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Damn it bring back the credit bonuses! There is no other way for me to make a decent gain with credits right now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I agree. I'm going to have to insist that our credit bonuses are given back to us. Please, Tenboro, please do this for us! It's not fair.

I'm missing a couple thousand credits per day from my dawn event and I can't even train anything anymore because I have to hang on to the credits I've got stored away to buy expensive potions and elixirs. I'm barely breaking even in the arena and now it's even tougher. Some days I come up short from needing to go to the shop all the time to buy items and I cringe whenever I have to use a Mana or Health Elixir in battle.

Please can we have our credits back? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

It's true that Grindfest is much harder after the update, and not just because the mobs can get bigger than before, but I'm still doing much better than I ever did before I could use Cure. I don't mind too much. While Grindfest may be a bit more difficult, I can still handle arenas and encounters quite well. I can handle encounters on Heroic, and I have done up to A New Beginning on Hard.

Before:

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After:

I can't repeat anything listed there, no matter what items or second winds I get. I can't even clear Blazing Field anymore.

This post has been edited by JonG829: Sep 7 2009, 04:28

Which is absolute bullshit. I should be able to choose to play a plate tank and have just as much survivability as a rogue in leather or a paper mage. I've got pretty decent block and my parry is alright. But what's the point of wearing heavy armor if you're still taking that much damage and you can't even fucking cast support spells? When I said this is discrimination against classes, I was half-joking, half-serious. This isn't like your generic MMO were you can party up to make up for class weaknesses. I can't go bug a mage to come and watch my back with heals and buffs while I stand there and tank mobs so he can blast shit with AoE unmolested.

For now, I'm a bit annoyed and hoping things get more balanced when it swings in the other direction.

Which is what I meant by "NO PALADIN" builds anymore.

I agree there should be some form of better credit earnings. The old bonuses were a bit much for some people >_> but earning only 30 or 40 credits after an hourly fight on Nintendo or Battletoads against three mobs is a bit small. Also, the fact that the arena clear bonuses are reduced to the entry cost after beating them 1 time is also a bit disappointing. Not that I can even get as far right now - I'm pretty sure I'm losing 1/3 of my battles right now, at least.

In the past 2 builds since credit bonuses got removed, the best way to gain credits WAS to play cakefest. Over 200 rounds, you'd get 500c in raw gains and anywhere from 500-5,000c in drops. I was fine with that.

Now, I don't even know. No % bonuses, no plate cakefesting, no nothing.

fuck. i started Dark Skies on heroic. Fail. fuck. yeah, whoever suggested a difficulty indicator somewhere on the screen... yeah... yes please.

Rape is rape. I can't even do normal on fresh meat now. D:

This post has been edited by bullpup: Sep 7 2009, 04:45

50 8 You gain 5048 Credits!
50 7 You gain 304.63 EXP!
50 6 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
50 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Scroll of Warding]
50 4 You are Victorious!
...
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #12 (Round 10 / 10) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

Well, least I nailed in on normal, still had half my items left.
Still, my original 2000 credits... come back to me credits, come back. I didn't mean to throw you at heroic, really, I promise.

Couldn't we try %3 credits per aura slotted and see if that starts to work to everyone's advantage in alleviating the pain. I feel that would be a good starting point to just try out, something. Not some crazy amount to print the stuff and flood like crazy, just bring it back at least to a point that noobs like me maybe get a little something to bust out on a rainy day and highbies can stash a bit more away for those massive battle costs.

Even in WoW the good stuff was not free or cheap, even from your mates at the really high levels. Like bread... and water... or like a transmuting stone that needed like a bajillion ethers/elements or whatever.

This post has been edited by Zero Hour: Sep 7 2009, 05:19

I know how we can make things better for us Warriors -or, at least, make life a little harder on the Wizards:

Let's just start making a bunch of Fake Posts telling how we can now go on forever in Grindfest as Mages!!!
That way, Tenboro will be SURE to nerf the Wizards further in the next revision, and probably strengthen the Tanks in the process!!!



(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (J/K) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


This post has been edited by Thanos008: Sep 7 2009, 05:09

Which is what I meant by "NO PALADIN" builds anymore.

And I agreed with you in the post where I quoted you.

