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post Mar 9 2019, 20:11
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Wait, 3k turns on 1H your level? That's insanely good isn't it? Or perhaps you were meant to say 3t/s?

p.s. rummaging through blackjac00's old posts, and there was some huge bid war over this peerless savage glove about an year ago. Pretty fun lol
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post Mar 9 2019, 20:12
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 9 2019, 18:50) *

If I'm not mistaken (can not remember where the post is), he once said he was doing DwD in 26 minutes (with Rapier). His problem is t/s.

It's more or less similar to my case. My current record is 32min 30s.

The only person who said he did in 20 minutes was Waifu Manic (high t/s).


well, to be honest if I had such bad t/s like yours I would never think about playing Meele any longer.



QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 9 2019, 19:01) *

I haven't been tracking DwD turns, but for fests these days it's around 22000 turns for me with gears low to no forged (except shield which is close to max forged).

For DwD it's somewhere around between low-mid 20s to high 20 minutes I think... depending on t/s stability like everyone else lol. That's with getting around slightly 3+ ish turns on DwD?



so you are talking about 1H right? DwD turns is like 4300 for me (22+mins) 4x Slaughter 1x Balance and DD1.

I dont seem to be able to clear PFFEST though, rougly at round 450? I lose a lot of Spirit points and Im not really sure if its normal or not, since I have no one to compare it to ;P
my defenses are 78.2% physical mitigation /76.6% magical mitigation/ 66.7% block chance / 63% parry chance


QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 9 2019, 19:11) *

Wait, 3k turns on 1H your level? That's insanely good isn't it? Or perhaps you were meant to say 3t/s?

p.s. rummaging through blackjac00's old posts, and there was some huge bid war over this peerless savage glove about an year ago. Pretty fun lol


did you see his 20k Noodles and other things which was more than 100m more than trophies ? he got nothing : / or the other time with 200k trophies with only 1 Peerless

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post Mar 9 2019, 20:22
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Wait, 3k turns on 1H your level? That's insanely good isn't it? Or perhaps you were meant to say 3t/s?

Yeah my bad I meant to say t/s. Haven't been tracking DwD turns.

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I dont seem to be able to clear PFFEST though, rougly at round 450? I lose a lot of Spirit points and Im not really sure if its normal or not, since I have no one to compare it to ;P
my defenses are 78.2% physical mitigation /76.6% magical mitigation/ 66.7% block chance / 63% parry chance


Hmm I'm not quite sure... those stats are not that much worse than mine. Yeah I lose some spirit points too (mainly due to Spirit Shield) and have to use spirit consumables but it's quite negligible in face of profit and ED costs.

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post Mar 9 2019, 20:24
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Yea, learned to never follow snowflake (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
btw your numbers on dwd is so good lol, and insane t/s. I tried to go as fast as I could and still just barely over 3 t/s.
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post Mar 9 2019, 20:26
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 9 2019, 14:50) *

The only person who said he did in 20 minutes was Waifu Manic (high t/s).

That wasn't high t/s but 3200 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) 13.5k ADB and DD5
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post Mar 9 2019, 20:27
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 9 2019, 13:24) *

Yea, learned to never follow snowflake (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
btw your numbers on dwd is so good lol, and insane t/s. I tried to go as fast as I could and still just barely over 3 t/s.


Me? I get slightly over 3t/s as well, as I said the slightly 3+ turns meant to be 3+ t/s haha. I would certainly wish it would be slightly 3k+ t/s, but lol no far from that.
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post Mar 9 2019, 20:32
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It's just that game is made to have melee suffer as level up T_T... In what game do you get weaker as you level up?? It's total nonsense :/ Better do some tweak on the level scaling factor for adb or something.

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post Mar 9 2019, 20:55
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 10 2019, 03:32) *

It's just that game is made to have melee suffer as level up T_T... In what game do you get weaker as you level up?? It's total nonsense :/ Better do some tweak on the level scaling factor for adb or something.


