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post Apr 15 2019, 05:24
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:04) *
Here's how I begin my runs:

1. Use all 3 draughts.
2. Buff Spark of Life -> Spirit Shield (Just got it) -> Regen -> Shadowveil
3. Get into spirit stand as soon as I get 3 solid orbs of overcharge.
4. Kill "dangerous" mobs that I know hurts a lot.
5. Finish buffing the rest of my buffs.

Where's Protection? Protection first!

Try this sequence:
Protection > Regen > Spirit Shield > Haste > Spark of Life > Shadow Veil.

I only use Haste if I am outmached. I only use Shadow Veil if I'm terribly terribly outmached.
Do try save up for two level of Innate Arcana. You can put Spirit Shield into one of the slot.

BTW, have you checked your ability page? Those supportive spells do need to be leveled up to be serviceable.


QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *
And here's my current gears:

Ah, you might want to visit freeshop or equipment rental thread. I found equipment at Magnificent quality served well for up to 50 level difference. You have some superiors, and that superior leggings are almost 100 level in difference. Your shield is amazing, but level gap had got big. You might want to soulfuse it (not recommended, it's only great at around level 300, not amazing), but I advise you to replace it. Don't bazaar it, it's a great equipment.

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post Apr 15 2019, 05:34
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Apr 14 2019, 22:21) *

I'm not certain of / verified the accuracy of https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level other than PFUDOR, but the jump from Nintendo -> IWBTH shouldn't be that much more than Hell -> Nintendo.

Also, are you using protection or have any Innate Arcana? Will likely help, perhaps Flame Spike Shield too (albeit much less; I'm not sure how constrained you are in ability point usage at your level).

What are your gears and such? Are you certain that their condition are all above 50%? (I remember when I was lower level I died a ton of times due to forgetting to repair)

If you're still having difficulties, perhaps try using Silence (if it's the special attacks that keep killing you) or Weaken.

Not sure if this applies to lower levels in clearing higher difficulty arenas, but when I was having a harder time with PFFEST I started using Haste as well (more time to react/cure/potion). Do note that it will take a lot more time to kill / finish things though (especially in regards to maintaining overcharge), but then again, if you die / can't complete without it, then it technically takes an infinite amount of time.


Yes, I fix my gears pretty frequently, mostly before it gets anywhere close to 50% (because I hate seeing that red exclamation mark).

I keep all buffs except for Arcane Focus running at all time. And that's a no for Innate Arcana.

I haven't thought about using the debuffs though, but I don't really think that'd help in my situation, where I'm brought down to maybe 1k hp with Cloak of the Fallen triggered in the first turn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:38
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *

Well, since items are 0 action speed, so I figure I might as well just cast them first because it has no negative impact
True, but i still did wonder, this was the first time i did heart of it.

QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *
Finish your IW and get an elemental strike asap.

QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *
Uh, get a force shield or a buckler also asap.

And you should really replace some of your gear with one closer to your level, or soulfuse it, but with such equipment i am not suprised you cant survive IWBTH. And did you just dont get any usefull power armor or did you decide to not use power armor? And until you did something to get better equipment, just stay at nintendo when you can survive it and try IWTBH again when you got better equipment.

QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 15 2019, 05:24) *

Your shield is amazing,

You did notice that it is a kite shield right? Even a "great" kite shield is still a kite shield.

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post Apr 15 2019, 05:39
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 14 2019, 22:24) *

Where's Protection? Protection first!

Try this sequence:
Protection > Regen > Spirit Shield > Haste > Spark of Life > Shadow Veil.

I only use Haste if I am outmached. I only use Shadow Veil if I'm terribly terribly outmached.
Do try save up for two level of Innate Arcana. You can put Spirit Shield into one of the slot.
Ah, you might want to visit freeshop or equipment rental thread. I found equipment at Magnificent quality served well for up to 50 level difference. You have some superiors, and that superior leggings are almost 100 level in difference. Your shield is amazing, but level gap had got big. You might want to soulfuse it (not recommended, it's only great at around level 300, not amazing), but I advise you to replace it. Don't bazaar it, it's a great equipment.


