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Is it normal that upgrades/potencies only show up in the Item Po-up and not in the standard info you just get by hovering over the item?

It is.

In regards to the wiki, it says that heavy armor should have less agi than level, would you agree with that?

If you play 1H you dont want the speed bonus from agi. But you want the PM it gives you, i would give the advice to set you agi to that point that a single additional point would give you am attack speed bonus of 0.1%.

If you play 1H you dont want the speed bonus from agi. But you want the PM it gives you, i would give the advice to set you agi to that point that a single additional point would give you am attack speed bonus of 0.1%.

Yeah basically, increase it to the point your "agility" listed under "Effective Primary Stats" is equal to your level.

Technically agility gives evade as well which is less than undesirable for most cases, but the effect is hardly noticeable, especially with higher burden. (close to 70)

If you're running into survivability issues though, more might be fine? Survivability generally isn't an issue for 1H though, unless it's doing later rounds of grindfest or item world on PFUDOR.

This post has been edited by t_t_z: Mar 5 2019, 22:58

Yeah basically, increase it to the point your "agility" listed under "Effective Primary Stats" is equal to your level.

Technically agility gives evade as well which is less than undesirable for most cases, but the effect is hardly noticeable, especially with higher burden. (close to 70)

If you're running into survivability issues though, more might be fine? Survivability generally isn't an issue for 1H though, unless it's doing later rounds of grindfest or item world on PFUDOR.

Doesn't that change with equipment that contains agi though? So if I get a better piece of heavy equip that has agi, I have to remove points from my base stat?

Again, thank you all very much for the advice so far.

Survivability generally isn't an issue for 1H though, unless it's doing later rounds of grindfest

You know that every non PFUDOR GF is not really a problem as long as you have forged your equipment at least a bit?

or item world on PFUDOR.

PFUDOR Item world is imo even easier as the last 100 rounds of a IWBTH Fest. And i did both before i did got even my first Peerl, so just forge your PM and MM and you will be fine. SV and Haste can be helpfull to do them, even when it of course reduce your overall damage output.

Btw i am talking about it as the -i guess- the only person who dont use SoL for everything, so all of this is even easier as i think it is.

So if I get a better piece of heavy equip that has agi,

Yeah, no. Something like that doesnt exist.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Mar 5 2019, 23:19

You know that every non PFUDOR GF is not really a problem as long as you have forged your equipment at least a bit?
PFUDOR Item world is imo even easier as the last 100 rounds of a IWBTH Fest. And i did both before i did got even my first Peerl, so just forge your PM and MM and you will be fine. SV and Haste can be helpfull to do them, even when it of course reduce your overall damage output.

Btw i am talking about it as the -i guess- the only person who dont use SoL for everything, so all of this is even easier as i think it is.

Yeah, no. Something like that doesnt exist.

Okay, so heavy equip has no agi bonus, but I currently have this shield: Shield and it has agi on it. (It is my current best shield I have).

Btw, I guess as 1h/heavy user I avoid the haste skill alltogether?

Okay, so heavy equip has no agi bonus, but I currently have this shield: Shield and it has agi on it. (It is my current best shield I have).

Can happen. I too did use an SDA shield once. But later on, i am sure you will prefer SDE.

Btw, I guess as 1h/heavy user I avoid the haste skill alltogether?

For haste as 1H there are only two rules.
First: When it helps you survive on a higher difficulty, use it.
Second: When you can survive without it, dont use it.

Can happen. I too did use an SDA shield once. But later on, i am sure you will prefer SDE.

I guess SDA refers to Strength Dexterity Agility and SDE to Strength Dexterity Endurance?

For haste as 1H there are only two rules.
First: When it helps you survive on a higher difficulty, use it.
Second: When you can survive without it, dont use it.

Okay thanks

This post has been edited by SeekerOfDestiny: Mar 5 2019, 23:34

I guess SDA refers to Strength Dexterity Agility and SDE to Strength Dexterity Endurance?

. Yes.

Okay thanks

You are welcome. Oh, btw, the same two rules are also true for Shadow Veil.

You are welcome. Oh, btw, the same two rules are also true for Shadow Veil.

Hm..... Okay, that makes me question getting the "improved"-abilities for shadow veil and haste though (I didn't get haste, but I did get Shadow Veil.)

With my current (non-forged) gear and no stat/dmg hath perks, hell was the best difficulty I could pull off with light/2h.

