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Mar 11 2019, 08:11
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qr12345
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 11 2019, 00:10)  -snip-
Can you kill imperiled monster with with 1 critical T3 when no resist? There is not very much space for improvement as plain build but the gap between your lv and your equipment is big. QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Mar 11 2019, 05:49)  Say I was trying to maximize mage play for IWBTHfest. Would the proficiency required be lower because it doesn't have the PFUDOR +10% resist/parry? Just wanted to see if I could squeeze out a little more in other areas on my equips.
What's your build and stats? Main purpose for prof factor is mitigation reduction so you still need proper prof for IWB. This post has been edited by qr12345: Mar 11 2019, 08:15
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Mar 11 2019, 08:15
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Noni
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2019, 04:51)  Thanks! That solves LPR. That blows my mind that using a custom font is what makes that work.
have you tried deleting all code of monsterbation and then dropping the unzipped code file into the empty tampermonkey page? Then go to HV, see if it is working. If not, check the error log (right click -> inspect element). You should be able to what is going wrong. If nothing is wrong, and the script is active, then check the settings. Is hoveraction set to attack?
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Mar 11 2019, 08:52
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fuadhika
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 11 2019, 08:15)  have you tried deleting all code of monsterbation and then dropping the unzipped code file into the empty tampermonkey page?
Then go to HV, see if it is working. If not, check the error log (right click -> inspect element). You should be able to what is going wrong. If nothing is wrong, and the script is active, then check the settings. Is hoveraction set to attack?
That should have solved the monsterbation as well though, the default font thing. Can I survive IWTBHFest with this stats? 
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Mar 11 2019, 10:45
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Deckard Cain
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 10 2019, 20:12)  Hmm...The most recent version of the monsterbation is 1.2.4.3 so maybe try to update it? And your equipment screen attachment is tampermonky dashboard attachment lol.
QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 10 2019, 23:15)  have you tried deleting all code of monsterbation and then dropping the unzipped code file into the empty tampermonkey page?
Then go to HV, see if it is working. If not, check the error log (right click -> inspect element). You should be able to what is going wrong. If nothing is wrong, and the script is active, then check the settings. Is hoveraction set to attack?
QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 10 2019, 23:52)  That should have solved the monsterbation as well though, the default font thing.
Thanks for the responses - I did all of these things, update + redoing the code and the font and it works now I can definitely see where this will be helpful long-term even though it's taking some getting used to currently. Now to dump a few hours figuring out how to customize to my liking. : )
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Mar 11 2019, 11:46
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 11 2019, 13:52)  That should have solved the monsterbation as well though, the default font thing. Can I survive IWTBHFest with this stats?  try it on 90+ round IW, if it isn't smooth then don't bother with grindfest, if you struggle even a little on IW there's small chance you could make it on grindfest, as late round IW feels like around round 300-500 on grindfest.
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Mar 11 2019, 12:21
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fuadhika
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Mar 11 2019, 11:46)  try it on 90+ round IW, if it isn't smooth then don't bother with grindfest, if you struggle even a little on IW there's small chance you could make it on grindfest, as late round IW feels like around round 300-500 on grindfest.
I think I struggled a bit on IWTBH IW, but that was back then when I still used double shortsword, now that I've soulfused my rapier I think I might try the IW again and maybe even PF IW. Thank you for the advice.
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Mar 11 2019, 12:22
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 11 2019, 06:09)  I'll try checking the damage received next time I do GF at round 450 and post it for you then. Here's total damage taken / usages at round 450 for me: [ drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9VpCTuCdO...iew?usp=sharingThanks im at work right now, will try it as well in the evening. 31 spirit gems... pretty lucky
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Mar 11 2019, 16:11
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sickentide
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 11 2019, 07:52)  That should have solved the monsterbation as well though, the default font thing.
unless i missed something, it should fully support the default font
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Mar 11 2019, 19:32
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fuadhika
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Mar 11 2019, 16:11)  unless i missed something, it should fully support the default font
Yeah but LPR requires non default font, so might as well change it. I personally like the default font but it can't be helped.
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Mar 11 2019, 19:37
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derpface222
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In simple terms, is it actually realistic to make a credit profit of meaningful quantity (relative to funding/completing bounties) from hentaiverse without investing hundreds of hours? It seems like people who talk about profit have invested 100m+ and 200 hours in it and they get 250k profit per day.
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Mar 11 2019, 19:43
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Uncle Stu
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Well, you have to invest credits to make credits. That is unavoidable. So to answer your question, one has to know your definition of "profit of meaningful quantity".
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Mar 11 2019, 19:57
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derpface222
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 11 2019, 12:43)  Well, you have to invest credits to make credits. That is unavoidable. So to answer your question, one has to know your definition of "profit of meaningful quantity".
Well, with the investment I described it's over a year of playing every day ( after all of the grinding to get to that point) to recoup just the credits invested. For a game this is an even slower ROI than EVE Online, which is noted for its exceptional slow pace and economic focus. I'm trying to discern if I have an accurate idea of the capital and time investment for the relative income generated. This post has been edited by derpface222: Mar 11 2019, 19:57
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Mar 11 2019, 20:15
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Uncle Stu
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Well, you have to know how. If you know how it is quite easy to have a nice income. Monsterlab as an an example. A very common beginner mistake is using chaos token to upgrade their monster. But that isnt something one should do. The trick is unlocking more slots. And there are also so many possibilities to get something for free.
