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So do i get that right? It is suppose to be part of a defensive set you want to have befor start getting a slaughter set and this is the best armor you can come up with and also your second of warding for that defensive build that is suppose to be for PFest?

yeah, pretty much
but now I think of it maybe I shouldn't waste my fragments
however, I don't know if I will ever soul fuse anything...
maybe you often want to soul fuse something under your level when you are 500 I guess?


here are my armors for each kind:

My balance: Legendary Zircon Power Armor of Balance (my first Jug5 Cap5)
My protection: Legendary Amber Power Armor of Protection (My first Jug5 Holy5)
My warding: Legendary Savage Power Armor of Warding (My first failure Jug4)
Replacement: Legendary Savage Power Armor of Warding (My nth failure)

What I originally thought was that it seems to be a pretty good armor for being defensive while still having adb, and it isn't like slaughters which are worth millions, also atm everything else I'm wearing is protection so I guess a warding suffix should be suitable in my case? (I know you are using 2 warding + 3 protection but just wondering if all protection works better in some cases... my shield is also protection)
Now I think of it, I do have the materials to forge them, so maybe forge a slaughter set is a better option...

This post has been edited by mouisaac: Mar 13 2019, 07:14

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Okay, all you person who all the time tell people to never soulfuse anything. I. Hate. All. Of. You.

And mouisaac. The armor is good, great imo actually, if you want to use it. Soulfuse it. If you dont want to use it. Dont soulfuse it. And personally i would suggest for a defensive build a mix made of 2 warding 3 protection. And when i look at the attacks that still can be dangerious to me. Well lets just say 9 from the last 10 times i got killed. The attack was casted not used aka it was magic, therefore cant i see why a full protection set could be better in any case. And yes, i know that it does look like physical damage a bigger number when look at the whatsitcalled lift of monsterbation. But that is just from nearly all monster have one. So overall there are much more physical attacks going your way than magical. But after reaching a certain PM, most of them just let your armor sparkel a bit.

hello, i want to IW my rapier. What should i get for it?

hello, i want to IW my rapier. What should i get for it?

Are you using 1h heavy set up?

hello, i want to IW my rapier. What should i get for it?

Well, that depends. When you play 1H i would say the ideal IW would look like Butcher 5, Fatality 3 and Overpower 1. At least that is what i would going for. When you play DW i would say overpower is much more important. Swift Strike is imo useless no matter what.

Are you using 1h heavy set up?

yes i am

Well, that depends. When you play 1H i would say the ideal IW would look like Butcher 5, Fatality 3 and Overpower 1. At least that is what i would going for. When you play DW i would say overpower is much more important. Swift Strike is imo useless no matter what.

i see thanks for the info

what is the best survival set/style? for example, to clear Peerless IW on PFUDOR without cure and restoratives.
shielding plate and nimble waki?

In case you're interested: With an optimal build (i.e. level 500) and optimal equipment (i.e. all peerless max forged), that should be ~96,5% physical avoidance and ~83% magical avoidance.
~98% physical and ~90,7% magical if you also decide to use evade.

This post has been edited by Nicosai: Mar 13 2019, 14:22

may i ask something about the hath perk?
i was wondering if i buy the daemon duality 1 which give you 10% damage what would happen if i buy the second level of it?will it give me 25%?

may i ask something about the hath perk?
i was wondering if i buy the daemon duality 1 which give you 10% damage what would happen if i buy the second level of it?will it give me 25%?

no, increments of 5% after the first level, the perk shows the total

What's the ideal armor set fow DW? Is it a full shadowdancer set or a mix? If it's mix, what combination would be the best?

What's the ideal armor set fow DW? Is it a full shadowdancer set or a mix? If it's mix, what combination would be the best?

Depends on purposes? For straight damage, it's full savage shadowdancer, but if you were going for pffest I think it would be excusable to use piece or two of negation for the resist chance. It's even less one-size-fits-all than 1H+heavy, since surviving pffest is so difficult for light armour users. Actually, I just wiped somewhere in the 900s in an iwbth fest... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

It's hard to get data on this cause there's pretty much zero endgame DW players, at least of those who do it as their main style. Damage is fine (can feel a little behind in some situations, but frenzied blows is undeniably excellent for single target or small groups) but surviving is not very good.

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 13 2019, 17:00

Depends on purposes? For straight damage, it's full savage shadowdancer, but if you were going for pffest I think it would be excusable to use piece or two of negation for the resist chance. It's even less one-size-fits-all than 1H+heavy, since surviving pffest is so difficult for light armour users. Actually, I just wiped somewhere in the 900s in an iwbth fest... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

It's hard to get data on this cause there's pretty much zero endgame DW players, at least of those who do it as their main style. Damage is fine (can feel a little behind in some situations, but frenzied blows is undeniably excellent for single target or small groups) but surviving is not very good.

Just how many millions do I need to bleed to get a good set of savage shadowdancer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Negation? Not fleet for maximum evade?

Just how many millions do I need to bleed to get a good set of savage shadowdancer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Negation? Not fleet for maximum evade?

