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[Discussion] Abby's auctions, Back in business shortly with auction #161 |
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Jan 2 2018, 21:10
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 2 2018, 20:06)  ...
Yeah, open up the pieces several millions worth to everyone, or the seller (and you too, clearly) will lose out a lot on it. I'd say that the quick bid on such a high value item shouldn't even be there, too. Ps: Clearly in case of such items, you'd better announce it in the auction title or it will get overlooked. This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Jan 2 2018, 21:14
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Jan 2 2018, 21:24
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KitsuneAbby
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Maybe I should just open bids to everyone, period? But still limit the equips to max Lvl350? At least that way I'd be sure that there wouldn't be any reselling toward higher levels.
This post has been edited by decondelite: Jan 2 2018, 21:25
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Jan 2 2018, 21:33
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 2 2018, 20:24)  ...
That's not a bad idea, just maybe don't accept bids of high level guys that buy just to resell. This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Jan 2 2018, 21:35
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Jan 2 2018, 21:34
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KitsuneAbby
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That, I won't forbid it. I'd like to stop wondering about reselling at all. I'll be setting start prices to attempt to discourage it, and that's the best thing to do IMHO.
EDIT: I just got reroda's "go" to open the bids.
This post has been edited by decondelite: Jan 2 2018, 22:45
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Jan 3 2018, 00:52
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BlueWaterSplash
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I think it is defeating the purpose of your low level auctions to sell to anyone. At this point it is no different from a regular auction. However, the expensive items in question would indeed be more profitable for the low level sellers to put into the regular auction.
There is a conflict here that I was waiting to point out for some time. Although the principle of your low level auction is admirable, and helpful to low level buyers, there is not much incentive for a low level seller to list his items in your auction compared to the regular auction.
There are still some seller incentives. You accept low value equipments below 50k, help them price their equipment, and relist their equipment when it doesn't sell. But there are disincentives as well in the auction fee, and the restriction to low level buyers.
I think you should instead kick out those particular 2 items to the regular auctions. Mage gear is better for high level players anyway.
Otherwise, you could come up with some new incentive to attract extremely expensive items to your auctions. Perhaps a fixed fee cap, thus making your auction services more attractive than the normal auction for these items.
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Jan 3 2018, 01:17
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KitsuneAbby
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OK, you're right. I shouldn't have changed anything. Let's forget that moment of weakness I had.
Next time, I'll suggest the seller to send to super's or kedama's if it's fit.
This post has been edited by decondelite: Jan 3 2018, 01:30
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Jan 3 2018, 01:22
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 3 2018, 00:17)  OK, you're right. I shouldn't have changed anything. Let's forget that moment of weakness I had.
i wouldn't consider it a weakness. you found yourself having to deal with different needs (keeping the main trait of low-level-oriented that your auction has and ensuring the maximum profit possible for sellers), and tried to find a way to solve it. that particular way was wrong because the main trait would have failed. maybe another way does exist, but for now you saw it's not this one. a negative answer is still a result.
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Jan 3 2018, 01:28
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lazyNPC
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I frankly say it wasn't the wrong way, it isn't like some powerhouse is going to bid on stuff for beginner, cmon. It didn't defeat the purpose since stuff for beginners was still being auctioned and beginners could still buy them. Just the really good stuff would have been bidden on, like the current radiant thing.
This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Jan 3 2018, 01:29
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Jan 3 2018, 01:39
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KitsuneAbby
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BWS is right on that my auctions would still lose a big share of their identity. Starting with the spîrit behind these, and even my own mindset. I initially wanted these auctions to protect low level players from the said powerhouses, and removing the level cap was against that. I still feel like my duty is to protect low level players against sharks, and I was feeling very bad. I also wanted a clear distinction with super's and kedama's, and the line would have greatly been blurred. In the future, I will warn sellers thoroughly and I will bitchslap anyone who complains about equips they can't bid on due to level. That really feels much more like me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jan 3 2018, 01:43
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reality_marble
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If there is an worry about keeping your auctions for low leveled players, ヽ(*・ω・)ノ make an open bid section to all and only accept equipment to put in that section from the people under 350.
This way it moves from goal of helping the people to find equipment ┐(︶▽︶)┌ to helping them in a broader spectrum (@^◡^).
It is still about the people, just the people making money 〜( ̄▽ ̄〜). When someone send you a list of equipment you wouldn't need to tell him to send this and that to your auction but send some Peerless Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter to another one.
