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I need some general help again. I only recently hit level 30, and I got the shield ability, but from my experience it doesn't seem to be worth it. It lasts for 15 turns, but the amount of damage it blocks is negligible. It also costs about 1/12th of my total MP, points that seem to be better for Weaken or Heal. Shield for me costs 7, Weaken costs 5, and Heal costs 8. Even with big mobs it doesn't seem to help enough to cast as opposed to saving the points for a heal spell. However I have heard people praise its uses on various topics. When does shield actually become beneficial?

you're not using shield on cake are you? D:

otherwise it's pretty worth it once you get your supportive proficiency up

I need some general help again. I only recently hit level 30, and I got the shield ability, but from my experience it doesn't seem to be worth it. It lasts for 15 turns, but the amount of damage it blocks is negligible. It also costs about 1/12th of my total MP, points that seem to be better for Weaken or Heal. Shield for me costs 7, Weaken costs 5, and Heal costs 8. Even with big mobs it doesn't seem to help enough to cast as opposed to saving the points for a heal spell. However I have heard people praise its uses on various topics. When does shield actually become beneficial?

I'm guessing that your supportive proficiency is crap. As with anything else, it's more useful when the proficiency is closer to your level.

That said, shield is 1-to-1 less effective than weaken. However, it has the advantage of working against all enemies at once.

when your proficiency is high enough, you will use it every single round or else you gonna get raped.

Yes, my proficiency right now is... about 3. I might want to train it to at least 10 before even trying to use it normally, huh? As it is I don't think I'll try the arena challenge I just lost until I can use it well. My guess is that once you get to the final rounds, with a high enough proficiency using Shield and then only weakening the most threatening enemies is the way to go.

@Tenb: is it safe to assume the chance for a spell to fail by interference happens before the chance for it to be resisted?

@Tenb: is it safe to assume the chance for a spell to fail by interference happens before the chance for it to be resisted?

I'm pretty sure this is the case. In that regard, I don't recall ever getting proficiency on spells that fail by interference, but I've gotten proficiency on resisted spells.

Kinda weird that we get them when they're resisted (not complaining).

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 13 2009, 07:54

I need some general help again. I only recently hit level 30, and I got the shield ability, but from my experience it doesn't seem to be worth it. It lasts for 15 turns, but the amount of damage it blocks is negligible. It also costs about 1/12th of my total MP, points that seem to be better for Weaken or Heal. Shield for me costs 7, Weaken costs 5, and Heal costs 8. Even with big mobs it doesn't seem to help enough to cast as opposed to saving the points for a heal spell. However I have heard people praise its uses on various topics. When does shield actually become beneficial?

In my observation, NONE of the Spells are supposed to be the end-all and be-all of Defense, Support, or Negative Status Effects on the Enemy.

The Shield Spell like all the others, is a help in its own way, not some super-Savior magic -and yes, it does help you, even at your level -the effects just aren't as pronounced as you might want them to be.

They will save your life, though -just wait 'til those beasties start hitting harder and you start running into Bosses in ordinary Battles; you'll be grateful for every little bit of help you can get.

@Tenb: is it safe to assume the chance for a spell to fail by interference happens before the chance for it to be resisted?

Not that it affects the final chance of the spell landing, but yes.

Hi Tenb,

This morning i had about 41-42ish supportive prof. and with that shield cast absorbed 10.5 points.
I checked again when i got to 43 supportive prof and the shield went down to 10 points.

Is that some glitch or did you just lower the %?
Can you fix it?

Thanks.

Hi Tenb,

This morning i had about 41-42ish supportive prof. and with that shield cast absorbed 10.5 points.
I checked again when i got to 43 supportive prof and the shield went down to 10 points.

Is that some glitch or did you just lower the %?
Can you fix it?

Thanks.

you probably increased your interference by changing equipment?

you probably increased your interference by changing equipment?

Wow, you are right. That sucks so much that you get weakend like this when you put on better equipment.

My unassigned exp from referrals doesn't seem to have risen since this update, is that a bug or intentional?

By the way, why does training of one level of Adept Learner still only take 5 seconds?

well looks like its back to an hour....

Well, it looks like the HV is frozen right now, so maybe that means that 0.3.7 can't be far behind.


I wonder what dream-crushing, teeth-gnashing, costly deviltry Tenb has cooked up for us this time?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

well looks like its back to an hour....

Whoever told Tenboro go die (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

This post has been edited by Eutopia: Sep 13 2009, 19:35

Well, it looks like the HV is frozen right now, so maybe that means that 0.3.7 can't be far behind.
I wonder what dream-crushing, teeth-gnashing, costly deviltry Tenb has cooked up for us this time?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

working fine for me

working fine for me

Thanks for the info.

Guess it's time for me to go to the Help Desk, since the rest of my Internet appears to be working just fine and at normal speed.


This post has been edited by Thanos008: Sep 13 2009, 19:46

Has anyone tried ability resetting after receiving ability points from offering artifacts? You keep the points after resetting, right? Would suck if you didn't :P

Just curious if the artifacts are affected by the loot quality cap, or if they're completely random aside from training archaeologist. I'm sure this has been stated somewhere, but I currently don't have the time to weasel through the forum to find information.