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post Apr 13 2019, 00:11
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okay, su just full heavy and the sheild and rapier.


and put all my points evenly into all stats, but keep my int at 0?


any advice for ability points? i can reset if i need.

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post Apr 13 2019, 00:19
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QUOTE(Drewman522 @ Apr 13 2019, 00:11) *

okay, su just full heavy and the sheild and rapier.
and put all my points evenly into all stats, but keep my int at 0?

Yes, when you play 1H, all that Int does give you are a few spirit points, but at your level, they dont matter that much.
QUOTE(Drewman522 @ Apr 13 2019, 00:11) *

any advice for ability points? i can reset if i need.

Well, general does look good, but you still have to slot them. Just make a left click on them, when they appear on top you know that they are sloted and by that active. You should also set all abilities in one handed and heavy armor.

For supportive i suggest better haste, stronger spirit, better heartseeker, better regen, better spark (that i suggest that to a new player doenst mean i use it myself) better protection and one of the spike shields, personally i prefer the flame spike shield.

Oh, i just did notice you dont have any ability points left, so i hope you have enough of them, if not you maybe should train a few level of Ability Boost to get enough.


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post Apr 13 2019, 00:25
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i actually have 290, they were just already spent. i reset so i'll put them into the areas you suggested. i have 64 levels in ability points in the training area.

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post Apr 13 2019, 00:31
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Well, that should be enough and you may also want to set some points at Deprecating in weaken and imperil, i didnt mention them before because they are compared to other abilities lesser important, but still usefull. And dont forgot the use the Auto-cast Slots you have. Hm, with four i suggest use them for Spark of Life, Haste, Protection and Spirit Shield.
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post Apr 13 2019, 00:32
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thanks a lot, you've been super helpful
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post Apr 13 2019, 00:39
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post Apr 13 2019, 01:30
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Drewman522 you have a bunch of gear that's obsolete, consider selling it to some collectors. You could fetch a decent amount for em.
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post Apr 13 2019, 02:04
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Drewman522 you have a bunch of gear that's obsolete, consider selling it to some collectors. You could fetch a decent amount for em.


On his case, I doubt about that.
From what he listed, most are old but not obsolete.
The obsoletes I notice are just two gossamers and an ebony staff.
Well that's at least based just on name, stats wise there are some stats here and there that won't be able to appear on current equipment generation. though I'm not really sure only that would make it fetch much.

But, he might have some more random things, as afaik he only list equips that looks good to be used.

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post Apr 13 2019, 02:35
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Apr 13 2019, 09:04) *

On his case, I doubt about that.
From what he listed, most are old but not obsolete.
The obsoletes I notice are just two gossamers and an ebony staff.
Well that's at least based just on name, stats wise there are some stats here and there that won't be able to appear on current equipment generation. though I'm not really sure only that would make it fetch much.

But, he might have some more random things, as afaik he only list equips that looks good to be used.


I imagine he didn't list everything he had...
Though I might be wrong.

Just letting him know that he might have some stuff that might not look like it's worth anything, but actually fetch a good price.
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post Apr 13 2019, 03:21
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im getting desperate for charged gear right now, do any extra elemental points above 1.0 prof matter? if not im just going to pay for some low rolled charged gear.

right now im aiming to replace 2 of my pieces with charged elementals so i will have 1.0 prof and 3 radiant pieces.

dunno if im going to be able to do pffest without heavily forging armors too cause my EDB is only going to be around 260% and MDB around 4.8k

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post Apr 13 2019, 03:32
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Apr 13 2019, 08:21) *

do any extra elemental points above 1.0 prof matter?


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post Apr 13 2019, 04:07
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Apr 13 2019, 01:21) *

dunno if im going to be able to do pffest without heavily forging armors too cause my EDB is only going to be around 260% and MDB around 4.8k

I don't think you can make it comfortably unless you are going to burn lots of vase/gum.
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post Apr 13 2019, 04:40
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 12 2019, 16:45) *

No, Burden and Interference kick in before all the cast buffs. So Haste, Heartseeker and Shadow Veil are pretty much guaranteed and applied as layers.
Actually, the wiki does answer that question, if you analyze the respective formulae. But I agree that it's not necessarily an easy thing to do for everyone, as it does require a certain level of mastery in maths.

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Thank you for the clarification. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The thing that threw me off is the "Base xxx increase: x%"wording, which made it sound like the buffs were applied first before the burden and interference penalty. It also made me question myself for always refreshing the buffs if it was all just a pointless excercise...
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post Apr 13 2019, 05:17
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Apr 12 2019, 20:07) *

I don't think you can make it comfortably unless you are going to burn lots of vase/gum.



just got worse, i'm only going to be able to get around .95 prof with max forge until i level base prof some more(currently 505). there just isnt enough decent rolled gear available to make this work.

I only have DDV so i don't know if this is going to work for me. maybe i just wait for better shoes to be available. the only one i could get right now is 20% prof and is pretty pricey for the low rolls. but it might be so expensive because it's literally the only one available.

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post Apr 13 2019, 07:13
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Apr 12 2019, 23:17) *

just got worse, i'm only going to be able to get around .95 prof with max forge until i level base prof some more(currently 505). there just isnt enough decent rolled gear available to make this work.

