artifact bonuses? I have a grand total of 57 strength and 61 dex...

69 Str, 57 Dex.......

I tried using a staff for the first time in a grindfest. At this moment I am still in said grindfest at round 92. Since I have a slow computer and I still want to do the arenas each day, I will probably end it once I get to round 100 or so, but for a certain weapon build to allow me to go up to round 100 without much difficulty is amazing. I don't know how useful this sort of build would be in the arena since damage output is rather low, but on cake this works just marvelously.

after training the hell out of my cure and suppo profs i've had some limited success with a staff in the arenas. however, its not nearly as fast as a 2-hander, and not nearly as reliable as a 1h + shield for me yet, as for a long time i entirely neglected my offensive profs and my int. im attemptin to remedy the situation at the moment, and i can see things working out better once i can add some punch from spells to the defensive battlestick lineup i've been running.

at least until i can manage some more respectable damage, my battlestick is only for cakefest. but if i can pull my magic out of the mud, maybe i can move up a bit in the world. still, it currently works splendidly for a festival of cake.

Sadly, even with my rather decent 2h and with my 1h and shield...,my DW is still better in arena...With my 2h I have to use a fairly decent amount of pots on even a new beginning, much less higher, while with dw it took blazing field to make me use a set of 6 average pots...If I tried Blazing Field with my 2h or 1h+shield I have a fairly good reason to believe I would die before even the final round, simply cause I was only able to live cause I was able to hit the enemy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

And the only Bleed Wep that I currently own:


If those Weps really do start to do serious DMG after a while, I'd really like to know where I'm going wrong; I'd definitely settle for a 2H with decent bleed (I now get a LOT of Domino Hits) over a Penetrated Armor Proc.....

I don't think you're ever going to get a huge amount of damage out of that axe. Like I said, it's all in the weapon:

Fine Titanium Longsword of Slaughter
Weapon Damage Type Slashing
Hit Proc: 26% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 6 (5) turns / Damage: 144 (97) per tick
Attack Damage Multiplier 24.7 (20.3)
Attack Accuracy Bonus 10.1 (9.9)
Burden 21.9
Interference 15.3
Primary Attribute Bonuses
Strength 0.6 (0.4) Dexterity 0.6 (0.4)
Level 96 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon

I'd be very surprised if there's a a 1H weapon out there that does anything like that kind of damage.

PS If anyone's interested, 58 STR, 57 DEX and 40.93 2H prof gives me 33.9% chance of a domino strike.

well, i'm quickly being converted to the ways of the zweihander.

it's not quite as efficient as a staff, but it kills shit 4x faster. time ta get agrindan on my 2h prof.

Bleeding is affected by your weapon damage mod it seems. I have a shortsword that has 200ish equipment window bleed damage, but it does 350 per tick in battle.

From what I've noticed, only daggers or low quality shortswords have under 75 equipment window bleed damage

I've been playing around with one of my @h Bleed Weps that I've picked up in the Bazaar, and it seems to me (I'm not at all sure) that STR, not Proc, is the key to getting more DMG out of the Bleed.


My 2H Proficiency is pretty much stalled/maxed out, and it is only my STR that has changed greatly in a while.

Even so, I'm only getting a 2 point DMG increase from my Wep (went from 104 to 106 a tick) -and this is from a tremendous increase to my STR (about a 5 point gain to that Stat since last we spoke).

Maybe my overall Power has something to do with how much extra DMG I can get from a Bleed (BTW, my window stat says that I am supposed to get only about 85 per tick out of a possible 116 when I fully reach the level of the Wep)....or maybe I need to be much closer to my Wep's Level, and this is some sort of Penalty that can't be easily calculated with only the Stats that are visible to the naked eye.


EDIT:
Then again, I do have an incredible, mind-boggling amount of Burden and Interference, and Tenboro has this to say about that:

I've already commented on that, and it's either that or not allowing below-level equips at all. Burden and Interference scales to offset the Proficiency decrease of the same, so scaling to a lower level affects everything, including those two.

Which leads me to ask you guys with really high Bleed Overdamage Amounts: What are your respective Interferences and Burdens??

I'm not sure of what my Burden is (currently stuck in Grind), but I know that my Interference is at least 100.

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This post has been edited by Thanos008: Sep 23 2009, 22:55

I read this post a couple days ago, and decided to try 2-h w/ bleed proc. I'm new to the game so I only do grindfest and the arena thats open to me. I use a Fine Diamond Longsword of Slaughter (20% chance of BW with a duration of 5 turns (3 because of lvl) and 354dmg (66 because of lvl)

My Melee accuracy: 78.29% according to battle buddy, I was wondering if I should get some equipment that has +attack accuracy bonus (I've only see it on cloth). I use full heavy right now and typically do my arena daily and grindfest often.

Should I replace a few heavy with cloth that has +accuracy, and is there +accuracy on light/heavy?

+acc only shows on silk and phase cloth armor

if you find nice phase armor, by all means, use it. it has very high evade and reasonable stats, plus no burden. Not necessary though, I have a sword near identical to yours and i run 3 heavy, 1 phase and 1 light. don't let your dex lag behind and you'll be fine. I think you'll enjoy the 2hander, I've climbed up to 43% domino strikes and its great fun to see near the entire board light up with bleed damage and fall over dead in a few turns.

I use Dual Wielding because my shield wasn't that hot. If I find an awesome one, I might go back to 1h+shield. In the main hand, I have the faster weapon + Bleeding Wound effect. The offhand weapon really trigggers less often.

I've found a renewed appreciation for shields after getting an equipment upgrade.

10 2 You block the attack from Scary Ghost.
10 1 You hit Amphibious Sperm Whale for 376 slashing damage.
9 9 You block the attack from Tentacle Monster.
9 8 Tentacle Monster casts Horrible Rape
9 7 You block the attack from Cockatrice.
9 6 You block the attack from Amphibious Sperm Whale.
9 5 Amphibious Sperm Whale casts Bukkake
9 4 You block the attack from Scary Ghost.
9 3 Rabid Hamster has been defeated.
9 2 You hit Rabid Hamster for 414 slashing damage.
9 1 You gain 0.03 points of one-handed weapon proficiency.
8 7 You block the attack from Cockatrice.
8 6 You block the attack from Rabid Hamster.