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Jun 12 2010, 21:06
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EvolutionKing
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After getting 2 Tokens of Blood in the past 12 hours or so, this happened:  My normal gear and my same technique = Noodly Appendage So I guess it's time for me to cycle through the Ring of Blood on Hard mode now.
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Jun 12 2010, 22:54
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(EvolutionKing @ Jun 12 2010, 12:06)  After getting 2 Tokens of Blood in the past 12 hours or so, this happened:  My normal gear and my same technique = Noodly Appendage So I guess it's time for me to cycle through the Ring of Blood on Hard mode now. Just be glad that you're not poor ol' Tensaigamoon. At this point in time, he'd probably have to strip his character butt naked and set the FSM difficulty up to Battletoads in order to get a decent challenge these days.....
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Jun 12 2010, 23:42
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Jun 12 2010, 21:54)  Just be glad that you're not poor ol' Tensaigamoon.
At this point in time, he'd probably have to strip his character butt naked and set the FSM difficulty up to Battletoads in order to get a decent challenge these days.....
Sorry if I'm offending you, but sometimes you say stupid things. The last challenge Hito have yet to beat is FSM with Battletoads difficulty, and he's using extremely good gear
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Jun 13 2010, 00:05
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jun 12 2010, 14:42)  Sorry if I'm offending you, but sometimes you say stupid things. The last challenge Hito have yet to beat is FSM with Battletoads difficulty, and he's using extremely good gear You're not offending me........but could you not see that that was just a joke?? (I don't know whether or not English is your first language, because I personally thought that the humor there would be obvious to all who would read it.....especially when they got to the "butt naked" part.)
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Jun 13 2010, 00:17
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Jun 12 2010, 23:05)  You're not offending me........but could you not see that that was just a joke?? (I don't know whether or not English is your first language, because I personally thought that the humor there would be obvious to all who would read it.....especially when they got to the "butt naked" part.)
Well I can clear the lower arenas "butt naked" now lol, but now that I read it again, actually that sound a joke (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 13 2010, 02:02
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kyouri
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Inb4 why so serious?
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Jun 13 2010, 11:59
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Yunigen
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QUOTE(kyouri @ Jun 13 2010, 02:02)  Inb4 why so serious?
your statement would have a greater impact if you placed a crazy clown picture or something... *looks at avatar* By the way, would anyone know the diffuculty curve experienced from IPU to FSM? So far, I've managed to defeat everyone weaker than FSM as a pure mage (for RL and IPU, I used mana elixirs, 1-2 scroll of the gods, infusion of Gaia, but never the 1000 credit worth items since its a bit costly) but judging from the credit prize in killing it, I was wondering if it would be far more difficult than the two previous gods... This post has been edited by Yunigen: Jun 13 2010, 12:21
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Jun 13 2010, 12:54
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Yunigen @ Jun 13 2010, 10:59)  By the way, would anyone know the diffuculty curve experienced from IPU to FSM? So far, I've managed to defeat everyone weaker than FSM as a pure mage (for RL and IPU, I used mana elixirs, 1-2 scroll of the gods, infusion of Gaia, but never the 1000 credit worth items since its a bit costly) but judging from the credit prize in killing it, I was wondering if it would be far more difficult than the two previous gods...
Depend of how much mana elixirs did use use against IPU, FSM just have about the double HP, hit a little harder, and have a little more mitigation, but at your level the gods already reached the speed action cap, so FSM have the same speed than IPU. If you didn't do it yet, look at wiki for some infoThis post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 13 2010, 12:55
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Jun 13 2010, 16:22
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kyouri
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Mikuru got anal'd harder, I guess my penis grew since my last encounter with Konata. 55 9 You gain 25164 Credits! 55 8 You gain 1249.82 EXP! 55 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 55 6 Arena Token Bonus! Received:[Token of Blood] 55 5 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:[Godly Health Draught] 55 4 Mikuru Asahina dropped [Bunny-Girl Costume] 55 3 You are Victorious! 55 2 Mikuru Asahina has been defeated. 55 1 You unleash Surprise Buttsecks on Mikuru Asahina for 69628 soul damage. +1 soul stone = 20k dmg LOL (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Forgot infusion again -____-, try to remember next time... This post has been edited by kyouri: Jun 13 2010, 16:25
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Jun 13 2010, 17:10
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BlorgAlmighty
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And I've yet to start on Mikuru. o_O
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Jun 13 2010, 17:30
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE And I've yet to start on Mikuru. o_O There's no rush. Prize money/token of blood aren't going to disappear. Leveling up before trying helps you save items/credits. Kyouri at least used 3k worth (soul stone, flower vase, bubblegum). Though... it is very tempting to 1 hit ko legendaries. Maybe I'll do that with real life (weak to soul).
