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post Mar 24 2019, 05:55
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post Mar 24 2019, 06:38
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 23 2019, 13:23) *

Hm, hard to say imo. Both shadowdancer, both zircon. But i would say the Level 500. I mean damage are both quite similiar but that one has much better evade. Also higher crit chance and more dex. Yeah, i would go for that one.


I concur, the pmit difference is huge too. The main draw to the first one is that it's just lower level so more easily accessible, but the second one is easily the better soulfuse choice
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post Mar 24 2019, 06:45
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 24 2019, 05:38) *

the pmit difference is huge too.
Is PM even actually a criteria for a shade set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 07:07
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 23 2019, 15:23) *

Hm, hard to say imo. Both shadowdancer, both zircon. But i would say the Level 500. I mean damage are both quite similiar but that one has much better evade. Also higher crit chance and more dex. Yeah, i would go for that one.

QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 24 2019, 06:38) *

I concur, the pmit difference is huge too. The main draw to the first one is that it's just lower level so more easily accessible, but the second one is easily the better soulfuse choice

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Is PM even actually a criteria for a shade set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Well as long as the evade character stat isn't 100% pmit is important too.
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post Mar 24 2019, 07:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 04:45) *

Is PM even actually a criteria for a shade set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Hell yeah it is, more than 90% of the damage I'm taking is physical. Magic comes in bursts sometimes, but it's still really rare for that to be a serious danger to me (disregarding later PFest, but that's neither here nor there since it's totally impossible for me at this point, and DW is really, really unsuitable for that mode).

Even if I was running a rapier MH waki nimble OH and looking at 90-95% parry as well as 60-70% evade... I'd still bet on phys doing more to me over time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

That said, judging from both my own IFest clear time, and lololo's not being a TON faster, I'm really not sure pfest is ever really going to be a good use of time if I insist on staying DW.
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:08
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So you two would say no to a piece with greate evade, great crit and great damage when the PM is bad? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:09
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 08:08) *

So you two would say no to a piece with greate evade, great crit and great damage when the PM is bad? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Hell no, it's "important too" not "more important".
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:33
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So it is not really a criteria.
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:46
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 08:33) *

So it is not really a criteria.

Uh, but it is though.
Your example is basically "you wouldn't pick an armor with 3 great points but 1 bad point?". Of course I would it, it's 3 against 1, who wouldn't? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 09:09
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Okay then let me ask it this way. Would you tell me the important stats of a shade armor in order as you see them? I would say, as someone who hasnt played with a shade in quite a while, 1st evade. 2nd crit chance. 3rd Damage. 4th Dex. As you see PM doesnt even appear in that list.
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post Mar 24 2019, 09:21
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 07:09) *

Okay then let me ask it this way. Would you tell me the important stats of a shade armor in order as you see them? I would say, as someone who hasnt played with a shade in quite a while, 1st evade. 2nd crit chance. 3rd Damage. 4th Dex. As you see PM doesnt even appear in that list.


That doesn't mean it's useless? It's nice to have even if it's weighted lower than the others. I didn't say anything about it being the most important. Just that it was another stat on the piece that made it more desirable than the other option. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 09:38
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 09:09) *

Okay then let me ask it this way. Would you tell me the important stats of a shade armor in order as you see them? I would say, as someone who hasnt played with a shade in quite a while, 1st evade. 2nd crit chance. 3rd Damage. 4th Dex. As you see PM doesnt even appear in that list.

No, what doesn't appear is piercing mitigation. As long as it is included in the armor stat it is still a factor to be considered. It's just that pmit is less prominent in shade armor, but not entirely not considered.
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post Mar 24 2019, 09:39
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I ask a question, i dont present a fact. Didnt you notice that i said explicit, that i myself havent played with a shade armor in quite a while? So when i dont know something like that, and am only able to estimate the actual importance of something like PM for a shade set, i have to ask the opinion of people who do play it. And that is what my post is about. Dont let the fact that i did wrote in the same post, what imo are the important stats, confuse you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Ehm, i am talking about Physical Mitigation. That is what i mean when i write PM. That piercing mitigation doesnt appear on light armor is something i am well aware. Well except on ancient kevlar armor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Mar 24 2019, 09:55
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Uh, yeah? And I'm telling you that your opinion doesn't necessarily correct.
You said that the important factor are only 4, but does that mean the others are not important? or less important? or maybe useless?
That's why I said it is still a thing to be considered as it is still listed in the stat, though it is not one of the most important factors, what really doesn't has any matter whatsoever is piercing mitigation as it's literally not included in the stat.
I know I'm just nitpicking here, but people can have different conclusions by reading your opinion earlier.
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post Mar 24 2019, 10:01
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Ehm, do you refuse to read what i actually wrote? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 08:39) *

I ask a question, i dont present a fact.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 08:39) *

i am talking about Physical Mitigation. That is what i mean when i write PM.
But you know what? I have stoped to care about an answer. All i wanted was to read your opinion and i dont even understand, why you even refuse to notice that. But i am really not in the mood to continue this. Have a nice day. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Mar 24 2019, 10:35
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 09:39) *

I ask a question, i dont present a fact.

Uh, you did asked a question but straight away giving opinion after:
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 09:09) *

Okay then let me ask it this way. Would you tell me the important stats of a shade armor in order as you see them? I would say, as someone who hasnt played with a shade in quite a while, 1st evade. 2nd crit chance. 3rd Damage. 4th Dex. As you see PM doesnt even appear in that list.

So then I said that your opinion doesn't necessarily correct because I assume you doesn't consider the other stat at all, that's why I asked:
QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 24 2019, 09:55) *

You said that the important factor are only 4, but does that mean the others are not important? or less important? or maybe useless?

And you can't see this as my answer to your question?
QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 24 2019, 09:38) *

As long as it is included in the armor stat it is still a factor to be considered.

Then let me spell it in more detail and rank it for you.
As long as it is included in the armor stat it is still a factor to be considered. But if I have to rank it then imo as a DW player it's evade>adb>agi>crit chance>accu>dex>str>pmit>mmit>resist>dmit>interference, based on the pieces that I asked about.
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post Mar 24 2019, 14:54
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So I just IW an equipment and I got Juggernaut Lv.4 Capacitor Lv.4 Windproof Lv.2, do you guys thing I should reforge it and aim for jugg 5, or the capa 4 is quite good bonus mmm...~?
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post Mar 24 2019, 15:21
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So I just IW an equipment and I got Juggernaut Lv.4 Capacitor Lv.4 Windproof Lv.2, do you guys thing I should reforge it and aim for jugg 5, or the capa 4 is quite good bonus mmm...~?

Capacitor is crappy.
If you think Jug4 is acceptable keep it.
Otherwise reforge.

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post Mar 24 2019, 15:33
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Mar 24 2019, 20:21) *

Capacitor is crappy.
If you think Jug4 is acceptable keep it.
Otherwise reforge.


Yeah I guess so, time to reforge I guess mmm...
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post Mar 24 2019, 17:28
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Mar 24 2019, 09:21) *

Capacitor is crappy.
If you think Jug4 is acceptable keep it.
Otherwise reforge.


Is capacitor crappy even on a mage? What would you say is the best second potency for mage in general?
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