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Apr 16 2019, 15:05
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Noni
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QUOTE(raynormj @ Apr 16 2019, 00:11)  How does a peerless mitigation phase robe of some element compare to a Leg charged phase robe of the same element, given they are within a similar price range say 3~5 million? I am assuming that the latter has mediocre rolls which falls into that price range, and also assuming that every other cotton/phase is charged.
A similar question would be that how different is it to have 4 charged from having 5 charged?
Peerless robe would be better in case of holy or dark, because it would allow you to play non-imperil with only 1 cotton when you have crazy 600 base prof (this will take half your life to reach, or a lot of stars and awards). however, in Pffest the lack of attack speed would suck. It would rock against arena mobs, though. For low level players, peerless robe would give you 0.8 prof factor, which is nice. For other elements, imperil style is much better. So peerless robe would suck. Maybe one could try non imperil with it, but again you would need ridiculously high base prof. Charged is always better for imperil style. Charged is almost always better. But problem is, radiant is just more Awesome!
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Apr 16 2019, 16:32
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raynormj
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 16 2019, 05:05)  Peerless robe would be better in case of holy or dark, because it would allow you to play non-imperil with only 1 cotton when you have crazy 600 base prof (this will take half your life to reach, or a lot of stars and awards). however, in Pffest the lack of attack speed would suck. It would rock against arena mobs, though. For low level players, peerless robe would give you 0.8 prof factor, which is nice.
For other elements, imperil style is much better. So peerless robe would suck. Maybe one could try non imperil with it, but again you would need ridiculously high base prof.
Charged is always better for imperil style. Charged is almost always better. But problem is, radiant is just more Awesome!
I should have made my question clearer but I am have excluded holy and dark mage from elemental mages (due to how they are separated in the Ability setting). I am a little bit confused as I was considering phase robes which has not proficiency bonus but elemental damage bonus. I know if an elemental mage planning for PFfest would turn 5 charges eventually. Yet the real question is on the law of diminishing return, that is, given that you have 4 charge pieces (besides the phase robe), how does a mediocre rolled charged phase robe compare with a peerless non-charge one? If they fall within a similar price range say 3~5 million then the former would not have a good roll on EDB and other stats, which give the latter advantages. This may all be not necessary consideration for richer players though. If one can easily afford a Leg charged phase robe with nice rolls then that beats a 3~5m peerless for sure.
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Apr 16 2019, 18:29
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Noni
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QUOTE(raynormj @ Apr 16 2019, 16:32)  I should have made my question clearer but I am have excluded holy and dark mage from elemental mages (due to how they are separated in the Ability setting). I am a little bit confused as I was considering phase robes which has not proficiency bonus but elemental damage bonus.
I know if an elemental mage planning for PFfest would turn 5 charges eventually. Yet the real question is on the law of diminishing return, that is, given that you have 4 charge pieces (besides the phase robe), how does a mediocre rolled charged phase robe compare with a peerless non-charge one? If they fall within a similar price range say 3~5 million then the former would not have a good roll on EDB and other stats, which give the latter advantages.
This may all be not necessary consideration for richer players though. If one can easily afford a Leg charged phase robe with nice rolls then that beats a 3~5m peerless for sure.
Then, charged is better than peerless.
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Apr 16 2019, 19:13
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Closed Account
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So which 1k hath proficiency perk should I buy as non-imperil electric mage? Elemental or Supportive? Elemental? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Apr 16 2019, 19:14
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Noni
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Apr 16 2019, 19:13)  So which 1k hath proficiency perk should I buy as non-imperil electric mage? Elemental or Supportive? Elemental? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) non-imperil? Lol you need all, plus a shitload of DD perks. For imperil, start with elemental.
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Apr 16 2019, 21:43
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Noni
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Apr 17 2019, 02:17
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rokyroky
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A LTRD + 4 phases non charged could work for arena SG?
This post has been edited by rokyroky: Apr 17 2019, 02:17
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Apr 17 2019, 02:29
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 16 2019, 15:43)  So does it matter where we slap that into Monsterbation? I assume just tack it on to the end?
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Apr 17 2019, 02:35
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feathered
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Apr 17 2019, 02:29)  So does it matter where we slap that into Monsterbation? I assume just tack it on to the end?
No. It mattered. There's line number to guide you.
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Apr 17 2019, 04:48
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 16 2019, 20:35)  No. It mattered. There's line number to guide you.
Huh, I was using an older version of the script, that was my trouble. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Apr 17 2019, 05:17
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Apr 17 2019, 12:48)  Huh, I was using an older version of the script, that was my trouble. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Be careful which version you are using of the script as some lines have been banned, which are in previous versions. This post has been edited by TygerTyger: Apr 17 2019, 05:25
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Apr 17 2019, 05:31
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Apr 16 2019, 23:17)  Be careful which version you are using of the script as some lines have been banned which are in previous versions.
Well that's really frightening. Do you know off the top of your head which versions have banned lines? If they're still posted in the Monsterbation changelog thread, they should come with a warning!
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Apr 17 2019, 06:05
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qr12345
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Apr 17 2019, 00:17)  A LTRD + 4 phases non charged could work for arena SG?
It works.
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Apr 17 2019, 06:29
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Apr 17 2019, 13:31)  Well that's really frightening. Do you know off the top of your head which versions have banned lines? If they're still posted in the Monsterbation changelog thread, they should come with a warning!
stopOnChannelling stopOnUsableGem stopOnFullOvercharge Are the ones I know of that are banned. There may be more. If you search the thread you can see that they've been banned. As long as you've updated since Feb 14 2018 you should be ok, though always best to keep it updated. This post has been edited by TygerTyger: Apr 17 2019, 06:32
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Apr 17 2019, 07:06
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Apr 17 2019, 00:29)  stopOnChannelling stopOnUsableGem stopOnFullOvercharge
Are the ones I know of that are banned. There may be more.
If you search the thread you can see that they've been banned.
As long as you've updated since Feb 14 2018 you should be ok, though always best to keep it updated.
Well that's a relief! Mine wasn't that old, and I also never used those functions regardless. Still a good reminder to be more mindful and update more often though.
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Apr 17 2019, 11:30
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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Quick Easter question, I assume we get the trophies only once right? SO even if you shrine 50 full sets of buttons you'll only get 11 trophies?
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Apr 17 2019, 11:33
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Apr 17 2019, 11:30)  Quick Easter question, I assume we get the trophies only once right? SO even if you shrine 50 full sets of buttons you'll only get 11 trophies?
yes, no Idea why people buy more than one trophy for a price which is higher than a PA
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Apr 17 2019, 11:34
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Apr 17 2019, 18:33)  yes, no Idea why people buy more than one trophy for a price which is higher than a PA
Well, I understand buying 2 sets (one to shrine, one to keep). More than that is probably hoping to sell couple of years down the line for new collectors? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Honestly, just play like crazy and shrine them all. The drop rate is pretty good (feels better than regular PAs for sure) Get EDs Sell Profit? This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Apr 17 2019, 11:35
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Apr 17 2019, 12:07
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Apr 17 2019, 09:33)  yes, no Idea why people buy more than one trophy for a price which is higher than a PA
Probably an attempt to assemble a full set and speculate. That won't work though.
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Apr 17 2019, 22:57
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sickentide
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Apr 17 2019, 05:31)  If they're still posted in the Monsterbation changelog thread, they should come with a warning!
the changelog stops listing the files precisely where they become illegal
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