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post Apr 15 2019, 04:40
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 04:23) *
Is there that big of a gap between Nintendo and IWBTH levels? The reason I'm asking is because I'm able to pretty much breeze through Nintendo for Arena battles, but as soon as I switch to IWBTH, I ran into issues like being dead before I can even buff myself properly in the first battle. Just want to ask if this is normal or am I doing something wrong? :/

You probably did something wrong. Start your buffing with defense buff, like protection and regeneration. Not that you were, but starting with Heartseeker is recipe for disaster. Well, unless you already have your buff autocasted.
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post Apr 15 2019, 04:57
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 04:23) *

Is there that big of a gap between Nintendo and IWBTH levels? The reason I'm asking is because I'm able to pretty much breeze through Nintendo for Arena battles, but as soon as I switch to IWBTH, I ran into issues like being dead before I can even buff myself properly in the first battle. Just want to ask if this is normal or am I doing something wrong? :/
Well, even when i dont really remember myself, but IWTBH was once the highest difficulty, so i wouldnt be suprised, that it is actually quite a jump. Btw, dont we have any more information about the difficulties? Couldnt find anything in the wiki except for pfudor, but somehow i remember i did read somewhere more info about each difficulty. Hm, maybe i am just getting old. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:04
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 14 2019, 21:40) *

You probably did something wrong. Start your buffing with defense buff, like protection and regeneration. Not that you were, but starting with Heartseeker is recipe for disaster. Well, unless you already have your buff autocasted.


Here's how I begin my runs:

1. Use all 3 draughts.
2. Buff Spark of Life -> Spirit Shield (Just got it) -> Regen -> Shadowveil
3. Get into spirit stand as soon as I get 3 solid orbs of overcharge.
4. Kill "dangerous" mobs that I know hurts a lot.
5. Finish buffing the rest of my buffs.

I'm currently using 1h/shield with heavy armors.

Heartseeker is probably the last thing I buff unless I get a channeling buff somewhere along the line (it costs so much mana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)).

The thing is it's now 2 runs straight in arena battles (To Kill A God and New Wings) where I get killed in the first battle when doing it under IWBTH, with multiple mobs throwing spells at me that I didn't even have a chance to heal and recast Spark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

My gears probably just sucks :/

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post Apr 15 2019, 05:07
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(it costs so much mana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))
For you much more important at the start of a fight, it cost much time to cast. And for this case not really important, but why do you cast all three types of draught at the start? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:08
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Well, OFC just magically appeared. I am guessing it appears after Dawn but not immediately after Dawn.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 15 2019, 04:57) *

Well, even when i dont really remember myself, but IWTBH was once the highest difficulty, so i wouldnt be suprised, that it is actually quite a jump. Btw, dont we have any more information about the difficulties? Couldnt find anything in the wiki except for pfudor, but somehow i remember i did read somewhere more info about each difficulty. Hm, maybe i am just getting old. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I recall there being a Battletoads difficulty level between Nintendo and IWBTH. Since Battletoads and IWBTH were used less than the other difficulties, they were combined. So now the jump between Nintendo and IWBTH larger than it used to be. I remember because the transition happened just as I was attempting to earn Fus Ro Dah and I was the first find out (or at least the first to report) that you need to do it at IWBTH difficulty instead of the obsoleted Battletoads.

I didn't find the jump that difficult. That said, I could not survive it for long without Supportive and Deprecating spells.
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:09
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Two Questions about Arcane Focus

1. Didn't it used to increase both the chance to Critical Hit and Critical Damage?

2. Why can't it be selected as a Hath Perk?

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post Apr 15 2019, 05:13
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QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Apr 15 2019, 05:08) *

Well, OFC just magically appeared. I am guessing it appears after Dawn but not immediately after Dawn.
Nope, it just needs some time, just like hath perks, and this time can differ.

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I recall there being a Battletoads difficulty level between Nintendo and IWBTH. Since Battletoads and IWBTH were used less than the other difficulties, they were combined. So now the jump between Nintendo and IWBTH larger than it used to be. I remember because the transition happened just as I was attempting to earn Fus Ro Dah and I was the first find out (or at least the first to report) that you need to do it at IWBTH difficulty instead of the obsoleted Battletoads.
Now that you mention it, i remember something like that. That really has been such a long time. Iirc i myself did never play on that difficulty. The game has really change since i did start playing for the first time and now i really feel old. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Apr 15 2019, 05:09) *

1. Didn't it used to increase both the chance to Critical Hit and Critical Damage?

Did you activate Better Arcane Focus?
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2. Why can't it be selected as a Hath Perk?
As Hath Perk? Do you mean why you cant set it in a auto cast slot? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


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post Apr 15 2019, 05:21
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 14 2019, 23:04) *

The thing is it's now 2 runs straight in arena battles (To Kill A God and New Wings) where I get killed in the first battle when doing it under IWBTH, with multiple mobs throwing spells at me that I didn't even have a chance to heal and recast Spark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


I'm not certain of / verified the accuracy of https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level other than PFUDOR, but the jump from Nintendo -> IWBTH shouldn't be that much more than Hell -> Nintendo.