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Mar 11 2019, 20:16
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Deckard Cain
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QUOTE(derpface222 @ Mar 11 2019, 10:57)  Well, with the investment I described it's over a year of playing every day (after all of the grinding to get to that point) to recoup just the credits invested. For a game this is an even slower ROI than EVE Online, which is noted for its exceptional slow pace and economic focus. I'm trying to discern if I have an accurate idea of the capital and time investment for the relative income generated.
If your interest is just earning credits for other features on the website, then just slogging through a minimum wage job for a week will get you to gold star. Hell, maybe even begging on a street corner can get you to that amount if you pick the right area. And gold star is more than most people will ever need.
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Mar 11 2019, 20:18
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xesxesgnik
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For 1H/Heavy style, you can make 250k a day with 1m investment, but it takes about three hours of playing every day. With about 3m more, you can reduce that time to two hours. But this is after you reach lv300 when you can clear all of the arenas. Not sure about pffest, but I think after about 50m more investment (40m on perks and 10m on better equipment), you can make extra 250k, but that takes about 2-3 hours. For mage, 1. you have to reach at least around 350 for decent playing, 2. at least 30m for equipment and perk, you can make your daily 250k from arena in an hour, and if you invest about 100m-150m on top of that, you can make the additional 250k from pffest within an hour or so. The thing is, no matter how much money you put in, there's limit to how much you can make in this game, because of cooldowns on arenas and staminas. There are some contents w/o cooldowns, but they take shitload of staminas and to recover your stamina by 10, you need to use an item called Energy Drink, which runs at 100k market price atm. Diminish on the marginal return is very steep, so this game is more about doing the same thing faster and easier, and if you want to make 250k a day, you just need to invest about 1m, or maybe 3~5m for easier time. This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 11 2019, 20:20
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Mar 11 2019, 20:28
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 11 2019, 19:18)  Not sure about pffest,
But i am. If you are no mage, i suggest just do some IFest. A bit less income, but less crystals, but much easier done.
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Mar 11 2019, 20:30
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xesxesgnik
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Uncle, do you do Ifest since pffest's just too much time? I know you can handle pffest as breeze XD. How long does it take you to do ifest?
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Mar 11 2019, 20:33
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derpface222
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QUOTE(ravenfrost123 @ Mar 11 2019, 13:16)  If your interest is just earning credits for other features on the website, then just slogging through a minimum wage job for a week will get you to gold star. Hell, maybe even begging on a street corner can get you to that amount if you pick the right area. And gold star is more than most people will ever need.
QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 11 2019, 13:18)  Diminish on the marginal return is very steep, so this game is more about doing the same thing faster and easier, and if you want to make 250k a day, you just need to invest about 1m, or maybe 3~5m for easier time.
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 11 2019, 13:28)  But i am. If you are no mage, i suggest just do some IFest. A bit less income, but less crystals, but much easier done.
Thanks for your frank and honest information. I appreciate the time and effort taken to answer my question.
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Mar 11 2019, 20:41
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 11 2019, 19:30)  Uncle, do you do Ifest since pffest's just too much time?
Not since i got my new armor. QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 11 2019, 19:30)  I know you can handle pffest as breeze XD.
No, you dont. Because PFest isnt a walk in the park to me. PFest is dangerous and can still kill me. QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 11 2019, 19:30)  How long does it take you to do ifest?
10 to 20 minutes less than a PFEst. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(derpface222 @ Mar 11 2019, 19:33)  Thanks for your frank and honest information. I appreciate the time and effort taken to answer my question.
You are welcome. Answer questions is what this topic is all about. Do not hesitate when you have more of them. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Mar 11 2019, 20:42
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Mar 11 2019, 20:47
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t_t_z
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With maxed loot hath perks / training, my average revenue per GF appears to be over 500k (after liquidating all the loot), even with valuing mag+ equips and chaos tokens at 0c. The cost without stamina for consumables/infusions/scraps/such seems be be slightly over 22k.
Of course, it takes quite some time (~2 hours) and most likely not worth grinding it (doing it over and over again is really really tiring and hurts your wrists...), I'm morely doing it just out of interest of obsession with understanding the system and data (should probably stop since sometimes do multiple GFs in a day, being addicted to this is not really worthwhile now I think about it), probably taking a long break and burning out really soon once I hit 500.
But with maxed loot perks / training, you could I believe gain profit even if you simply purchased your used consumables / EDs from shops.
Also, did the PXP gain mechanics for IW change anywhere in the past 2 years? I noticed some old IW shops seem to run "PFUDOR x20" in the first rounds with varying pxp0 (seen 353, 359, etc) but still only getting to potency tier 2 instead of 3 (where in theory shouldn't)? Are the formulas on the wiki correct?
This post has been edited by t_t_z: Mar 11 2019, 20:54
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