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post Mar 23 2019, 14:59
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 10 2019, 16:56) *

I kept my data in a spreadsheet instead, here are the most recent results: (sheet gfProfit for recent run data, itemPriceUsages for average usages/loots or such).

[drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/16AFvrkQeAm...iew?usp=sharing

My stats are as in the screenshot above, which is not much different (if not slightly inferior) to yours.

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QUOTE(kikikaki @ Mar 23 2019, 19:52) *

GF will cost 20 stamina right?
So...does its income value exceed 200K?
It's two eds value.
I have no Crystarium I. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Highly depends on your training levels and perks. The average revenue in t_t_z's spreadsheet is around 540k, and the cost would be consumables and EDs.
If you have the LGBD perk and Crystal V, the profit of your daily first run would easily exceed 250k.
If not, ummm.....
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post Mar 23 2019, 15:03
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If I were to soulfuse one of these in the future, which one is better?

First
Second

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post Mar 23 2019, 15:23
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 23 2019, 14:03) *

If I were to soulfuse one of these in the future, which one is better?
Hm, hard to say imo. Both shadowdancer, both zircon. But i would say the Level 500. I mean damage are both quite similiar but that one has much better evade. Also higher crit chance and more dex. Yeah, i would go for that one.
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post Mar 23 2019, 16:48
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QUOTE(kikikaki @ Mar 23 2019, 18:52) *

GF will cost 20 stamina right?
So...does its income value exceed 200K?
It's two eds value.
I have no Crystarium I. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


it's actually 21 1 stamina to enter the GF and 20 for the round.

the income will vary from person to person.
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post Mar 23 2019, 19:52
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IW for Estoc... Butcher5 Overpower4? with heavy armour
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post Mar 23 2019, 19:58
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 23 2019, 18:52) *

IW for Estoc... Butcher5 Overpower4? with heavy armour

would work great, yes.
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post Mar 23 2019, 20:07
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 23 2019, 17:52) *

IW for Estoc... Butcher5 Overpower4? with heavy armour

It's safe to assume that Estoc is best played with O5B4 and shade armor.
Mostly because PA benefits from attack speed and makes up for the lower ADB that shade has compared to power.
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post Mar 24 2019, 02:27
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haven't played in prob half a year or so, any thing new or interesting happening soon?
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post Mar 24 2019, 02:41
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Mar 23 2019, 21:27) *

haven't played in prob half a year or so, any thing new or interesting happening soon?


Welcome back! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

About the game, nothing new. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 05:55
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When does easter event usually start?
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post Mar 24 2019, 06:38
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 23 2019, 13:23) *

Hm, hard to say imo. Both shadowdancer, both zircon. But i would say the Level 500. I mean damage are both quite similiar but that one has much better evade. Also higher crit chance and more dex. Yeah, i would go for that one.


I concur, the pmit difference is huge too. The main draw to the first one is that it's just lower level so more easily accessible, but the second one is easily the better soulfuse choice
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post Mar 24 2019, 06:45
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 24 2019, 05:38) *

the pmit difference is huge too.
Is PM even actually a criteria for a shade set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 07:07
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 23 2019, 15:23) *

Hm, hard to say imo. Both shadowdancer, both zircon. But i would say the Level 500. I mean damage are both quite similiar but that one has much better evade. Also higher crit chance and more dex. Yeah, i would go for that one.

QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 24 2019, 06:38) *

I concur, the pmit difference is huge too. The main draw to the first one is that it's just lower level so more easily accessible, but the second one is easily the better soulfuse choice

Thank you for the advices. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Is PM even actually a criteria for a shade set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Well as long as the evade character stat isn't 100% pmit is important too.
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post Mar 24 2019, 07:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 04:45) *

Is PM even actually a criteria for a shade set? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Hell yeah it is, more than 90% of the damage I'm taking is physical. Magic comes in bursts sometimes, but it's still really rare for that to be a serious danger to me (disregarding later PFest, but that's neither here nor there since it's totally impossible for me at this point, and DW is really, really unsuitable for that mode).

Even if I was running a rapier MH waki nimble OH and looking at 90-95% parry as well as 60-70% evade... I'd still bet on phys doing more to me over time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

That said, judging from both my own IFest clear time, and lololo's not being a TON faster, I'm really not sure pfest is ever really going to be a good use of time if I insist on staying DW.
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:08
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So you two would say no to a piece with greate evade, great crit and great damage when the PM is bad? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:09
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 08:08) *

So you two would say no to a piece with greate evade, great crit and great damage when the PM is bad? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Hell no, it's "important too" not "more important".
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:33
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So it is not really a criteria.
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post Mar 24 2019, 08:46
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 08:33) *

So it is not really a criteria.

Uh, but it is though.
Your example is basically "you wouldn't pick an armor with 3 great points but 1 bad point?". Of course I would it, it's 3 against 1, who wouldn't? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Mar 24 2019, 09:09
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Okay then let me ask it this way. Would you tell me the important stats of a shade armor in order as you see them? I would say, as someone who hasnt played with a shade in quite a while, 1st evade. 2nd crit chance. 3rd Damage. 4th Dex. As you see PM doesnt even appear in that list.
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post Mar 24 2019, 09:21
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 24 2019, 07:09) *

Okay then let me ask it this way. Would you tell me the important stats of a shade armor in order as you see them? I would say, as someone who hasnt played with a shade in quite a while, 1st evade. 2nd crit chance. 3rd Damage. 4th Dex. As you see PM doesnt even appear in that list.


That doesn't mean it's useless? It's nice to have even if it's weighted lower than the others. I didn't say anything about it being the most important. Just that it was another stat on the piece that made it more desirable than the other option. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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