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Well I juts challenged manbearpig in the ROB and it sweeped the floor with me even with Weaken. I couldnt even trigger PA.

Now I lost my token of blood and fell like crying

Well I juts challenged manbearpig in the ROB and it sweeped the floor with me even with Weaken. I couldnt even trigger PA.

Now I lost my token of blood and fell like crying

Did it hit you with Global Warming? That thing can and does kill me if I don't have Spark up. Maybe you should keep some scrolls of Life on hand to use when his Overcharge gauge is full. Also, poisoning him slows its regen rate, so you would not have to bring/use as many.
If you post more details about the strategy you employed, more detailed advice could be given.

Question for Tens (I'd PM you but you are either blocking pms from me, from everyone, or your inbox is full):
Have you managed to beat the IPU without an ethereal weapon? I'll try at 150, but it would be nice to know if the trail has been blazed. I'll do it regardless because I'm not stooping to borrowing eth weapons from people.

Believe it or not, I just tried IPU for the first time yesterday in the Ring of Blood. I only have one Ethereal weapon but it's totally worthless so I never use it. And yeah, I don't want to borrow one from anyone, either.

I got halfway through it with my regular weapons/equipment. All I used was Mana Elixirs and a couple of Infusions of Gaia (like I normally do with all of them). It ate up my spirit bar toward the end so I'm wondering if I bring a Spirit Elixir or two with me if that would make a difference and keep me alive longer.

Oh, and since I was experimenting, I stopped using Silence on it and used Weaken instead (and Poison and X-Nerf) and I survived for a long time til it killed me off due to lack of spirit.

Well I juts challenged manbearpig in the ROB and it sweeped the floor with me even with Weaken. I couldnt even trigger PA.

Now I lost my token of blood and fell like crying

You pick wrong opponent in the first try.
Manbearpig is the strongest among the 4 boss.
Try to do a little research if you don't want another loss of token (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Where should I research?

Where should I research?

Here? (This isn't actually a question, so don't answer it)

This post has been edited by Boggyb: Jan 11 2010, 21:25

Oh, right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I tough maybe the wiki, but doesnt provide stats nor anything

I tough maybe the wiki, but doesnt provide stats nor anything

Hmmm... I might add something about strategies for beating Bosses/Legendaries/Godlies to the wiki at some point in the future, but one of the reason there are no stats is because we do not know them. And I'm not sure how helpful they would be even if you knew them.

Allright

What exactly make manbearpig strong among the 4 bosses? and which of them is the weakest?

Believe it or not, I just tried IPU for the first time yesterday in the Ring of Blood. I only have one Ethereal weapon but it's totally worthless so I never use it. And yeah, I don't want to borrow one from anyone, either.

I got halfway through it with my regular weapons/equipment. All I used was Mana Elixirs and a couple of Infusions of Gaia (like I normally do with all of them). It ate up my spirit bar toward the end so I'm wondering if I bring a Spirit Elixir or two with me if that would make a difference and keep me alive longer.

Oh, and since I was experimenting, I stopped using Silence on it and used Weaken instead (and Poison and X-Nerf) and I survived for a long time til it killed me off due to lack of spirit.

If you have a decent amount of holy mitigation its significantly easier to just silence him, having to keep spark up is a pretty huge mana drain. And even if the Ethereal you have seems pretty crappy its still probably better to use it then trying it with infusions, I don't think you'll have enough item slots to last long enough to kill him if your using half of them on infusions.

Allright

What exactly make manbearpig strong among the 4 bosses? and which of them is the weakest?

At your level I'm pretty sure that all the bosses spirit attacks can 1 shot you. So regardless of which one you choose to fight your going to need scrolls of life. The only reason Manbearpig is slightly more threatening is that his spirit attack is magic based (cast) which means you need to have bewilder up to even have a chance of living through it, but personally I think all the bosses are pretty much even on difficulty as long as you keep depreciating up.

This post has been edited by uth: Jan 11 2010, 22:31

Believe it or not, I just tried IPU for the first time yesterday in the Ring of Blood. I only have one Ethereal weapon but it's totally worthless so I never use it. And yeah, I don't want to borrow one from anyone, either.

I got halfway through it with my regular weapons/equipment. All I used was Mana Elixirs and a couple of Infusions of Gaia (like I normally do with all of them). It ate up my spirit bar toward the end so I'm wondering if I bring a Spirit Elixir or two with me if that would make a difference and keep me alive longer.