I don't mind that, the biggest thing I want is some more content tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Like, another page of Arenas would be TOP
つ ◕_◕ ༽つ10b plsつ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Another couple of rounds of big bosses for RoB....

Honestly back before my hiatus, when there was no DwD (I think Trio was the last Arena?)
And I came back expecting some cool shit.
And to be fair, there is some cool shit. Peerless, power armors, force shields, charged/radiant phases, IW making sense (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But the one thing that was really disappointing was gearing up, hearing about this DwD BEAST of an arena.

Getting to the last round....
Finishing off 3 motherfucking dragons and....
Nothing.
Wat?
Not even like a trophy?
Even trio give out a sapling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 10 2019, 02:20
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 9 2019, 15:12) *

well, to be honest if I had such bad t/s like yours I would never think about playing Meele any longer.


It used to be much worse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I used to do DwD in 50 minutes before the 0.85 patch. After that, I instantly won 15 minutes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And also, my old internet connection was unstable, and on many occasions I played with many lags. Today I rarely have this type of problem. When it occurs, the problem must be server-side.

I think I'm well used to these times and the way I play. I can even "play" as a mage after I reach level 500 (and also after I get a GS), just to see what it looks like. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Also, I've invested a lot in my equipment to leave them after all this time and effort. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And I like to play like that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 9 2019, 15:12) *

I dont seem to be able to clear PFFEST though, rougly at round 450? I lose a lot of Spirit points and Im not really sure if its normal or not, since I have no one to compare it to ;P
my defenses are 78.2% physical mitigation /76.6% magical mitigation/ 66.7% block chance / 63% parry chance


My data is in this message in another thread: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5363313

To this day I only completed 2 PFUDORfests. One with the Protection set (Easter 2018) and the other with 4 Slaughter + 1 Balance (end of last year). It took me practically the same time for both cases (~3h10min). That's because with Slaughter the defenses are smaller and I had to heal and use restoratives more often. With that I started to play paying more attention to each movement, causing my speed to decrease. Besides, there's also the fact that the monsters get stronger as I level up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I just do not do it anymore because it's very boring and tiring. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Maybe you need to do more upgrades to improve your defenses. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

QUOTE(lololo16 @ Mar 9 2019, 15:26) *

That wasn't high t/s but 3200 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) 13.5k ADB and DD5


This I do not remember. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Just know that he had a high ADB and DD5. I need to look up this post from him.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 9 2019, 15:32) *

It's just that game is made to have melee suffer as level up T_T... In what game do you get weaker as you level up?? It's total nonsense :/ Better do some tweak on the level scaling factor for adb or something.


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post Mar 10 2019, 02:28
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 10 2019, 01:20) *

Maybe you need to do more upgrades to improve your defenses. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
For a PFest as 1H high PM and high MM does the trick. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 10 2019, 05:08
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 9 2019, 19:28) *

For a PFest as 1H high PM and high MM does the trick. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Yeah I was a bit surprised to hear you (Fap Fap) being stuck at 450 with
QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 9 2019, 13:12) *

I dont seem to be able to clear PFFEST though, rougly at round 450? I lose a lot of Spirit points and Im not really sure if its normal or not, since I have no one to compare it to ;P
my defenses are 78.2% physical mitigation /76.6% magical mitigation/ 66.7% block chance / 63% parry chance

since my defenses are for the most part even lower while higher leveled. I do start using shadow veil at around round 600 though.

You are using all buffs (Protection, Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Heartseeker, Regen) right?

Is it a matter of like actually forced to flee at 450 or so, or is it more like you feel you have to chug way too many spirit pots?

Perhaps it's a HP issue? Dunno, what are your other stats?
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post Mar 10 2019, 09:58
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 10 2019, 04:08) *

Yeah I was a bit surprised to hear you (Fap Fap) being stuck at 450 with
Well, i did it all without SoL. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 10 2019, 10:10
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 10 2019, 16:58) *

Well, i did it all without SoL. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Crazy Uncle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 10 2019, 10:18
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since my defenses are for the most part even lower while higher leveled. I do start using shadow veil at around round 600 though.