Oh, dont worry. Shade is usually cheaper as power armor or mage equipment. And iirc shadowdancer and fleet have the same evade bonus.

Just how many millions do I need to bleed to get a good set of savage shadowdancer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Negation? Not fleet for maximum evade?

Less than good power armor would cost, and maybe a single digit percentage of what high tier cloth would be... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Forging it is a damn sight cheaper on the most part, too.

The problem is shadowdancer is a fairly rare drop, and savage even moreso. I've rarely ever even seen any for sale, letalone good pieces.

I really wouldn't recommend investing that heavily into DW either. Maybe if you're a hath baron or deep pocket donor, but if you're a self-sustaining player and you ever want to clear things FAST or farm pfests, plan to swap to mage or 1h/shield one day.

Also Uncle is right about fleet vs shadowdancer, afaik, and the wiki corroborates this also

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 13 2019, 18:16

Just how many millions do I need to bleed to get a good set of savage shadowdancer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Negation? Not fleet for maximum evade?

I spent 17m on my stuff but overpaid for some pieces, maybe 10~12m could be enough. However, lestion is right, they aren't that common

Oh, dont worry. Shade is usually cheaper as power armor or mage equipment. And iirc shadowdancer and fleet have the same evade bonus.

Now that you said it, indeed power and mage armors are a lot expensive, I guess that's the silver lining of playing DW. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Hoho, so I'd better off investing on shadowdancer eventhough it's pricier after all, it's just painfully hard to find good magnificent shadowdancer for my level use right now (I'm more or less have a good enough full set end game elemental shadowdancer ready).

The problem is shadowdancer is a fairly rare drop, and savage even moreso. I've rarely ever even seen any for sale, letalone good pieces.

I really wouldn't recommend investing that heavily into DW either. Maybe if you're a hath baron or deep pocket donor, but if you're a self-sustaining player and you ever want to clear things FAST or farm pfests, plan to swap to mage or 1h/shield one day.

Yeah, so far I've only found and bought 2 pieces of savage shadowdancer, but 1 with crap adb and the other with crap stats overall, gdi, I think I'd better off with my elemental shadowdancers.
Hmm, I think I'll try 1H later after I complete my DW set, but not the usual 1H, I'm interested to try 1H with shade armor set and buckler barrier, so not only I'll get block and parry, I also can evade. How feasible is that?

I spent 17m on my stuff but overpaid for some pieces, maybe 10~12m could be enough. However, lestion is right, they aren't that common

Hopefully you're right on that price range, currently have around 11m and I'm more or less already have good weapons, just need to wait good armor pieces to pop up on auction (can't really find any on WTS shops after all). Is your set full savage shadowdancer or mixed? Edit: oh you show it on your signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) didn't realize it.

This post has been edited by fuadhika: Mar 13 2019, 22:22

Now that you said it, indeed power and mage armors are a lot expensive, I guess that's the silver lining of playing DW. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Hoho, so I'd better off investing on shadowdancer eventhough it's pricier after all, it's just painfully hard to find good magnificent shadowdancer for my level use right now (I'm more or less have a good enough full set end game elemental shadowdancer ready).
Yeah, so far I've only found and bought 2 pieces of savage shadowdancer, but 1 with crap adb and the other with crap stats overall, gdi, I think I'd better off with my elemental shadowdancers.
Hmm, I think I'll try 1H later after I complete my DW set, but not the usual 1H, I'm interested to try 1H with shade armor set and buckler barrier, so not only I'll get block and parry, I also can evade. How feasible is that?

In my experience, mag shadowdancer is going to be worse than passable leg fleet/negation for most situations. You might lose up to 1k turns on DWD if your weapons are really good, but survivability is going to be more important for general purpose play anyway. You should be able to find some pretty high adb leg fleet fairly cheap and that'll make up a bit of the difference of not having the crit. Savage fleet/negation even better (but probably wouldn't spend more than 1mil on a piece).

1h with light armor? Someone might be able to clarify depending on the order this happens in, but to my understanding: that would severely hamper your damage. Can't counter-attack if you evade, and the much much lower burden will allow you to have much higher attack speed, which will also work against you...

What difficulty are you on right now, btw? I went into pf around 350, but I really really noticed a lot of slowdown after 400. That's part of why I would recommend not committing too hard to the more awkward playstyles... things are a lot less fun when they're a ton slower and taking more effort to stay alive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 13 2019, 22:50

I. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) -> 1H

lololo16 -> DW and Niten
Drksrpnt -> DW
t_t_z -> 1H
blackjac00 -> 1H
Waifu Maniac -> 1H

We are few, but we exist. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

your list seems suspiciously devoid of 2H players, just sayin (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

your list seems suspiciously devoid of 2H players, just sayin (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I forgot that "detail". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

DW is bad for PFFest. Full stop. Even with agile shadowdancer, you just get too much damage taken so you have to cure all the time. Unless you do some weird shit with FRD or something, it's just not worth it.