Oh, and since I was experimenting, I stopped using Silence on it and used Weaken instead (and Poison and X-Nerf) and I survived for a long time til it killed me off due to lack of spirit.

I carried out a little information gathering mission against the IPU myself, with Infusions of Darkness and Gaia, and found it's a lot weaker against Dark. My hits did over twice as much damage with Darkness as they did with Gaia. The trouble is, the Infusion of Darkness only lasts half as long...

I just tried IPU with my crappy Ethereal and that was a complete waste of time. I put a tiny dent in it after clicking over and over and not getting anywhere and then it killed me off. I used some Infusions of Darkness and a Spirit Elixir.

The Spirit Elixir really helped and I might use those when I try it again with my normal setup. I got halfway through it on my first attempt with just the Mana Elixirs and Infusions of Gaia and that's not bad. Like I said, I ran out of spirit. I guess I could also put some points into my dark magic thingies on my ability page and use those if I really wanted to.

You pick wrong opponent in the first try.
Manbearpig is the strongest among the 4 boss.
Try to do a little research if you don't want another loss of token (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't know why people keep saying this... they are all pretty much the same, and a far cry from their former glory at that. If anything, MBP is physically the weakest, and the only reason anyone could possibly think he's the strongest is if you sat there and let him wail on you without using any depreciating, supportive, or scrolls.

I think the main problem might be that lower level people are not making the distinction between magical and physical Magic and Spirit attacks when preparing to fight bosses and legendaries.

I don't know why people keep saying this... they are all pretty much the same, and a far cry from their former glory at that. If anything, MBP is physically the weakest, and the only reason anyone could possibly think he's the strongest is if you sat there and let him wail on you without using any depreciating, supportive, or scrolls.

I think the reason is because Global Warming is the only of the bosses spirit attacks that is pretty much a guaranteed 1-hit kill at that level. At least I think it was.

I survived a Global Warming when I fought MBP at lvl 50. However, I had maxed HP tanks, and GW hit me for 90% of my HP bar, non-crit. So it's definitely survivable without Spark from a scroll, but IMO it's worth bringing a Scroll of the Gods/Life just in case it does crit. Also, all the other boss's spirit attacks were noticeably weaker than MBP's, but that's probably because they're all physical attacks affected by Weaken. White Bunneh's "Awwww" skill, though, was very nasty.

Keeping Weaken, Poison, and Slow (if you have the AP for it) on bosses at all times is the real key. Poison and Slow combined make their spirit rise so slowly that they might die before they even gets a chance to use their spirit attack. Weaken totally nerfs all the rest of MBP's damage, so only Global Warming is really scary. And a scroll for Spark will ensure you survive it.

You'll definitely want a reasonably decent rapier, though, since PA makes a huge difference in the damage from Poison and spirit attacks (if you use the all out spirit attacks strategy).

@Tens: When you say you used your regular weapons/equipment, did you not put on a high Holy Resist gearset?

This post has been edited by coredumperror: Jan 12 2010, 02:51

I don't know why people keep saying this... they are all pretty much the same, and a far cry from their former glory at that. If anything, MBP is physically the weakest, and the only reason anyone could possibly think he's the strongest is if you sat there and let him wail on you without using any depreciating, supportive, or scrolls.

I think the main problem might be that lower level people are not making the distinction between magical and physical Magic and Spirit attacks when preparing to fight bosses and legendaries.

As Boggyb said, I consider MBP is the strongest because it has 1-hit-kill, other 3 is not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


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I assume you're using weaken? The other three should be just as powerful, but their spirit attacks are cut in half by weaken. MBP is magic so you need bewilder.

@Tens: When you say you used your regular weapons/equipment, did you not put on a high Holy Resist gearset?

Nope, the only special thing I have on are Greaves that have 22.07 dark damage on them.

Nope, the only special thing I have on are Greaves that have 22.07 dark damage on them.

Wow, how hard was he hitting you? Taking no holy resist in against him seems like a bad idea. When I attempted him for real yesterday, he was hitting at least as hard as Real Life, and I had 80% holy resist!

For those who are interested in my IPU attempt... it didn't go well. I simply take too much damage, and don't deal enough, to erase his 307000 HP (!!) before I run out of Mana Elixirs. I'm gonna give him a break for a bit, while I look for better holy resist gear and continue improving my proficiencies (which are way behind my level, since I've been leveling so fast).

I assume you're using weaken? The other three should be just as powerful, but their spirit attacks are cut in half by weaken. MBP is magic so you need bewilder.

How can I survive without Weaken (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)