You are using all buffs (Protection, Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Heartseeker, Regen) right?

Is it a matter of like actually forced to flee at 450 or so, or is it more like you feel you have to chug way too many spirit pots?

Perhaps it's a HP issue? Dunno, what are your other stats?


try using "HV Battle stats EX" to track your items used, that can give us more details.


those are my current stats, I will try another PFFEST if I can, with the script above

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post Mar 10 2019, 10:25
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 10 2019, 09:10) *

Crazy Uncle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Hm? But i did everything without it. I never used it except that one time to see what it looks like when it is triggered. And that has been so long i allready have forgotten. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 10 2019, 10:56
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 10 2019, 03:18) *

try using "HV Battle stats EX" to track your items used, that can give us more details.


I kept my data in a spreadsheet instead, here are the most recent results: (sheet gfProfit for recent run data, itemPriceUsages for average usages/loots or such).

[drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/16AFvrkQeAm...iew?usp=sharing

My stats are as in the screenshot above, which is not much different (if not slightly inferior) to yours.

My Hath Perks: Vigorous Vitality, Resplendent Regeneration (lol), Long Gone Before Daylight, Innate Arcana IV (Protection+Spirit Shield+Spark of Life), Crystarium V, Tokenizer III, Dæmon Duality II
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post Mar 10 2019, 11:41
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Okey I used HV Battle stats until round 450... only to find out that script doesnt even work, all it can do is keep the time haha.... It says I used 1 regen 1 Heartseeker.. fail uninstall again.

QUOTE(t_t_z @ Mar 10 2019, 09:56) *

I kept my data in a spreadsheet instead, here are the most recent results: (sheet gfProfit for recent run data, itemPriceUsages for average usages/loots or such).

[drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/16AFvrkQeAm...iew?usp=sharing


all I see is numbers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What Im interested in is how many draughts / Cures you used
how much damage receives from the monsters ( I think I saw someone using such a script )
until the same round


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My stats are as in the screenshot above, which is not much different (if not slightly inferior) to yours.

My Hath Perks: Vigorous Vitality, Resplendent Regeneration (lol), Long Gone Before Daylight, Innate Arcana IV (Protection+Spirit Shield+Spark of Life), Crystarium V, Tokenizer III, Dæmon Duality II


Yeh, I have not the slighest idea why I suck so hard at GF, my stats are definetly enough to reach the late rounds.

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something else, somehow my screen is always cut off at the 10th Monster or even at this Flee movement, any idea how to fix it?

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post Mar 10 2019, 14:22
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 10 2019, 11:41) *

all I see is numbers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What Im interested in is how many draughts / Cures you used
how much damage receives from the monsters ( I think I saw someone using such a script )
until the same round

Check his link to the spreadsheet.
List "gfProfit" has that data, but for the 1000 rounds.

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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 10 2019, 11:41) *

something else, somehow my screen is always cut off at the 10th Monster or even at this Flee movement, any idea how to fix it?

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Try disabling that monster beautification addon (or all battle addons except Monsterbation) to see if it fixes the problem...
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post Mar 10 2019, 14:30
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Mar 10 2019, 13:22) *

Try disabling that monster beautification addon

iirc updating it to the latest version also helps, but i forgot what it's called or where to find it
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post Mar 10 2019, 15:13
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Mar 10 2019, 13:22) *

Check his link to the spreadsheet.
List "gfProfit" has that data, but for the 1000 rounds.

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Try disabling that monster beautification addon (or all battle addons except Monsterbation) to see if it fixes the problem...



QUOTE(sickentide @ Mar 10 2019, 13:30) *

iirc updating it to the latest version also helps, but i forgot what it's called or where to find it


do you mean Battle unfocus?
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