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Jun 13 2010, 17:46
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jun 13 2010, 16:30)  There's no rush. Prize money/token of blood aren't going to disappear. Leveling up before trying helps you save items/credits. Kyouri at least used 3k worth (soul stone, flower vase, bubblegum). Though... it is very tempting to 1 hit ko legendaries. Maybe I'll do that with real life (weak to soul).
Even if you have OC boost maxed, you'll need 3 or 4 soul stones, and there's no guarantee that's enough...
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Jun 13 2010, 21:36
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kyouri
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Wow 3-4 soul stones on top of maxed OC, I have a long way to go then ):
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Jun 13 2010, 21:54
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE Wow 3-4 soul stones on top of maxed OC, I have a long way to go then ): Meaning 4-5 soul stones without maxed OC...
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Jun 13 2010, 22:17
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Yunigen
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jun 13 2010, 12:54)  Depend of how much mana elixirs did use use against IPU, FSM just have about the double HP, hit a little harder, and have a little more mitigation, but at your level the gods already reached the speed action cap, so FSM have the same speed than IPU. If you didn't do it yet, look at wiki for some infoThx. I used approximately 6 mana elixirs, so that would mean I would be a little bit in the borderline when fighting FSM (since ive got 13 slots, and since you said it has twice the hp, I'm a little inclined to believe it would take me 2x the effort to defeat it when compared to IPU).
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Jun 14 2010, 00:27
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(Yunigen @ Jun 13 2010, 02:59) 
your statement would have a greater impact if you placed a crazy clown picture or something... *looks at avatar*
By the way, would anyone know the diffuculty curve experienced from IPU to FSM? So far, I've managed to defeat everyone weaker than FSM as a pure mage (for RL and IPU, I used mana elixirs, 1-2 scroll of the gods, infusion of Gaia, but never the 1000 credit worth items since its a bit costly) but judging from the credit prize in killing it, I was wondering if it would be far more difficult than the two previous gods... To add to what cmdct said, if you';re used to just wearing "Ordinary" Armors and taking your lumps against Real Life and Invisible Pink Unicorn, I'd strongly advise against doing that. Go out and buy yourself a full set of Spirit Ward gear if you can -FSM hits even harder than IPU and with his nearly double HP count, I don't think that you could stand it over the long haul unless you were in the best Heavy Armor you could put on -and even then, your massive Burden might end up being more trouble than it's worth. (I went with not only all Spirit Ward Armor, but it was also almost all Cloth. Would you like to borrow the set? With it, I was only getting hit for a measly 300 points per successful attack landed [68.5% Dark Mitigation]; you should be able to squeeze even better out of it. PM me if you're interested and if you can't buy a better full set from cmal's shop.) This post has been edited by Thanos008: Jun 14 2010, 00:29
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Jun 14 2010, 01:44
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Yunigen
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Jun 14 2010, 00:27)  To add to what cmdct said, if you';re used to just wearing "Ordinary" Armors and taking your lumps against Real Life and Invisible Pink Unicorn, I'd strongly advise against doing that.
Go out and buy yourself a full set of Spirit Ward gear if you can -FSM hits even harder than IPU and with his nearly double HP count, I don't think that you could stand it over the long haul unless you were in the best Heavy Armor you could put on -and even then, your massive Burden might end up being more trouble than it's worth.
(I went with not only all Spirit Ward Armor, but it was also almost all Cloth. Would you like to borrow the set? With it, I was only getting hit for a measly 300 points per successful attack landed [68.5% Dark Mitigation]; you should be able to squeeze even better out of it. PM me if you're interested and if you can't buy a better full set from cmal's shop.)
