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Yeah, i didn't really figured out how does silence falls into the equation, cause when you hit silenced monster the silence cancels and he is free to gut you and hang your skin on his trophy wall. Weren't they talking about a mob?
I am talking simply 1 on 1.

WTF are you talking about? Silence lasts for as many turns as your supportive proficiency makes it last. SLEEP will fail if you whack them, but silence lasts until it runs out. Goddamn.

SLEEP will fail if you whack them

Not always, depending on how many points you have in Sleep.

Not always, depending on how many points you have in Sleep.

True. I was more trying to get the point across to lunatic that he had it wrong.

And there you have it. It's cause even though my current rapier is a pos in stats, the armor piercing on it alone makes it better than my other weps, which, other than the lack of armor piercing, are superior. That said it only has an 11% chance for 2 turns....and even if I had the creds to buy a better one there's never one in the bazaar ><

And you've got competition in terms of someone scouring the Bazaar for a better Penetrated Armor Weapon.

That Proc is, for all intents and purposes, a guaranteed Critical -and when you combine it with the Overwhelming Strikes Proc.....whoa Nelly!!

(Personally, I've gotten over 400 dmg with a combined Proc/Crit strike, thus far....and I still have a ways to go in terms of leveling up to my Weapon....)

Not always, depending on how many points you have in Sleep.

To deviate even more, how many points do you think that I can start hitting Sleeping mobs without waking them up?

the 15.9% is what it showed in the menu, I would actually see closer to double that amount, but now I'm 1h shield for survivability...

Then that's crazy crockpot, I'm half your proficiency in DW and I get only 2% less from the menu and it procs at 8%, so how much more Dex and Agi should I need lol.

Tenb! I forgot to address this two updates ago, what's up with the name Montage as a AFK skill trainer? I mean from my point of view the name makes no sense, as a "montage" is basically a set-up something put up together, a video edition, etc. Yes I do mean the fact that it's a French word, and since you're definitely a intelligible person, I'd like to know what's the idea behind the name~

This post has been edited by Ido013: Sep 7 2009, 23:57

I'm pretty sure they mentioned this in the thread... but you need 1) silence to prevent rape. 2) spark of life to prevent rape 3) absorb to prevent rape.

[Blazing Saddles]

"Why'd you say 'rape' so many times?!?"


"I like rape."

[/Blazing Saddles]

[Blazing Saddles]

"Why'd you say 'rape' so many times?!?"
"I like rape."

[/Blazing Saddles]

In order for you, to notice that you either get raped or you have those three spells, if you like, then don't bother getting them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

To deviate even more, how many points do you think that I can start hitting Sleeping mobs without waking them up?

Its kinda random with the hitting mobs and them not waking up sometimes they do sometimes they don't from my experience, I've only ever used sleep with 5 points in it cause otherwise its just way too short, but even then sometimes they would wake up from an aoe, the next turn and other times they wouldn't, so its not really something you can count on.

and lunatic2 silence is an ability you get at 70 so you don't have it, so basically your SOL if you run into a legendary

[Blazing Saddles]

"Why'd you say 'rape' so many times?!?"
"I like rape."

[/Blazing Saddles]

2nd Mel Brooks reference of the day. I love this forum.

To deviate even more, how many points do you think that I can start hitting Sleeping mobs without waking them up?

Each point reduces the risk of monsters waking up by 10 % (for a maximum of 50 %), so it will always be a gamble.

To deviate even more, how many points do you think that I can start hitting Sleeping mobs without waking them up?

I think this is how it currently works:

- Sleep and Confuse now have a base 90% chance to break the spell when the target takes damage. Each additional ability point strengthens the spell and reduces this chance by 10%, to a maximum of 50%.

So, to add my 2 cents to the debate. I tried Cakefest with three different combinations of equipment:

1. Heavy armour, shield + dagger
2. Heavy armour + longsword (with Bleeding Wound proc)
3. Low interference (Mostly cloth, a piece of light armour, "Battlecaster" shield and club)

Same items each time (crude/lesser mana). Setup 1 previously allowed me to go 199 rounds. Setup 2 reduced my survivability a bit, but was more interesting to play. Setup 3 gave me less than 20 rounds the last time I bothered with it.

This time I got 20+ rounds regardless of what I was using. Of course, there are a lot of variables in there, but I'd say that looks roughly balanced.

I did get the impression the monsters were doing more damage though...

Tenb! I forgot to address this two updates ago, what's up with the name Montage as a AFK skill trainer?

It's a reference to shitty 80's sports movies that typically had a training montage before the big final climactic scene where the protagonist may, or may not, win. Think Rocky, Eye of the Tiger.

