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Mar 6 2019, 21:50
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sickentide
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 6 2019, 20:45)  As if I could afford that lol
it's not impossible if you're patient and don't obsess over individual rolls. i didn't keep exact records, but i want to say my non-imperil dark set cost me about 5m total, not counting amnesia shards that i am yet to spend
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Mar 6 2019, 22:05
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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Hmm did you try it out on pffest? I mean it'd be awesome if it worked flawlessly on everything, but if non-imperil is on par with imperil even for price range as low as 5m, why would anybody care to play imperil mage?
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Mar 6 2019, 22:10
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 6 2019, 21:05)  Hmm did you try it out on pffest?
i just got the set going today and the hardest i've done so far is a 100 round PF IW. if my PFfest melee runs are any indication, i should be able to clear it, although quite a bit slower than a heavily forged set, but i want to finish the IWs and have my staff/cloth/dark profs catch up with my level before i attempt that
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Mar 6 2019, 22:18
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xesxesgnik
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Aha I see I see. Good luck with your new set and lmk how it turns out, I'm quite interested (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). I guess you are doing it for sake of it? I'm not inclined to think you are on a tight budget with all that stars haha. p.s. just realized you made the monsterbation. Thanks for such an awesome script! Btw, how does the Strongest function work? I'm kinda curious how Strongest([ToggleHover,Cast('Imperil')]) would work since Imperil doesn't have a cooldown. I tried something like Strongest([Cast('Regen'),Cast('Heartseeker')]) but this wouldn't allow me to cast those spells with one key :'(
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Mar 6 2019, 22:20
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qr12345
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Mar 6 2019, 20:10)  i just got the set going today and the hardest i've done so far is a 100 round PF IW. if my PFfest melee runs are any indication, i should be able to clear it, although quite a bit slower than a heavily forged set, but i want to finish the IWs and have my staff/cloth/dark profs catch up with my level before i attempt that
PFGF with the build in your signature? I would say it's quite impossible without more forge.
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Mar 6 2019, 22:27
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sickentide
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 6 2019, 21:18)  I guess you are doing it for sake of it? I'm not inclined to think you are on a tight budget with all that stars haha.
part of it is that i want to see how much can be accomplished in this game without investing an arm and a leg, and the other part is that most of my current income goes into my power set QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 6 2019, 21:18)  p.s. just realized you made the monsterbation. Thanks for such an awesome script! Btw, how does the Strongest function work? I'm kinda curious how Strongest([ToggleHover,Cast('Imperil')]) would work since Imperil doesn't have a cooldown. I tried something like Strongest([Cast('Regen'),Cast('Heartseeker')]) but this wouldn't allow me to cast those spells with one key :'(
cheers! Strongest tries to perform the actions one after another in reverse order. the reason why Strongest([ToggleHover,Cast('Imperil')]) works is that Cast('Imperil') is an incomplete action, requiring selection of a monster to finish it. Cast('Regen') and Cast('Heartseeker') are both complete actions with no cooldown, so it will only ever cast heartseeker, which is the first it attempts, unless your mana is too low to cast it
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Mar 6 2019, 22:39
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Mar 6 2019, 15:27)  part of it is that i want to see how much can be accomplished in this game without investing an arm and a leg, and the other part is that most of my current income goes into my power set
It's really cool (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Creativity comes from limits, so keep up the good work! Hope something comes out of it =) QUOTE(sickentide @ Mar 6 2019, 15:27)  cheers! Strongest tries to perform the actions one after another in reverse order. the reason why Strongest([ToggleHover,Cast('Imperil')]) works is that Cast('Imperil') is an incomplete action, requiring selection of a monster to finish it. Cast('Regen') and Cast('Heartseeker') are both complete actions with no cooldown, so it will only ever cast heartseeker, which is the first it attempts, unless your mana is too low to cast it
I'm honored to get clarification from the original developer himself (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks! So if we have hoverShiftAction(Strongest([ToggleHover,Cast('Imperil')])), then 1) first activation Cast Imperil 2) second activation Can't cast imperil since monster has to be selected, so ToggleHover activates instead. But in that case when does the selection of the target for the imperil occur? Since after the second activation hover is disabled. If it were to happen between first and second activation, then wouldn't imperil be available to be cased for second activation? This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 6 2019, 22:44
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Mar 6 2019, 23:12
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 6 2019, 21:39)  But in that case when does the selection of the target for the imperil occur?
it goes like this: 1) hover is enabled, so the Strongest function is invoked as the hover action 2) first, Strongest primes Imperil for casting on the next selected monster 3) second, Strongest disables hover for the next action 4) since hover was invoked for this action, the hovered monster is selected after the execution of Strongest, completing the cast of imperil 5) no additional hover actions are performed until reactivated, due to the hover toggle at 3)
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Mar 6 2019, 23:17
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xesxesgnik
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Aha, so an invoked hover action would be finished by selecting the monster that the mouse cursor was hovering on when it was invoked, and then the disable of hover action takes effect. Awesome! Thank you so much (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 6 2019, 23:25
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Mar 6 2019, 23:26
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 6 2019, 20:24)  Hmm so you guys do the imperil by hovering I guess?
