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Mar 16 2019, 05:30
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t_t_z
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Mar 15 2019, 21:27)  Thanks for the advice. Though I'm kind of curious. For the Crystarium hath perks, at which level should I stop at?
Well it'll depend on how much GF you do, so that depends. However I'd suggest to put resplendent regeneration / suffusive spirit on extremely low priority (maybe even after you maxed out crys / token, perhaps long gone before daylight too, maybe even some daemon duality levels; this is provided you already got your vigorous vitality / innate arcana already ofc) Resplendent regeneration only includes your in-combat natural regeneration (consumables / Regen spell don't count), it amounts to pretty much nothing. Suffusive spirit increases your base spirit, however your main sources of spirit loss (spirit shield, spark of life) scales with max base SP as well; thus it is only of use to the relative amount consumed by spirit stance per turn.
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Mar 16 2019, 09:05
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Insania @ Mar 15 2019, 21:17)  Hmm... I think that you can better use Live Percental Ranges and HV Utils, those give almost the same features. But those are maintained.
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Mar 16 2019, 10:10
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 16 2019, 14:05)  Hmm... I think that you can better use Live Percental Ranges and HV Utils, those give almost the same features. But those are maintained.
yeah, that script basically show how your magic score (as shown on equipment page by HVUtils) change if you swap the equip. the formula is more or less the same anyway (different in how it weight the crit maybe). the way it's better is that you don't have to actually change the equip to see the change and you don't even have to open the equipment window (via 'c')
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Mar 16 2019, 10:16
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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So I thought Holy/Dark spells would always have higher multiplier than elemental spells, but it turns out that when you max abilities for elemental spells, they're the same.
Is Ripenend Soul/Soul Fire THAT powerful for them to be able to run the non-imperil style, which is only viable for dark/holy essentially?
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Mar 16 2019, 10:49
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 16 2019, 17:16)  So I thought Holy/Dark spells would always have higher multiplier than elemental spells, but it turns out that when you max abilities for elemental spells, they're the same.
Is Ripenend Soul/Soul Fire THAT powerful for them to be able to run the non-imperil style, which is only viable for dark/holy essentially?
I always thought it's because of the resistances? That holy/dark resistances for mobs are simply not as high as elemental ones? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Mar 16 2019, 12:02
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 16 2019, 09:16)  So I thought Holy/Dark spells would always have higher multiplier than elemental spells, but it turns out that when you max abilities for elemental spells, they're the same.
Is Ripenend Soul/Soul Fire THAT powerful for them to be able to run the non-imperil style, which is only viable for dark/holy essentially?
almost the same. Not the same. And, yes you can play elemental mage without imperil, it has been done before. Imperil + element is however such a strong combination, that it is hard to give up. And Holy of course has 10% breached defense benefit. So it's just Dark that sucks. That's why I play Dark. Just like I played Cold as imperil style. Choose the style that everyone says that it sucks and just make it work. To prove that you don't have to run like lemmings after the 'best meta'. Feel free to go for Holy - that's undeniably the best. QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 16 2019, 09:49)  I always thought it's because of the resistances? That holy/dark resistances for mobs are simply not as high as elemental ones? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Monster_Classes there is some effect, yes. Check the color chart, less 'green' for dark/holy This post has been edited by DJNoni: Mar 16 2019, 12:06
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Mar 16 2019, 14:20
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 16 2019, 10:02)  almost the same. Not the same. And, yes you can play elemental mage without imperil, it has been done before. Imperil + element is however such a strong combination, that it is hard to give up. And Holy of course has 10% breached defense benefit. So it's just Dark that sucks. That's why I play Dark. Just like I played Cold as imperil style. Choose the style that everyone says that it sucks and just make it work. To prove that you don't have to run like lemmings after the 'best meta'. Feel free to go for Holy - that's undeniably the best. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Monster_Classes there is some effect, yes. Check the color chart, less 'green' for dark/holy Playing dark may suck, but it's Dark. Enough reasons to play it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Mar 16 2019, 18:08
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 11 2019, 06:09)  I'll try checking the damage received next time I do GF at round 450 and post it for you then. Here's total damage taken / usages at round 450 for me: [ drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9VpCTuCdO...iew?usp=sharingHere's mine  my first try this week sorry, I did try with Imperil this time ( 500 less Imperil's than you though? ) if I were to use the script more with things like "strongest" I think I can manage a lot better.. but that time hurts so much I cant keep my arm in the same position for 2hours (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) no idea how others do that This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Mar 16 2019, 18:11
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Mar 16 2019, 18:26
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 16 2019, 06:02)  almost the same. Not the same. And, yes you can play elemental mage without imperil, it has been done before. Imperil + element is however such a strong combination, that it is hard to give up. And Holy of course has 10% breached defense benefit. So it's just Dark that sucks. That's why I play Dark. Just like I played Cold as imperil style. Choose the style that everyone says that it sucks and just make it work. To prove that you don't have to run like lemmings after the 'best meta'. Feel free to go for Holy - that's undeniably the best.
Holy's SO expensive tho lolol. Hmm I thought dark imperil was almost as good as wind/elec thanks to the higher dark edb rolls on willow, but I guess there's some significant difference? How much do you think would it cost me to transit a imperil Dark set to a non-imperil Dark set? If it takes way too much, I might as well just build the non-holy imperil while keeping charged dark set lol. But then again, it's so far into the future that it's almost meaningless (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Hell, by the time I get the funds to build the holy set, another version of HV might roll out and things may change for good haha.
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Mar 16 2019, 19:41
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 17 2019, 01:26)  But then again, it's so far into the future that it's almost meaningless (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Hell, by the time I get the funds to build the holy set, another version of HV might roll out and things may change for good haha. Shit I think at this point investing into DD might be more worth it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 16 2019, 19:49
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mouisaac
Group: Gold Star Club
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Just to double check, why finish AL training first before getting the thinking cap? Isn't it cost more to get AL from 260 to 285 then to get the cap with an additive 25%? Or does it applies differently?
and is Jug4 proof6 > Jug5 Cap5?
This post has been edited by mouisaac: Mar 16 2019, 19:51
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Mar 16 2019, 19:54
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Mar 16 2019, 18:49)  Just to double check, why finish AL training first before getting the thinking cap? Isn't it cost more to get AL from 260 to 285 then to get the cap with an additive 25%? Or does it applies differently? and is Jug4 proof6 > Jug5 Cap5?
Thinking cap is also nice, just get it already. Jug4 sum of proof 6 is also fine. Just not AWESOME. And we want AWESOME, don't we? No seriously. It hardly matters at all.
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Mar 16 2019, 20:03
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mouisaac
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 31-March 18