Also, are you using protection or have any Innate Arcana? Will likely help, perhaps Flame Spike Shield too (albeit much less; I'm not sure how constrained you are in ability point usage at your level).

What are your gears and such? Are you certain that their condition are all above 50%? (I remember when I was lower level I died a ton of times due to forgetting to repair)

If you're still having difficulties, perhaps try using Silence (if it's the special attacks that keep killing you) or Weaken.

Not sure if this applies to lower levels in clearing higher difficulty arenas, but when I was having a harder time with PFFEST I started using Haste as well (more time to react/cure/potion). Do note that it will take a lot more time to kill / finish things though (especially in regards to maintaining overcharge), but then again, if you die / can't complete without it, then it technically takes an infinite amount of time.
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:21
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 22:07) *

For you much more important at the start of a fight, it cost much time to cast. And for this case not really important, but why do you cast all three types of draught at the start? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Well, since items are 0 action speed, so I figure I might as well just cast them first because it has no negative impact (other than maybe wasting the first few ticks).

And here's my current gears:

Weapon:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/190061140/67e7b52e2c
Shield:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/190061585/c109253711
Helm:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/190158293/e1311b6121
Body:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/190286362/696c9df758
Hands:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/190158285/9a9b89ffc8
Legs:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/190157262/c0f0ea8a04
Feet:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/190206035/f008943948

I mean I decided to try out IWBTH is because it doesn't seem THAT much harder according to the wiki:
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings

Where the mob HP goes from 1.7x to 2x and mob damage from 2x to 2.5x

But boy, was I wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:24
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:04) *
Here's how I begin my runs:

1. Use all 3 draughts.
2. Buff Spark of Life -> Spirit Shield (Just got it) -> Regen -> Shadowveil
3. Get into spirit stand as soon as I get 3 solid orbs of overcharge.
4. Kill "dangerous" mobs that I know hurts a lot.
5. Finish buffing the rest of my buffs.

Where's Protection? Protection first!

Try this sequence:
Protection > Regen > Spirit Shield > Haste > Spark of Life > Shadow Veil.

I only use Haste if I am outmached. I only use Shadow Veil if I'm terribly terribly outmached.
Do try save up for two level of Innate Arcana. You can put Spirit Shield into one of the slot.

BTW, have you checked your ability page? Those supportive spells do need to be leveled up to be serviceable.


QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *
And here's my current gears:

Ah, you might want to visit freeshop or equipment rental thread. I found equipment at Magnificent quality served well for up to 50 level difference. You have some superiors, and that superior leggings are almost 100 level in difference. Your shield is amazing, but level gap had got big. You might want to soulfuse it (not recommended, it's only great at around level 300, not amazing), but I advise you to replace it. Don't bazaar it, it's a great equipment.

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post Apr 15 2019, 05:34
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Apr 14 2019, 22:21) *

I'm not certain of / verified the accuracy of https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_Level other than PFUDOR, but the jump from Nintendo -> IWBTH shouldn't be that much more than Hell -> Nintendo.

Also, are you using protection or have any Innate Arcana? Will likely help, perhaps Flame Spike Shield too (albeit much less; I'm not sure how constrained you are in ability point usage at your level).

What are your gears and such? Are you certain that their condition are all above 50%? (I remember when I was lower level I died a ton of times due to forgetting to repair)

If you're still having difficulties, perhaps try using Silence (if it's the special attacks that keep killing you) or Weaken.

Not sure if this applies to lower levels in clearing higher difficulty arenas, but when I was having a harder time with PFFEST I started using Haste as well (more time to react/cure/potion). Do note that it will take a lot more time to kill / finish things though (especially in regards to maintaining overcharge), but then again, if you die / can't complete without it, then it technically takes an infinite amount of time.


Yes, I fix my gears pretty frequently, mostly before it gets anywhere close to 50% (because I hate seeing that red exclamation mark).

I keep all buffs except for Arcane Focus running at all time. And that's a no for Innate Arcana.

I haven't thought about using the debuffs though, but I don't really think that'd help in my situation, where I'm brought down to maybe 1k hp with Cloak of the Fallen triggered in the first turn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:38
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QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *

Well, since items are 0 action speed, so I figure I might as well just cast them first because it has no negative impact
True, but i still did wonder, this was the first time i did heart of it.

QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *
Finish your IW and get an elemental strike asap.

QUOTE(Finestela @ Apr 15 2019, 05:21) *
Uh, get a force shield or a buckler also asap.

And you should really replace some of your gear with one closer to your level, or soulfuse it, but with such equipment i am not suprised you cant survive IWBTH. And did you just dont get any usefull power armor or did you decide to not use power armor? And until you did something to get better equipment, just stay at nintendo when you can survive it and try IWTBH again when you got better equipment.

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Your shield is amazing,

You did notice that it is a kite shield right? Even a "great" kite shield is still a kite shield.

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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 14 2019, 22:24) *

Where's Protection? Protection first!

Try this sequence:
Protection > Regen > Spirit Shield > Haste > Spark of Life > Shadow Veil.