I only have DDV so i don't know if this is going to work for me. maybe i just wait for better shoes to be available. the only one i could get right now is 20% prof and is pretty pricey for the low rolls. but it might be so expensive because it's literally the only one available.


Why are you going for 1.0 prof factor if you are playing elemental mage? Non-imperil elemental mage isn't really a thing, and if you cast imperil anything beyond 0.78 isn't really significant.
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post Apr 13 2019, 07:40
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Apr 12 2019, 23:13) *

Why are you going for 1.0 prof factor if you are playing elemental mage? Non-imperil elemental mage isn't really a thing, and if you cast imperil anything beyond 0.78 isn't really significant.



I don't remember who but someone told me it was a thing though probably a heavily forged thing. If non-imperil elemental isn't a thing why would anyone prefer willow over redwood?

also does that mean radiant is useless for elemental since you need the cast speed to do imperil. if you have imperil the extra damage isn't needed right?

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post Apr 13 2019, 08:05
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Apr 13 2019, 07:40) *

I don't remember who but someone told me it was a thing though probably a heavily forged thing. If non-imperil elemental isn't a thing why would anyone prefer willow over redwood?

also does that mean radiant is useless for elemental since you need the cast speed to do imperil. if you have imperil the extra damage isn't needed right?


decondelite is playing 1.0 imperil style. Works for him. But every other elemental mage, me included when I played cold, used prof factor 0.68 to start with, or just a bit higher. Why? That is enough to give you a defensive boost and to counter the specific mitigation of most monsters. A bit higher is better, but above 0.78 only FSM will get easier in my experience. And that one you don't encounter much. And another reason is that it will cost you too much EDB firepower to use 1.0 prof factor.

My advice: start with 0.68 prof factor, as it will increase with your base prof anyway. Use 4+1. You don't need full charged to start with, that's way too expensive. Just replace plain gear for charged as you go.

Willow? Because there are matching willow staves for Elec and Wind, and Willow has counter resist. Do you maybe think you don't need that in imperil play? Well, you do. The more, the better.

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post Apr 13 2019, 08:11
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 13 2019, 00:05) *

decondelite is playing 1.0 imperil style. Works for him. But every other elemental mage, me included when I played cold, used prof factor 0.68 to start with, or just a bit higher. Why? That is enough to give you a defensive boost and to counter the specific mitigation of most monsters. A bit higher is better, but above 0.78 only FSM will get easier in my experience. And that one you don't encounter much. And another reason is that it will cost you too much EDB firepower to use 1.0 prof factor.

My advice: start with 0.68 prof factor, as it will increase with your base prof anyway. Use 4+1. You don't need full charged to start with, that's way too expensive. Just replace plain gear for charged as you go.

Willow? Because there are matching willow staves for Elec and Wind, and Willow has counter resist. Do you maybe think you don't need that in imperil play? Well, you do. The more, the better.



so does that mean radiant is kind of garbage for (WIND)elemental PFfest and imperil is necessary even with 1.0 prof?

i'm currently using 4 radiant and 1 charged elem but i was going to replace the radiant boots to bring me close to 1.0

so if non-imperil elemental isnt possible the goal is to go all charged then?

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post Apr 13 2019, 08:27
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Apr 13 2019, 01:11) *

so does that mean radiant is kind of garbage for (WIND)elemental and imperil is necessary even with 1.0 prof?

i'm currently using 4 radiant and 1 charged elem but i was going to replace the radiant boots to bring me close to 1.0

so if non-imperil elemental isnt possible the goal is to go all charged then?


Radiant is good when survival isn't an issue (e.g. arenas, especially the SG arenas). I think if the goal is GF then probably mostly charged will be necessary until you are forged enough that you can get radiants again?

Edit: also, no need to go to 1.0 if you are imperil - as mentioned 0.7-0.8 is sufficient, so you can make do with 1 cotton for a bit more firepower from the extra phase.

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QUOTE(jackalo @ Apr 13 2019, 01:21) *

im getting desperate for charged gear right now, do any extra elemental points above 1.0 prof matter? if not im just going to pay for some low rolled charged gear.

right now im aiming to replace 2 of my pieces with charged elementals so i will have 1.0 prof and 3 radiant pieces.

dunno if im going to be able to do pffest without heavily forging armors too cause my EDB is only going to be around 260% and MDB around 4.8k

Anything beyond 1.0 prof factor is complete waste.
2 prof+3 radiants is my cool mage cheap set, and it works veeery well, for its intended purpose.
But frankly, if for arena purposes such a setup is a beast, that won't do for PFFEST without the max forging. Or maybe even with it.

Keep in mind aswell that if I use 1.0 prof factor, it's for arena purpose only. The pro of a 1.0 factor is to be able to clear rounds faster, as monsters that failed to be imperiled will take less blasts to die (basically you brute-force them). The other benefit of a 1.0 prof factor is that you will have slightly more counter-resist, which can make the difference at times. But the con is that imperiled monsters will sometimes need one more blast to die, which is a no-no during PFFEST.

See to it that imperil elemental with 1.0 prof factor is mostly fit to do the daily arena/RoB grind at a very decent speed and with a low cost. But when it comes to serious stuff, you need them imperil'd dudes to take the least blasts to die possible.

Az for non-imperil elemental... well it plays out roughly the same than for holy/dark, except that your spells base power is lower. So it's certainly not as efficient.

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