I agree. I'm going to have to insist that our credit bonuses are given back to us. Please, Tenboro, please do this for us! It's not fair.

I'm missing a couple thousand credits per day from my dawn event and I can't even train anything anymore because I have to hang on to the credits I've got stored away to buy expensive potions and elixirs. I'm barely breaking even in the arena and now it's even tougher. Some days I come up short from needing to go to the shop all the time to buy items and I cringe whenever I have to use a Mana or Health Elixir in battle.

Please can we have our credits back? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I agree there should be some form of better credit earnings. The old bonuses were a bit much for some people >_> but earning only 30 or 40 credits after an hourly fight on Nintendo or Battletoads against three mobs is a bit small. Also, the fact that the arena clear bonuses are reduced to the entry cost after beating them 1 time is also a bit disappointing. Not that I can even get as far right now - I'm pretty sure I'm losing 1/3 of my battles right now, at least.

In the past 2 builds since credit bonuses got removed, the best way to gain credits WAS to play cakefest. Over 200 rounds, you'd get 500c in raw gains and anywhere from 500-5,000c in drops. I was fine with that.

Now, I don't even know. No % bonuses, no plate cakefesting, no nothing.

Maybe we can have some limited credit bonus? Like one every couple of tiers on the ability tree? Or a tiny one on auras? One or two percent here and there add up.

My recollection is that the big issue with credits bonuses was the Hath exchange laundering. I'm willing to live with the credit bonus applying to everything except GP conversion. With the adjusted rate, that should be no problem at all.

I should be able to choose to play a plate tank and have just as much survivability as a rogue in leather or a paper mage.

The problem was with that build having 10x the survivability. Welcome to the rest of the world that goes 10-20 rounds in Grindfest without items.


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Let's just start making a bunch of Fake Posts telling how we can now go on forever in Grindfest as Mages!!!

The main problem would be explaining how you got your mana back. It's not only less likely to be restored on a Second Wind, but the percent restored is smaller. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by Panuru: Sep 7 2009, 05:13

When the whole thing started, Tenboro kinda did the foot stomp thing about keeing your stats balanced so that you could handle everything. When equipment was introduced, that same type of attitude should have been taken. If you're balanced then when these changes happen, you only feel minimal effect and you can more easily adjust. Take off all the goddamn heavy armor and put on a feather cap and a some cloth underwear. You can still keep the Breastplate of Pure Mercury if you want, but you cant weight 950lbs and expect everything to go swimmingly.

i was well mixed, in mostly cloth and light with very little heavy.

i had to put on alot more heavy armor to do well now. `\(o_O)/`

I'm going full cloth and shield. 15 evade, 20 shield and 10 parry still not cutting the butter for me though. It's fun to just do 10 rds either 2handing or dualies, but it ain't cutting butter.

Maybe we can have some limited credit bonus? Like one every couple of tiers on the ability tree? Or a tiny one on auras? One or two percent here and there add up.

The ability tree was one of the major issues, certain members would reset their tree before mass GP > C conversion to get all the credit abilities active. If the Credit skills were applied similar to how the aura/item abilities and not reset, I would support this. Otherwise, I think mobs should drop a bit more gold, especially the minibosses and higher in random encounters. Only getting 30-40 credits from a 2 reg mobs and 1 Dalek seems a bit cheap.

hell, ya could have it on auras only, no abilities. and have it not effect gp/credit/hath exchanges to prevent money laundering so to say.

but even without that... yeah minibosses are stingy when it comes to credits. bosses too from what you say, although i haven't fought one yet.

but even without that... yeah minibosses are stingy when it comes to credits. bosses too from what you say, although i haven't fought one yet.

I can tell you from my experiences today that Manthra is worth about 2 credits on Cake and about 10 on Hard.

Another suggestion that would help make my day: stop letting the peacock do peck when it only has 1/4 of it's MP.

The ability tree was one of the major issues, certain members would reset their tree before mass GP > C conversion to get all the credit abilities active. If the Credit skills were applied similar to how the aura/item abilities and not reset, I would support this. Otherwise, I think mobs should drop a bit more gold, especially the minibosses and higher in random encounters. Only getting 30-40 credits from a 2 reg mobs and 1 Dalek seems a bit cheap.

True, but you can always sell his voicebox (yet who sells trophies anyways?)