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post Apr 13 2019, 13:33
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 13 2019, 11:20) *

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Will it be better for pyromaniacs to use willow, or is it more recommended to stick with redwood? Charged phase of Arsonist bid is still so low RN!

It's a matter of choice. Do you want to have higher elemental damage+prof (Redwood) or innate counter-resist+depr prof? Both are viable IMHO.
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post Apr 13 2019, 13:38
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 13 2019, 07:33) *

It's a matter of choice. Do you want to have higher elemental damage+prof (Redwood) or innate counter-resist+depr prof? Both are viable IMHO.


I wonder if redwood is even remotely viable for pffest tho. Can somebody confirm?
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post Apr 13 2019, 13:52
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 13 2019, 11:38) *

I wonder if redwood is even remotely viable for pffest tho. Can somebody confirm?

I don't think redwood is a good choice for pffest.
Much more imperil resisted issue compared to willow.
Monsters in late GF can take you down in 1~2 actions so it's risky to recast imperil.
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post Apr 13 2019, 13:57
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Apr 13 2019, 07:52) *

I don't think redwood is a good choice for pffest.
Much more imperil resisted issue compared to willow.
Monsters in late GF can take you down in 1~2 actions so it's risky to recast imperil.


Yea, I thought so. Sigh, I thought it was elec/wind>dark>cold/fire, but it seems at least for pffest everything else>dark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I might have to build a fire mage just for pffest :/
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post Apr 13 2019, 14:05
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 13 2019, 13:57) *

Yea, I thought so. Sigh, I thought it was elec/wind>dark>cold/fire, but it seems at least for pffest everything else>dark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I might have to build a fire mage just for pffest :/


You're a over-dramatizing it a bit. Dark isn't THAT bad. Redwood isn't THAT bad.

1. Redwood imperil cold served me fine for PFFEST. About 1 hour to 1:10 it took me.

2. Dark imperil works fine for PFFEST. About 50-60 minutes it took me.

Your plan to play imperil dark mage is still sound. Fire mage would work as well. Just don't expect the clear times of sssss2
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post Apr 13 2019, 14:07
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Apr 13 2019, 13:52) *
I don't think redwood is a good choice for pffest.
Much more imperil resisted issue compared to willow.

I see. I'm certainly not thinking about Fest yet, but it's nice to hear about long-term viability.

New question:
Minimum forge level to complete PF-Fest for imperil elemental?
Does the large difference in price between, say, freyr and surtr phase reasonable?
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post Apr 13 2019, 14:10
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 13 2019, 08:05) *

You're a over-dramatizing it a bit. Dark isn't THAT bad. Redwood isn't THAT bad.

1. Redwood imperil cold served me fine for PFFEST. About 1 hour to 1:10 it took me.

2. Dark imperil works fine for PFFEST. About 50-60 minutes it took me.

Your plan to play imperil dark mage is still sound. Fire mage would work as well. Just don't expect the clear times of sssss2


Hmm but didn't you say you die some times with your build? Or was it explicitly for your non-imperil build? How consistent was your pffest runs as imperil dark mage?

I'm fine with spending a couple more minutes since it'll still be notches faster than 1H lol. I'm looking for consistent clear without dying or having to flee.
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post Apr 13 2019, 14:13
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 13 2019, 14:07) *

I see. I'm certainly not thinking about Fest yet, but it's nice to hear about long-term viability.

New question:
Minimum forge level to complete PF-Fest for imperil elemental?
Does the large difference in price between, say, freyr and surtr phase reasonable?


You will be able to play PFFEST up to round 600-700 with low forging, as long as you have all charged. Cotton & staff need full forging of course - Prof needs to be high enough. Forging ohases will make things easier, and you will get to higher rounds.

Price is not reasonable between freyr and surtr. Freyr is better, sure. But don't follow the prices for the top gear. Go for the okay gear instead. There, the prices are actually much more realistic and closer together.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 13 2019, 14:10) *

Hmm but didn't you say you die some times with your build? Or was it explicitly for your non-imperil build? How consistent was your pffest runs as imperil dark mage?

I'm fine with spending a couple more minutes since it'll still be notches faster than 1H lol. I'm looking for consistent clear without dying or having to flee.



Haven't I told you this before? I have a weird sense of deja-vu...

Imperil dark, full charged: No problems in PFFEST. But I got bored with that style. Imperil cold, full charged (no wait, 1 radiant): no problems in PFFEST. But I got bored with that style. Please note: all my imperil builds have been decommissioned. Not because they sucked. Because I was done with them.

Non-imperil style, with 2 different sets (3+2 and 4+1): both have a hard time finishing PFFEST, because of dying. But getting to round 500 is very, very fast. I enjoy this style at the moment. That's why I play this style.