It's a reference to shitty 80's sports movies that typically had a training montage before the big final climactic scene where the protagonist may, or may not, win. Think Rocky, Eye of the Tiger.

And I bet you that Tenboro was actually referring to the 45-second Intensive Training Session from "Team America; World Police," and the song entitled "You Gotta Do It in a Montage" (where The Hero goes from almost completely unskilled to master Assassin in about a minute, making fun of all those 0-to-60 montages that you often see in action/fighting movies).




Tenboro, which one of us is right??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

About this niggle:

There's still something a little funny about Focus and Defend. I can't replicate the problem every time (it seems to depend on what's been used earlier in the battle), but it goes something like this:

1. Click "Magic"
2. Changed my mind. Click "Magic" again to deselect it.
3. Click "Focus"
4. It fails to proc, and "Stop beating dead horses" appears in the battle log. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Neither Focus nor Defend will then work no matter how many times I try them... until I do something like cast Weaken, after which they start working again.

Seems the bit about clicking Magic twice was a red herring. I just had it happen again and AFAIK I didn't do anything odd beforehand. Then I tried a few rounds of Grindfest and couldn't duplicate it no matter what I did.


Another slight oddity:

If you click one of the Quickbar icons twice, the selection is cancelled. BUT the Magic menu remains open and the description of the spell is still displayed. It might look like it's going to cast Inferno, but what you actually get is Magic Missile...

@Sayo: ALWAYS assume you're going to get magic missile in that sort of situation.

@Tenb:

31 10 You are Victorious!
31 9 Effect Penetrated Armor on Cockatrice has expired.
31 8 Effect Weakened on Cockatrice has expired.
31 7 Effect Silenced on Cockatrice has expired.
31 6 Spreading Poison hits Cockatrice for 7 damage.
31 5 Cockatrice has been defeated.

@Sayo: ALWAYS assume you're going to get magic missile in that sort of situation.

@Tenb:

31 10 You are Victorious!
31 9 Effect Penetrated Armor on Cockatrice has expired.
31 8 Effect Weakened on Cockatrice has expired.
31 7 Effect Silenced on Cockatrice has expired.
31 6 Spreading Poison hits Cockatrice for 7 damage.
31 5 Cockatrice has been defeated.

Ye GODS that doth suck mightily.


I'm in full Plate Armor (+99 Interference or something like that total) and I only have one point of Ability in Poison and furthermore haven't developed my Depreciative Proficiency in quite some time

......and yet my guy is doing 28 Points of Posion damage!!


Is this some form of arcane deviltry, or is your Dep Magic Prof really really weak (for your level), or what?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Ye GODS that doth suck mightily.
I'm in full Plate Armor (+99 Interference or something like that total) and I only have one point of Ability in Poison and furthermore haven't developed my Depreciative Proficiency in quite some time

......and yet my guy is doing 28 Points of Posion damage!!
Is this some form of arcane deviltry, or is your Dep Magic Prof really really weak (for your level), or what?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Ahhhhh... I think you misunderstood what's going on here. Several things to note.

1. Poison did 7 damage to kill the cockatrice. It's not that it only does 7 damage, just that there was only 7HP left. It's something that's been bugging me for a while, since normal attacks and magic spells can cause damage that goes over the remaining amount of HP a mob has (Tenb knows what I'm saying).

2. The real reason this was posted is because the order of stuff happening is all fucked up.

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 8 2009, 03:22

And I bet you that Tenboro was actually referring to the 45-second Intensive Training Session from "Team America; World Police," and the song entitled "You Gotta Do It in a Montage"(where The Hero goes from almost completely unskilled to master Assassin in about a minute, making fun of all those 0-to-60 montages that you often see in action/fighting movies).

Which was also parodying what I was talking about.

Albeit, yours is more likely the correct one... possibly even then referring to the earlier usage of the song and parody in the South Park episode Asspen (s6e2), but it's all roundabout the same thing.

It's so cute when someone figures this out for the first time.

I don't spend much time on the forums. Mostly because I, admittedly, don't have many useful things to add.

Case in point. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Which was also parodying what I was talking about.

Albeit, yours is more likely the correct one... possibly even then referring to the earlier usage of the song and parody in the South Park episode Asspen (s6e2), but it's all roundabout the same thing.

I've really got a whole lotta catching up to do on S.P. -I can barely remember anything besides the Trapper Keeper episode and the one where Mr. Slave defeated Paris Hilton (?) by anally absorbing her!!


Oh yeah, and the "Smug" episode, too.