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I need some advice before making a rather pricey bid for a weapon. I don't have very much in credits, so bidding on this could use up most of what I currently have.

I'm using a Legendary Arctic Shortsword of Slaughter at the moment:

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/122317305/5685ff84a2

I came across this Peerless Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter currently being offered for auction:

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/188272051/1a4284c97a

Would it be a good idea to upgrade my current Legendary shortsword to this Peerless one? The thing is, I've never used an Ethereal weapon before. Also, the specs of the Peerless shortsword seem to be lower than the one I'm currently using (I can't see the original pre-upgrade specs of my weapon).

Some good advice would be truly appreciated. Thanks!

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What is your entire build like?
Is the shortsword for dual wielding? 1H? Is your armor light? Heavy?

What is your entire build like?
Is the shortsword for dual wielding? 1H? Is your armor light? Heavy?

1H. I use light armor (Peerless Shade helmet, breastplate, and gauntlets; Legendary Shade leggings and boots). I do not intend to use or shift to heavy armor.

Is it worth starting a Heimdall Set with a Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of The Heaven-sent ?!?

If you want to play holy - sure, it's better to start gaining prof asap. Considering katalox - it's good enough if it's matched, but keep in mind that almost any positive L stat LHOH is better than peerless katalox (for example with basic forging my 0% mdb - 36% edb - 21% prof LHOH is ~10% better than 77 - 65 - 55 Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of
Heimdall)

This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Apr 4 2019, 14:11

1H. I use light armor (Peerless Shade helmet, breastplate, and gauntlets; Legendary Shade leggings and boots). I do not intend to use or shift to heavy armor.

Hmmm... If you're going light, might as well go dual-wield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Or if you're going 1H, might as well swap to rapier.
By just going for shortsword you are missing out on penetrated armor procs.

Would it be a good idea to upgrade my current Legendary shortsword to this Peerless one? The thing is, I've never used an Ethereal weapon before. Also, the specs of the Peerless shortsword seem to be lower than the one I'm currently using (I can't see the original pre-upgrade specs of my weapon).

Some good advice would be truly appreciated. Thanks!

1H. I use light armor (Peerless Shade helmet, breastplate, and gauntlets; Legendary Shade leggings and boots). I do not intend to use or shift to heavy armor.

As long as you play light armor, ethereal is more preferred imo. Also peerless is always better than their legendary counterpart, you leg arctic has better spec because of the IW and the forge, if you IW and forge the peerless exactly the same as your leg arctic then without a doubt the peerless will be the better one.

So, I'm curious about daily arenas.

So far I don't really go through all of them (DwD, Trio and then either the entire first page, or most of the first page plus another SG arena)

There's a total of 1,264 rounds you have to clear if you want to do all arenas.

According to the wiki, it's 0.04 stamina per round (when at Great).
So that's 500 rounds till you reach normal (20 stamina used);
Then at 0.02 per round, another 15.28 stamina.

So to do all arenas you need 35.28 stamina


Stamina regens at 24 per day so....
How the fuck can you actually do ALL "daily" arenas? Unless you're chugging energy drinks daily (and even then that's only 34 daily stamina)

Am I missing something super obvious or smth?
Cause seems to me that unless you have lgbd and chug an energy drink per day, after ~78 days or so you should be at 0 stamina. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
And if you don't drink EDs at all, that's like barely 9 days till you are at 0!

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Apr 4 2019, 15:46

So, I'm curious about daily arenas.

So far I don't really go through all of them (DwD, Trio and then either the entire first page, or most of the first page plus another SG arena)

There's a total of 1,264 rounds you have to clear if you want to do all arenas.

According to the wiki, it's 0.04 stamina per round (when at Great).
So that's 500 rounds till you reach normal (20 stamina used);
Then at 0.02 per round, another 15.28 stamina.

So to do all arenas you need 35.28 stamina
Stamina regens at 24 per day so....
How the fuck can you actually do ALL "daily" arenas? Unless you're chugging energy drinks daily (and even then that's only 34 daily stamina)

Am I missing something super obvious or smth?
Cause seems to me that unless you have lgbd and chug an energy drink per day, after ~78 days or so you should be at 0 stamina. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
And if you don't drink EDs at all, that's like barely 9 days till you are at 0!

I don't do all arenas, if I have time I do DWD, 100, and 80 arenas on great stamina and then do 25 until 75 arenas on normal stamina, this cost roughly 24 hours.
If I'm lazy I just do 60 until 80 arenas and 100 and DWD on great stamina, this cost exactly 24 hours.
The first one I roughly get 200k income and the second one roughly 150k, not including the trophies.