Yeah, my gears are lagging behind a lot right now. I soulfused my weapon because I got sick and tired of not finding anything remotely decent compare to what I'm using (and I got that sword at level 120ish).

I usually put protection on after I feel safe, but I can see what you're talking about. I'm still a bit iffy with not casting Spark of Life first because of my experience with getting 1-shot in the first turn (lol)

But I'll be sure to try and cast that early.
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:48
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 22:38) *

True, but i still did wonder, this was the first time i did heart of it.

Finish your IW and get an elemental strike asap.

Uh, get a force shield or a buckler also asap.

And you should really replace some of your gear with one closer to your level, or soulfuse it, but with such equipment i am not suprised you cant survive IWBTH. And did you just dont get any usefull power armor or did you decide to not use power armor? And until you did something to get better equipment, just stay at nintendo when you can survive it and try IWTBH again when you got better equipment.


I used power armors until maybel level 100 or so, but I can't seem to find any decent ones afterward (via drop or the item shop), so I just decided to go with whatever high enough pieces I can get my hands on.

I should really do what feathered suggested and visit the freeshop/rental threads to replace my gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

As for staying in Nintendo, I'll definitely do that for now. I was just surprised at the difference between the two levels, and wanted to know if it was just my gears or I'm doing something terribly wrong. The differences on paper doesn't seem THAT bad, but ymmv (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks all for the advices!

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post Apr 15 2019, 06:14
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Force shield are generally a better option, it's probably better to just compare the actual block chance though (i.e. mag kite vs exq force would be iffy).

Power is very nice, but imo that's generally clear-speed wise and less tankiness-wise. At 1H higher levels surviving is generally not an issue, but I'm unsure at your level. Might be easier surviving in plate (but will take longer time to clear). Also, might be difficult finding Power pieces at your level, and will be a lot more expensive as well.

If you do manage to find decent pieces, perhaps consider forging them (on non-power, [perhaps non-force] pieces, up to level 5) as well, it barely costs anything to get up to level 5, especially for Mag- non-rare pieces. You can also get 90% of the non-catalyst material if you ever decide to salvage them, along with improving your forge xp/level.

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post Apr 15 2019, 06:14
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 15 2019, 05:38) *
You did notice that it is a kite shield right? Even a "great" kite shield is still a kite shield.

99% block mag range Kite Shield at level 200 is amazing. It's also SDE.
But of course, 50% block Leg Force at level 300 is only nice enough.
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post Apr 15 2019, 08:38
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QUOTE(lestion @ Apr 14 2019, 22:16) *

(The other reason almost all 1H players use rapier is penetrated armour is by far the most effective weapon proc for clear speed).

Yes. Keep poking the rock with your toothpick and call that a "counter-attack". After a few years, it'll eventually have a dent. And then rapier players dare talking about efficiency and clear speed.

So stand corrected: what rapiers are good for, is to play "one hand", with the other on the dong. Moving the mouse about and that's all it is about the only reason why one should play a rapier. That doesn't mean that it's the most effective method to play 1H. Heck even a wakizashi could get better clear times, if you make the effort of using Imperil, thus both hands.

QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Apr 15 2019, 01:22) *

The threads I found all disagreed on what other factors trigger it. I suspect most of them are superstitious heresay.

It doesn't occur at Dawn or anything special we can see with our eyes. It's done during automatic server maintenance, which occurs at non-fixed times IIRC.

QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 15 2019, 03:24) *

Where's Protection? Protection first!

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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 15 2019, 04:14) *

99% block mag range Kite Shield at level 200 is amazing. It's also SDE.
But of course, 50% block Leg Force at level 300 is only nice enough.

Yes, a top-notch Kite is 10 times better than a mediocre force. Mostly because it has lower interference and doesn't cost rares to forge.
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post Apr 15 2019, 12:32
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With Easter event on, I guess it's time to finally try out the grindfest, at least partially. But obviously I can't handle pffest to last round. Should I just try out iwbthfest to see if I can clear it, or should I just go for pffest to wherever I could handle and flee?

Or, maybe I should just buy/trade artifacts that come from grindfest lol

Also, are the Easter trophies essentially the same thing as precursor artifacts in terms of result of shrine?