Bind(KEY_1, Strongest([TargetMonster(1), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_2, Strongest([TargetMonster(4), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_3, Strongest([TargetMonster(7), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_4, Strongest([TargetMonster(2), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_5, Strongest([TargetMonster(5), Cast('Imperil')])); For monster #10 hoverShiftAction = Cast('Imperil'), Also you can bind different type of magic to get all kinds of prof each RE on all sets by using it once
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Mar 6 2019, 23:27
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sickentide
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 6 2019, 22:17)  What is effects supposed to mean? It seems the first three are somewhat self-explanatory, but 4 and 6 (also no 5? haha) are a bit tricky. Maybe status is when I have penetrated armor or something?
effects is where penetrated armour and such are displayed, status is the area with the hp/mp/sp bars. i suppose i should rename them to "vitals" and "status effects". there is no 5 because that is how the elements in the html are numbered
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Mar 6 2019, 23:39
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Mar 6 2019, 16:26)  Bind(KEY_1, Strongest([TargetMonster(1), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_2, Strongest([TargetMonster(4), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_3, Strongest([TargetMonster(7), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_4, Strongest([TargetMonster(2), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_5, Strongest([TargetMonster(5), Cast('Imperil')]));
For monster #10 hoverShiftAction = Cast('Imperil'),
Also you can bind different type of magic to get all kinds of prof each RE on all sets by using it once
Yea currently my numberpads 1-3 are bound to imperil,freeze, corruption, so I just press 1,2,3 and then cast regen and kill haha. Maybe I should get some holy prof as well but that's too far away (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(sickentide @ Mar 6 2019, 16:27)  effects is where penetrated armour and such are displayed, status is the area with the hp/mp/sp bars. i suppose i should rename them to "vitals" and "status effects". there is no 5 because that is how the elements in the html are numbered
I kinda figured out on my own with some experiments cuz I didn't wanna bother you so I edited it out lol. Thank you so much! XD
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Mar 7 2019, 00:34
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 7 2019, 03:43)  I feel like I can relate more to your setting, but I'm still curious about the ToggleHover part since it seems it provides some sort of safety? So is the idea imperiling every single monster? b/c sometimes when the monster resist I just say ah fuck it when I play as 1H.
Well... The amount of dmg you do with 1h VS. imperiled mobs compared to non-imperiled is significant, but not huge. As a mage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) imperil is the difference between 1-2 shot and 5-10 shot So yes, imperil every mob. Though I have tried DwD and in SG rounds I just make sure SG is imperiled, then nuke away. Though the green colored mobs HONG MEILING MY FKIN WIFE BRO can survive (un-imperiled) even while you kill 3 imperiled SGs simultaneously. somehow. This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Mar 7 2019, 00:37
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Mar 7 2019, 03:04
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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advice on iwing this gear? Magnificent Shocking Willow Staff of DestructionSo I'm doing iw on this and since it's a crap gear I don't think I'm gonna try p5s4 cuz this doesn't worth it, but want to get something that can get me through the arenas. I think it was qr12345 that recommended that I get at least p5, so I'm gonna aim for that, but is there any other secondary potency that's not as good as spellweaver but still okayish? I might go for something like p4 and 5 on secondary potency if it's good enough, but at least I think I don't want economizer lol
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Mar 7 2019, 03:31
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-vincento-
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-Shit erased- QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 7 2019, 09:04)  -Snip-
Just go P5, no economizer. The other two increase your damage. This post has been edited by -vincento-: Mar 7 2019, 04:10
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Mar 7 2019, 03:51
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sickentide
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 7 2019, 02:31)  There is an easier way to do this.
unfortunately, that counts as botting...
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Mar 7 2019, 04:07
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sickentide
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 7 2019, 03:04)  I simply learned this from the cures.
while it is all right with cures and items (similar to an offensive spell rotation, which is explicitly allowed), using that system to target monsters is a form of automatic targeting, which is explicitly forbidden This post has been edited by sickentide: Mar 7 2019, 04:09
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Mar 7 2019, 05:47
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mouisaac
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For the second potency, is holy the best option or we should aim for high holy and average for all the others?
I just IWed two jug5 with no other potency and am thinking if I should accept any potency or I should aim for holy.
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