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You didn't adjust your calculation for being below 80 when you start (ie, that 1264 rounds suddenly takes 25.28 stamina, so just drop some of the weakest arenas and you'll break even on stamina usage.) - actually, I think you might have done given the 78ish days number, but yeah, you can't do ALL of them robotically forever. It's not worth it though, for basically any reason:

Dreamfall (1.2x mod) is roughly where it becomes equivalent in terms of exp to doing pf IW at about 90 rounds. IWBTH Fest is only slightly worse. Can't comment on profitability, didn't record enough data for that. I do all the arenas down to Exile and that lets me build a little stamina, which I occasionally dump on IWs. If you want to remain higher than 80 stamina for DWD, 80, 100 to get the most exp/stamina you'll have to do fewer arenas, at the cost of drops etc. Probably doesn't matter to you, with your hathrate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by lestion: Apr 4 2019, 16:00

You didn't adjust your calculation for being below 80 when you start. Also, Dreamfall (1.2x mod) is roughly where it becomes equivalent in terms of exp to doing pf IW at about 90 rounds. IWFest is only slightly worse. Can't comment on profitability, didn't record enough data for that. I do all the arenas down to Exile and that lets me build a little stamina, which I occasionally dump on IWs. If you want to remain higher than 80 stamina for DWD, 80, 100 to get the most exp/stamina you'll have to do fewer arenas, at the cost of drops etc. Probably doesn't matter to you, with your hathrate (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I don't really care about the profitability/exp from arenas.
I'm just annoyed that everyone keeps calling them "daily" when you can't realistically do all of them every day (unless you like throwing EDs at the problem) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You didn't adjust your calculation for being below 80 when you start (ie, that 1264 rounds suddenly takes 25.28 stamina, so just drop some of the weakest arenas and you'll break even on stamina usage.) - actually, I think you might have done given the 78ish days number, but yeah, you can't do ALL of them robotically forever. It's not worth it though, for basically any reason:

Oooh so you just stay below greater stamina and remove one ~64 round arena from the equation and you stay at even stamina :000 I see

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Apr 4 2019, 16:01

Am I missing something super obvious or smth?

Yeah, when you are below 80 stamina you get 50 rounds out of a single stamina point, instead of the 25 rounds above 80. And a daily ED is not really a problem. I drink at least one ED of not two and i still get enough to sell them in my shop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Sorry, had to edit my post a few times for accuracy and I didn't realise you'd already replied (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yes, I don't think anyone is doing all of them daily... the lower level ones just don't have any value to anyone except those incapable of any higher content.

my haste has a duration of 70 rounds without and 105 with channeling

That's pretty low (except if you really mean rounds instead of turns, that would be impressive). I don't know about non-channeling, but with channeling it's about 170 turns for me.

That's pretty low (except if you really mean rounds instead of turns, that would be impressive). I don't know about non-channeling, but with channeling it's about 170 turns for me.

I wonder if it's without Better Haste slotted? Mine is at 140 without channelling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yes, I don't think anyone is doing all of them daily...

Well think what you want, but i do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

That's pretty low (except if you really mean rounds instead of turns, that would be impressive). I don't know about non-channeling, but with channeling it's about 170 turns for me.

Yeah, of course i mean turns. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) And yeah, well, i just did notice i didnt have the haste ability sloted, dont need them anyway. But the numbers from protection should still be enough to actually compare them and say if their turns increase.

Well, actually i would say it should increase the duration. But lets be sure, my support prof is higher than yours and my haste has a duration of 70 rounds without and 105 with channeling and protection of 210 without and 315 with channeling. And what are your durations?

Thanks! my durations is the same as you. So as sickentide said, maybe the duration of Protection and Haste has reached its limit.

the increase from proficiency caps out at a certain proficiency level, depending on spell. the reason you're seeing increases on regen and arcane focus but not on others is that those two have a higher cap

Thanks! Is this it? Supportive Spells column "prof" which means "Minimum base prof needed to unlock the spell/Effective prof that maximizes spell's effects".

So as sickentide said, maybe the duration of Protection and Haste has reached its limit.

Hm, so how did my upkeep reduced when that is the case? Until now i tought, the duration gets increased, so you get overall more turns for your mana and that way of course your upkeep decrease. Hm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

the lower level ones just don't have any value to anyone except those incapable of any higher content.

I think it's still worth it, specifically because something like a 5 round arena takes seconds to clear and you get this:

High chance for a Token drop.
Gives a 15~25% chance for a token drop
Increased loot drop chances in last round (same as on Random Encounter).

Sorry, had to edit my post a few times for accuracy and I didn't realise you'd already replied (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yes, I don't think anyone is doing all of them daily... the lower level ones just don't have any value to anyone except those incapable of any higher content.

I do...
I do play all arenas absolutely everyday. Because tokens and because monster equip drop chance in the last round.
It costs only one ED once in a while.

And yeah, well, i just did notice i didnt have the haste ability sloted, dont need them anyway.

Doh, didn't even think about that, since using the supportive abilities is a no-brainer for me.

On the duration of spells, I found this on the wiki:

Durations can be increased by maximum a factor of 7 (supportive/curative spells) or 4 (everything else).

So, this means, max duration should be:

Without abilities:
Regen: 98
Protection/Spark of Life/Spirit Shield: 105
Haste/Shadow Veil: 70
Heartseeker/Arcane Focus: 350

With maxed abilities:
Regen/Protection/Spark of Life/Spirit Shield: 210
Haste/Shadow Veil: 140
Heartseeker/Arcane Focus: 700

Multiply with 1.5 if Chaneeling is used.

This post has been edited by Nicosai: Apr 4 2019, 18:10