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Jan 3 2018, 01:45
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Jan 3 2018, 00:43)  ...
This would be a good compromise too.
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Jan 3 2018, 01:52
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Jan 3 2018, 00:43)  -snip- Deal. It's true that everyone sends me equips because they entrust me with their equipments. So I will offer them to open to all if the equipment qualifies. I will see how I organize it with my tools and my WTB.
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Jan 3 2018, 01:53
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-vincento-
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you are the best (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . Would be better to suggest them sending the items to other auctions or maybe create a small section for those equipments and label that all players can bid. It does help a lot if those equipments of good qualities can only be bided by players under350, but at the same time, the seller may lose quite a lot.
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Feb 21 2018, 15:03
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MEMDMU
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Does decondelite still read this?
First, I wanted to say that I find your auction awesome. Thanks so much for doing the job you're doing.
Second, you said you're trying to change the mentality about soulfusing, why? I sincerely thought it would be better to have a legendary set of equipments first and then sell all the other equipments you get right, doesn't equipemnts get weaker if there's too much difference of level?
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Feb 21 2018, 20:40
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KitsuneAbby
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Think a minute: how are you supposed to drop Legendaries in the first place? With an Exquisite set? And if there aren't any Legendaries for sale, what do you use instead? Bingo: Magnificent.
I was refering to all the Magnificent that players acquire: I advise to get a full Mag set early on, then once you got your full Leg set, you can sell back your Mag set. And in the process you won't have lost much.
There are more and more players who send back their equips to my auctions after using them for a while by the way.
This post has been edited by decondelite: Feb 21 2018, 20:41
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Feb 23 2018, 06:18
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Passerby4
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Feb 23 2018, 08:07
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Noni
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QUOTE(scott031 @ Feb 23 2018, 05:18)  Looks like those Magnificent < 350 rapiers are good stuff. Even that "Illithid" suffix, which is bad suffix, but it's the lowest level so it might sell. Decondelite doesn't sell equip > 350. So you can send him all the magnificent rapiers and see what he says. Is there a market for exquisit above lv300? And you even have one > lv 350 - that's way too high level. Below <300 is probably sellable. I suggest you just send the good stuff to decondelite and keep the > 300 exquisite. This post has been edited by DJNoni: Feb 23 2018, 08:10
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Feb 23 2018, 08:59
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2018, 07:07)  Is there a market for exquisit above lv300? And you even have one > lv 350 - that's way too high level. Below <300 is probably sellable. I suggest you just send the good stuff to decondelite and keep the > 300 exquisite.
No, there is absolutely no room for Exq beyond Lvl300. Heck even between Lvl250 and Lvl300 there is very, very little room left. That's just how much Magnificent rule now. Back in June a mere Lvl 280 Exq Power of Warding was still very rare, now even an Exq Power of Slaughter of the same level is unwanted.
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Feb 23 2018, 09:39
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Passerby4
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2018, 08:07)  Looks like those Magnificent < 350 rapiers are good stuff. Even that "Illithid" suffix, which is bad suffix, but it's the lowest level so it might sell. Decondelite doesn't sell equip > 350. So you can send him all the magnificent rapiers and see what he says.
Is there a market for exquisit above lv300? And you even have one > lv 350 - that's way too high level. Below <300 is probably sellable. I suggest you just send the good stuff to decondelite and keep the > 300 exquisite.
QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 23 2018, 08:59)  No, there is absolutely no room for Exq beyond Lvl300. Heck even between Lvl250 and Lvl300 there is very, very little room left. That's just how much Magnificent rule now. Back in June a mere Lvl 280 Exq Power of Warding was still very rare, now even an Exq Power of Slaughter of the same level is unwanted.
I'm sorry to hear that Then I'll send to other auction or still keep them I am too lazy to run an individual WTS store nowadays.. Thank you for both replies (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Feb 23 2018, 09:50
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KitsuneAbby
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What part of "Exq beyond Lvl300 is unwated" you don't understand? No one will want them. Not in my auction, even less in kedama's/super's, not in my WTS, not in your shop, not in anyone's, not even in the bazaar. The Mag rapiers will go away rather quickly, yes, but the Exq ones are to be bazaared, that's the only value they will ever have.
Why do you even ask if there is a market when we answer you "no" you refuse the answer?
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