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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 16 2019, 13:54)  Thinking cap is also nice, just get it already. Jug4 sum of proof 6 is also fine. Just not AWESOME. And we want AWESOME, don't we? No seriously. It hardly matters at all.
ok, will try to get the cap For the sake of awesomeness, I'll reforge it again...or not. my leggings: Jug4 proof6 -> Jug4 proof6 -> jug5 cap5 my helmet: Jug4 proof 6 -> Jug4 proof6 -> Jug4 proof6 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) my useless collections: jug5 np (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 16 2019, 20:15
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 28-April 14

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Well, thinking cap is not worth it only if you can't afford both. The benefit of exp perk is that it gets activated immediately.
So when I was around lv250 on AL I went ahead and unlocked all the exp perks.
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Mar 16 2019, 20:25
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t_t_z
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 351
Joined: 25-December 12

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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 16 2019, 12:08)  if I were to use the script more with things like "strongest" I think I can manage a lot better.. but that time hurts so much I cant keep my arm in the same position for 2hours (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) no idea how others do that It seems quite reasonable. I sometimes keep on spamming imperil when I see there's still a clump of 2 or more enemies without it (which is not too rare since I started using imperil just the past few month or so I think? Deprecating proficiency still below level so bunch of resists). You're using less consumables than me lol (and only 5 full/cures wow), Might be you having higher defense, or maybe I just set my alerts too high. (kind of want to pay it safer, especially for later rounds). All in all, it definitely seems doable with those usages. Did you flee just to take a screenshot of the info? Yeah my arm sometimes hurts too, luckily still young. I generally just watch anime/videos/ *hentai* on one of my other screens haha.
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Mar 16 2019, 20:47
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 19-October 11

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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 16 2019, 19:25)  It seems quite reasonable. I sometimes keep on spamming imperil when I see there's still a clump of 2 or more enemies without it (which is not too rare since I started using imperil just the past few month or so I think? Deprecating proficiency still below level so bunch of resists). You're using less consumables than me lol (and only 5 full/cures wow), Might be you having higher defense, or maybe I just set my alerts too high. (kind of want to pay it safer, especially for later rounds).
All in all, it definitely seems doable with those usages. Did you flee just to take a screenshot of the info?
Yeah my arm sometimes hurts too, luckily still young. I generally just watch anime/videos/*hentai* on one of my other screens haha.
Yes to compare the statistics I had to flee at the same round (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I did use some Health potions though.. 11 what I really need is to set up some strongest for Cure-Full cure and definetly the draughts, I had to use Health draught pretty early on - at 410 or so? and using health/mana/spirit draught all together and even Imperil with 3 hotkeys, which makes 6 hotkeys before starting to hover is pretty exhausting (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I dont think I changed my alerts, should be the default of the script or maybe a bit lower. I will definetly post 1-2 Pffests until that round, 1 with my usually playstyle with Imperil starting at the later rounds. btw: you should forge your equipment higher : ) and your boots/leggings are at 0 This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Mar 16 2019, 20:49
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Mar 16 2019, 22:01
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t_t_z
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 351
Joined: 25-December 12

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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 16 2019, 14:47)  btw: you should forge your equipment higher : ) and your boots/leggings are at 0
Yeah I probably should at this point... just hesitating since the pieces aren't that good and also can't resell (will lose 10% of the mats from salvage), probably going to replace them soon.
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Mar 17 2019, 07:37
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Drksrpnt
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Before I get the perk, I have to ask: does higher base spirit via Suffusive Spirit increase your spirit regen as well?
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Mar 17 2019, 08:15
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Mar 17 2019, 06:37)  Before I get the perk, I have to ask: does higher base spirit via Suffusive Spirit increase your spirit regen as well?
I did not see my number change after buying that, but before Iam lying not 100% sure
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