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post Apr 15 2019, 12:52
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 15 2019, 12:32) *

With Easter event on, I guess it's time to finally try out the grindfest, at least partially. But obviously I can't handle pffest to last round. Should I just try out iwbthfest to see if I can clear it, or should I just go for pffest to wherever I could handle and flee?

Or, maybe I should just buy/trade artifacts that come from grindfest lol

Also, are the Easter trophies essentially the same thing as precursor artifacts in terms of result of shrine?


I would say go for Pffest as long as you can manage and then flee

as far as I can remember they only give 1 Hath but the rest was the same
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post Apr 15 2019, 13:19
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can i sell this or give it to snowflake

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post Apr 15 2019, 13:45
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can i sell this or give it to snowflake

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You need to shrine a set and then you can sell the rest

It's to do with the Easter Event.
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post Apr 15 2019, 14:09
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 15 2019, 08:38) *
Yes, a top-notch Kite is 10 times better than a mediocre force. Mostly because it has lower interference and doesn't cost rares to forge.

I brought up level because it's a rarity argument, actually. Any great Force Shield that level 200 player can soulbound inevitably attract potential buyer from higher level. Typical level 200 player can't compete with the force (read: credit) they bring to bear. So, low leveled player make do with things high leveled player won't want. Excepting self-drop, of course.


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What's the clear cut equipment quality, in your opinion, to consider perfect IW?
I have this little silly rapier that I tried hollowforging. Should I reset to get Butcher-Fatality, or should I go on?
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post Apr 15 2019, 14:48
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 15 2019, 23:09) *

New question:
What's the clear cut equipment quality, in your opinion, to consider perfect IW?
I have this little silly rapier that I tried hollowforging. Should I reset to get Butcher-Fatality, or should I go on?


If you're playing 1H, I'd only consider Butch/Fat

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post Apr 15 2019, 15:51
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Oh shit, easter event already going on mmm...~?
Is the artifact gives slightly worse prize if you shrine it like last year (I believe last year artifact gave only 1 hath instead of 2) mmm...~?
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post Apr 15 2019, 16:19
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QUOTE(VawX @ Apr 15 2019, 15:51) *

Oh shit, easter event already going on mmm...~?
Is the artifact gives slightly worse prize if you shrine it like last year (I believe last year artifact gave only 1 hath instead of 2) mmm...~?

Yep
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post Apr 15 2019, 16:21
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 15 2019, 12:09) *

New question:
What's the clear cut equipment quality, in your opinion, to consider perfect IW?
I have this little silly rapier that I tried hollowforging. Should I reset to get Butcher-Fatality, or should I go on?

Anything that isn't Legendary doesn't deserve to be reforged, IMHO.
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post Apr 15 2019, 16:35
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 15 2019, 08:09) *

New question:
What's the clear cut equipment quality, in your opinion, to consider perfect IW?
I have this little silly rapier that I tried hollowforging. Should I reset to get Butcher-Fatality, or should I go on?


The rapier looks decent (aside for the mediocre prefix), but then again since it's soulfused reforging will cost quite a bit of shards more assuming you don't have Dark Descent (imo the savings from 2x pxp from soulfuse is a bit less than the saved shards from being able to send it to DD services).

Personally, if I was you and intended to use it for a while, I'd just at the very least get rid of the swift strike. Also might as well forge it to at least level 5 since costs no bindings or rare components, and it's not like you can resell it anyways (will be salvaged eventually)


Also, does anyone know if we need to shrine all 10 artifacts this Easter to obtain 10 T7 + 1 T8, contrary from previous years:
QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 8 2019, 12:54) *

For newcomers, you need to collect 7 different artifacts (a full set) and shrine them before the above timer hits zero. the day after Easter you'll automatically be awarded some trophies: 1x T7 for each different artifact shrine (thus, 7 maximum)



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post Apr 15 2019, 18:19
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boss didn't tell us that he would hide 10 different easter artifacts this year. We have no clue if shrining 10 will give 10 trophies, or if 7 is enough. But my guess is tht we need 10, and get 10.
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post Apr 15 2019, 18:39
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Well, i would suggest shrine 10 and just be happy with what you get. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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