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post Apr 13 2019, 14:25
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Huh, from what you're saying non-imperil gets to round 500 much faster, but it's more susceptible to dying after that compared to imperil play? That's quite interesting...Anyways, thanks for the info (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Btw, did you get the supp prof perk? I might consider getting it after the DD V....Anything beyond DD V really seems to be so bad in terms of cost efficiency (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 13 2019, 15:16
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 13 2019, 14:25) *

Huh, from what you're saying non-imperil gets to round 500 much faster, but it's more susceptible to dying after that compared to imperil play? That's quite interesting...Anyways, thanks for the info (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Btw, did you get the supp prof perk? I might consider getting it after the DD V....Anything beyond DD V really seems to be so bad in terms of cost efficiency (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I have all the perks that don't suck and that cost up to 20k hath. But don't use me as an example, you don't need everything.
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post Apr 13 2019, 17:25
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Apr 13 2019, 02:40) *

I don't remember who but someone told me it was a thing though probably a heavily forged thing. If non-imperil elemental isn't a thing why would anyone prefer willow over redwood?

also does that mean radiant is useless for elemental since you need the cast speed to do imperil. if you have imperil the extra damage isn't needed right?


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QUOTE(kyouri @ Mar 10 2018, 13:52) *

Grindfest cleared first time non-imperil build @ 7633 turns. Lightyears better than my imperil record, shows imperil sucks without charged nor willow.

Used scrolls after round 500. DD at level 5.
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post Apr 14 2019, 02:30
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1) Is PFFEST the Easter event?
2) At what point should I start concerning myself with soulfusing items?
3) I just got my first shade armor, what proficiencies do I want to put on it? I got capacitor initially, but I'm guessing that's not gonna fly for a 1H build like me.
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post Apr 14 2019, 02:42
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 02:30) *

1) Is PFFEST the Easter event?
PFFest or PFest is just grindfest on PFUDOR difficulty.
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2) At what point should I start concerning myself with soulfusing items?

Imo, when you got equipment you will use for a longer time.
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3) I just got my first shade armor, what proficiencies do I want to put on it? I got capacitor initially, but I'm guessing that's not gonna fly for a 1H build like me.
Ehm, shade armor is not really what you want to use as 1H. And afaik Capacitor is only good for mages, sometimes not even for mages. You want Jugg but when you still have to even start soulfusing your equipment, i suggest dont care too much about the IW of your armor.
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post Apr 14 2019, 03:06
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 13 2019, 20:42) *

PFFest or PFest is just grindfest on PFUDOR difficulty.

Imo, when you got equipment you will use for a longer time.
Ehm, shade armor is not really what you want to use as 1H. And afaik Capacitor is only good for mages, sometimes not even for mages. You want Jugg but when you still have to even start soulfusing your equipment, i suggest dont care too much about the IW of your armor.

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I would've thought the +damage, accuracy, crit, and evade would make it better than regular armor, not to mention the lack of burden. Is light armor in general not as good for 1H?
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 03:06) *

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I would've thought the +damage, accuracy, crit, and evade would make it better than regular armor,
It is the evade that makes it general bad for 1H. There are three methods to avoid damage in this game. Evade, Block and Parry. And they try to prevent damage in that order. Block and Parry can not only lead to a counter-attack, but they can also increase your Overcharge, which is btw the reason why 1H can as long as you have at least 4 monster per round and you dont use it in another way stay indeffinitly in spirit stance. When you play 1H with a shade set which means high evade, you get of course a lesser chance for block and parry, also has shade a less burden, more agi, which both do increase your attack speed bonus and as 1H you dont really what attack speed bonus.

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Is light armor in general not as good for 1H?
Yes, it is not good for 1H. With light you play DW, or 2H, or Niten, but not 1H. Yeah, i know there are people out there who do that, but it is nothing but suboptimal. 1H and light/shade want different things who work against each other.
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post Apr 14 2019, 03:31
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 13 2019, 21:06) *

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I would've thought the +damage, accuracy, crit, and evade would make it better than regular armor, not to mention the lack of burden. Is light armor in general not as good for 1H?


It is better than plain leather or plain plate as you have already pointed out. However, for 1H, we want heavy armors because we are capable of getting hit and we are able to parry the attacks. (so burdens isn't necessarily a bad thing, but we don't actually want evades as we want to get hit and then parry. Note that, all of these are with the assumption that you can survive, else they do help in regard to survivability)

In your case, I would use it as it seems like you don't have a heavy set yet.
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post Apr 14 2019, 03:36
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QUOTE(Canico @ Apr 14 2019, 08:06) *

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I would've thought the +damage, accuracy, crit, and evade would make it better than regular armor, not to mention the lack of burden. Is light armor in general not as good for 1H?


power armor gives more damage, accuracy is irrelevant once you reach 200% (which is not that hard), 1h don't need evade as they already got enough parry and block, also a counter-stun for the icing on the cake. some even consider evade hampering their clear time.
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post Apr 14 2019, 04:40
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I'll just leave this here

Non imperil elemental is possible? Wat?
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post Apr 14 2019, 09:19
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Except that evade is desirable as 1H, at very high levels of block+parry...
But if those stats aren't high enough, yes it's counter-productive.
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