I will have to try hell with heavy/1h tomorrow, as I need to go to bed now.

Thank you again and a great day/night to you all.

You know that every non PFUDOR GF is not really a problem as long as you have forged your equipment at least a bit?
PFUDOR Item world is imo even easier as the last 100 rounds of a IWBTH Fest. And i did both before i did got even my first Peerl, so just forge your PM and MM and you will be fine. SV and Haste can be helpfull to do them, even when it of course reduce your overall damage output.

Yeah that's true, I can survive PFFEST without SV/Haste as well, but atm I'm using SV in the last ~400 rounds since when I do it seems that my consumable usage decreases quite a bit (profit/turn seems to have increased since the increase in profit due to lower cost was greater than the increase in turns due to less damage from counters / etc)

For survivability itself, I and you at higher levels and good gears of course will have no problem, but I'm not sure if that would be the case for lower levels with less strong gears. He's just switching as well, so 1H/heavy prof would be lower as well. Then again, I'm not sure on the effects of monster level scaling factor vs player survivability. From what I've seen from others, the #turns it takes / relative monster tankiness gets higher the higher level you are, no clue on your relative tankiness in comparison to levels.

Can happen. I too did use an SDA shield once. But later on, i am sure you will prefer SDE.
For haste as 1H there are only two rules.
First: When it helps you survive on a higher difficulty, use it.
Second: When you can survive without it, dont use it.

I think a moderate rule would be, "use haste according to your own need, but understand that at some point it'll hamper your damage output from counter"
as for some people merely survive isn't enough, things like ease of play, level of attention demand, or certain individual (I wonder who is it) obsession on not using spark. different need slide the point where haste goes from useful to excess and to a handicap. and I believe it's not our place to judge any fetish here.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Mar 6 2019, 08:09

as for some people merely survive isn't enough, things like ease of play, level of attention demand, or certain individual (I wonder who is it) obsession on not using spark. different need slide the point where haste goes from useful to excess and to a handicap. and I believe it's not our place to judge any fetish here.

For me, I use haste on 1h simply cause that way imperil doesn't run out after initial casts (during 3 SG DwD rounds).
If I don't have haste on, I end up having to recast imperil with SGs at ~20% HP.
And that just straight up sucks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Yeah, no. Something like that doesnt exist.

the only 1H equipment that I know have AGI are weapon and shield...
well, except if you use light armor instead of heavy... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

For me, I use haste on 1h simply cause that way imperil doesn't run out after initial casts (during 3 SG DwD rounds).
If I don't have haste on, I end up having to recast imperil with SGs at ~20% HP.
And that just straight up sucks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

for me, I just kill them without imperil if it runout at ~20%...
but I usually don't cast to all of them at the start of rounds, so it's rarely happen to me...

for me, I just kill them without imperil if it runout at ~20%...
but I usually don't cast to all of them at the start of rounds, so it's rarely happen to me...

Yeah... but it takes longer to do that.......
re-imperil is faster, but also more annoying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Easier to just keep haste on IA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

the only 1H equipment that I know have AGI are weapon and shield...
well, except if you use light armor instead of heavy... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But he was clearly speaking of heavy equipment and except there are some very old ones who actually have agi, something like that, just dont exist.

Yeah... but it takes longer to do that.......
re-imperil is faster, but also more annoying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Easier to just keep haste on IA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

well, if you compare to re-cast imperil to success and just hit it without it, at ~20% HP left I think it takes roughly the same turns...
but I only base it by my rare experience of it happen to me, so I can't be sure... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But he was clearly speaking of heavy equipment and except there are some very old ones who actually have agi, something like that, just dont exist.

I must be miss that point... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

well, if you compare to re-cast imperil to success and just hit it without it, at ~20% HP left I think it takes roughly the same turns...

Mmm... Maybe I should try a couple of runs without haste and without re-imperil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I'll wait till my 1h set is complete (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Then do aaaall sorts of tests (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

How low is chance to get jug 5 when you're already at tier 6 with jug 1 and 2 wrong potencies? Used to remember formula, but I guess I'm too senile now, can't even find it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

How low is chance to get jug 5 when you're already at tier 6 with jug 1 and 2 wrong potencies?

That you in this case actually even had the hope of still getting jugg5 is just adorable. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That you in this case actually even had the hope of still getting jugg5 is just adorable. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, somehow for jug 5 getting jug 2 first is worse than jug 1 fire 5, so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)