I only use Haste if I am outmached. I only use Shadow Veil if I'm terribly terribly outmached.
Do try save up for two level of Innate Arcana. You can put Spirit Shield into one of the slot.
Ah, you might want to visit freeshop or equipment rental thread. I found equipment at Magnificent quality served well for up to 50 level difference. You have some superiors, and that superior leggings are almost 100 level in difference. Your shield is amazing, but level gap had got big. You might want to soulfuse it (not recommended, it's only great at around level 300, not amazing), but I advise you to replace it. Don't bazaar it, it's a great equipment.


Yeah, my gears are lagging behind a lot right now. I soulfused my weapon because I got sick and tired of not finding anything remotely decent compare to what I'm using (and I got that sword at level 120ish).

I usually put protection on after I feel safe, but I can see what you're talking about. I'm still a bit iffy with not casting Spark of Life first because of my experience with getting 1-shot in the first turn (lol)

But I'll be sure to try and cast that early.
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:48
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 14 2019, 22:38) *

True, but i still did wonder, this was the first time i did heart of it.

Finish your IW and get an elemental strike asap.

Uh, get a force shield or a buckler also asap.

And you should really replace some of your gear with one closer to your level, or soulfuse it, but with such equipment i am not suprised you cant survive IWBTH. And did you just dont get any usefull power armor or did you decide to not use power armor? And until you did something to get better equipment, just stay at nintendo when you can survive it and try IWTBH again when you got better equipment.


I used power armors until maybel level 100 or so, but I can't seem to find any decent ones afterward (via drop or the item shop), so I just decided to go with whatever high enough pieces I can get my hands on.

I should really do what feathered suggested and visit the freeshop/rental threads to replace my gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

As for staying in Nintendo, I'll definitely do that for now. I was just surprised at the difference between the two levels, and wanted to know if it was just my gears or I'm doing something terribly wrong. The differences on paper doesn't seem THAT bad, but ymmv (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks all for the advices!

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post Apr 15 2019, 06:14
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Force shield are generally a better option, it's probably better to just compare the actual block chance though (i.e. mag kite vs exq force would be iffy).

Power is very nice, but imo that's generally clear-speed wise and less tankiness-wise. At 1H higher levels surviving is generally not an issue, but I'm unsure at your level. Might be easier surviving in plate (but will take longer time to clear). Also, might be difficult finding Power pieces at your level, and will be a lot more expensive as well.

If you do manage to find decent pieces, perhaps consider forging them (on non-power, [perhaps non-force] pieces, up to level 5) as well, it barely costs anything to get up to level 5, especially for Mag- non-rare pieces. You can also get 90% of the non-catalyst material if you ever decide to salvage them, along with improving your forge xp/level.

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You did notice that it is a kite shield right? Even a "great" kite shield is still a kite shield.

99% block mag range Kite Shield at level 200 is amazing. It's also SDE.
But of course, 50% block Leg Force at level 300 is only nice enough.
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post Apr 15 2019, 08:38
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(The other reason almost all 1H players use rapier is penetrated armour is by far the most effective weapon proc for clear speed).

Yes. Keep poking the rock with your toothpick and call that a "counter-attack". After a few years, it'll eventually have a dent. And then rapier players dare talking about efficiency and clear speed.

So stand corrected: what rapiers are good for, is to play "one hand", with the other on the dong. Moving the mouse about and that's all it is about the only reason why one should play a rapier. That doesn't mean that it's the most effective method to play 1H. Heck even a wakizashi could get better clear times, if you make the effort of using Imperil, thus both hands.

QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Apr 15 2019, 01:22) *

The threads I found all disagreed on what other factors trigger it. I suspect most of them are superstitious heresay.

It doesn't occur at Dawn or anything special we can see with our eyes. It's done during automatic server maintenance, which occurs at non-fixed times IIRC.

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Where's Protection? Protection first!

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99% block mag range Kite Shield at level 200 is amazing. It's also SDE.
But of course, 50% block Leg Force at level 300 is only nice enough.

Yes, a top-notch Kite is 10 times better than a mediocre force. Mostly because it has lower interference and doesn't cost rares to forge.
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With Easter event on, I guess it's time to finally try out the grindfest, at least partially. But obviously I can't handle pffest to last round. Should I just try out iwbthfest to see if I can clear it, or should I just go for pffest to wherever I could handle and flee?

Or, maybe I should just buy/trade artifacts that come from grindfest lol

Also, are the Easter trophies essentially the same thing as precursor artifacts in terms of result of shrine?

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 15 2019, 12:32) *

With Easter event on, I guess it's time to finally try out the grindfest, at least partially. But obviously I can't handle pffest to last round. Should I just try out iwbthfest to see if I can clear it, or should I just go for pffest to wherever I could handle and flee?

Or, maybe I should just buy/trade artifacts that come from grindfest lol

Also, are the Easter trophies essentially the same thing as precursor artifacts in terms of result of shrine?


I would say go for Pffest as long as you can manage and then flee

as far as I can remember they only give 1 Hath but the rest was the same
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