Hmm, I think i'll have to kindly decline your offer... I killed IPU using my normal gear without the use of armor which reduces the magical attack of the gods (since I weaken them instead of silencing them). As for the soul damage, I tend to rely on the grace of my evade 45% (although I'm not sure if one can evade magic), resist 18%, and absorption. If all else fails, my spark activates... Am I beating them in a strange way? I've never actually tried silencing the gods, and hence am not sure what type of attacks it stops (although I can already guess its the spirit right?).
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Jun 14 2010, 01:47
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE hence am not sure what type of attacks it stops Spirit and magic... hence you only have to deal with 40/30% of their normal attack.
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Jun 14 2010, 02:06
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(Yunigen @ Jun 13 2010, 16:44) 
Hmm, I think i'll have to kindly decline your offer... I killed IPU using my normal gear without the use of armor which reduces the magical attack of the gods (since I weaken them instead of silencing them). That's precisely what I mean -I too can "easily" kill IPU and everyone before him in my regular Armor. But it still cost quite a lot in terms of Items, and I don't think that just because FSM has twice the HP of IPU that you'll only be spending twice the items -someone could correct me, but IIRC FSM hits a whole lot harder than IPU. (IPU isn't "hard" for me in terms of difficulty, he's "hard" in terms of Potion/Elixir expense, otherwise I'd be fighting him every single time I gathered up another 3 Blood Tokens. In stead, since they offer the same tier of reward in the Shrine, I just fight Real Life in regular armor, instead, every time I get 3 tokens. She's child's play now.) QUOTE As for the soul damage, I tend to rely on the grace of my evade 45% (although I'm not sure if one can evade magic), resist 18%, and absorption. If all else fails, my spark activates...
Am I beating them in a strange way? I've never actually tried silencing the gods, and hence am not sure what type of attacks it stops (although I can already guess its the spirit right?). I haven't fought the monster enough times to tell you how often it uses its Spirit Attack once its charged up, so I can't tell you how well a Life-Spark strategy will work with its doubled amount of HP compared to IPU. The one time before the other day, several weeks ago, when I went after FSM just to scope him out, I went in with a setup similar to yours -my best Evade set is at 41% Evade and 19% resist. I didn't live long enough to see how hard his "Special-but-not-Spirit" attacks hit for (I evaded them), but his Spirit Attack hit me for 29,000 points of damage (I forgot to cast "Silence"), so I'm not all that sure just how well "Weaken" and "Bewilder" will help you against his lesser Magical/Special Attacks. In any event, the door's still open for you if you ever want to borrow that SW gear....I hope that your current setup works just fine for you but it's really not a bother if you decide you want to try my stuff out. Good luck!
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Jun 14 2010, 02:33
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Yunigen @ Jun 14 2010, 00:44)  Hmm, I think i'll have to kindly decline your offer... I killed IPU using my normal gear without the use of armor which reduces the magical attack of the gods (since I weaken them instead of silencing them). As for the soul damage, I tend to rely on the grace of my evade 45% (although I'm not sure if one can evade magic), resist 18%, and absorption. If all else fails, my spark activates...
Am I beating them in a strange way? I've never actually tried silencing the gods, and hence am not sure what type of attacks it stops (although I can already guess its the spirit right?).
QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jun 14 2010, 00:47)  Spirit and magic... hence you only have to deal with 40/30% of their normal attack.
Ok just to clear some things, and concluding Thanos008's explanation. First evade, like the name evade all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (normal/special/spirit, and physical/magical attacks) 2nd-dark mitigation, mitigate the dark damage by %, if you have 40%, you only get 60% of damage each hit.(normal/special/spirit, and physical/magical attacks) 3rd- Only FSM normal/special attacks are dark, the spirit attack is soul and you can't survive it once you get hit (even bewilder you get a damage far superior to your max HP) Now Yunigen, you don't really need the dark mitigation gear but you're better with it, only trading for holy boost gear can be good. Why? I have +47% evade with silk, but with my special gear I have +70,7% dark mitigation plus +22,9% evade, so you see the difference? Anyways, you're in a high level, so I suggest if you're gonna still use your silk, get 1 or 2 mitigation pieces, and try to get +40 dark mitigation, that should be enough for you to save enough mana elixirs, and that's important, since you're gonna get hit more often by Puff of logic, so having space for spirits elixirs instead of using last elixirs are always nice. Also just an advice you can use bewilder+absorb, bewilder to assure absorb always catch Puff of logic 75% of times, saving SP.
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