Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

1213 Pages V « < 444 445 446 447 448 > »   
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Ask the Experts!, Ask anything about hentaiverse. Hints for beginners

 
post Mar 1 2019, 17:16
Post #8901
Uncle Stu



The new barely sober barely sane but fully grumpy edition
**********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


Could you tell me a reason why not? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 1 2019, 17:19
Post #8902
xesxesgnik



Nyaruhodo
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14
Level 500 (Godslayer)


QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Mar 1 2019, 09:46) *

are you super sure about that?


I'm super sure he'll show up sometimes latanium today

This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 1 2019, 17:20
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 1 2019, 19:00
Post #8903
Fap.Fap



Active Poster
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,554
Joined: 19-October 11
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


does Tokenizer really not increase the chance of Token of blood to drop more ? I cannot find any info's about it
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 1 2019, 19:30
Post #8904
tox01



Regular Poster
*****
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 567
Joined: 16-April 09
Level 500 (Godslayer)


QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 1 2019, 19:00) *

does Tokenizer really not increase the chance of Token of blood to drop more ? I cannot find any info's about it

I feel like it does... I see a small increase in a number of dropped Blood tokens.

Or directly ask Tenboro...

This post has been edited by tox01: Mar 1 2019, 19:32
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 1 2019, 19:57
Post #8905
KitsuneAbby



Curse God of the Hentai Shrine
**********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 1 2019, 17:00) *

does Tokenizer really not increase the chance of Token of blood to drop more ? I cannot find any info's about it

You do get slightly more blood tokens overall. I don't now the exact value though.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 1 2019, 20:01
Post #8906
ikki.



❄ Cool as Siberia
********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,994
Joined: 11-October 16
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


maybe it's just RNG, but token3 feels like big increase for chaos tokens and very small decrease for blood tokens
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 1 2019, 23:31
Post #8907
Nezu



Rat
********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,940
Joined: 29-January 12
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


I can't see why it wouldn't - both are named tokens, they share the same untradable behaviour, the wiki suggests they're both counted as token drops for the sake of the drop flowchart (not interested in getting into an argument on whether that's an accurate model or not) - plenty of evidence suggesting they would, and not really much suggesting they wouldn't?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 14:52
Post #8908
uareader



Critter
*********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,594
Joined: 1-September 14
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 1 2019, 22:31) *

I can't see why it wouldn't - both are named tokens, they share the same untradable behaviour, the wiki suggests they're both counted as token drops for the sake of the drop flowchart (not interested in getting into an argument on whether that's an accurate model or not) - plenty of evidence suggesting they would, and not really much suggesting they wouldn't?
QUOTE
T.Type Roll 20% / 80%
(Blood / Chaos) Tokenizer hath perks (increases Chaos by up to 10%?)

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls

So the probability of getting a blood token rather than a chaos token decrease with every hath perk.
The question is whether this is compensated by the raw increase of tokens gotten in general, or if it lead into getting less blood tokens than somebody with less or no perks.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 14:56
Post #8909
Nezu



Rat
********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,940
Joined: 29-January 12
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


QUOTE(uareader @ Mar 2 2019, 12:52) *

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls

So the probability of getting a blood token rather than a chaos token decrease with every hath perk.
The question is whether this is compensated by the raw increase of tokens gotten in general, or if it lead into getting less blood tokens than somebody with less or no perks.


Not to be combative, but that ? sounds to me like it's saying it's inferred from limited data - which probably means blood tokens were even harder to model for the contributor. I guess likely there is nothing known for certain on it without 10b's explicit confirmation/denial (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 2 2019, 14:57
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 15:11
Post #8910
Uncle Stu



The new barely sober barely sane but fully grumpy edition
**********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


I didnt notice any actually difference of blood token drops that could not easy explain by RNG. I dont think that tokenizer no matter what level has actually influence on the blood token you get. Tbh i wouldnt even be suprised if chaos and blood token wouldnt be related in anyway when it comes to calculate what drops.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 17:09
Post #8911
KamuiSeph



Rehabilitated Former Cheater
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,076
Joined: 29-August 08
Level 461 (Godslayer)


The description says:
QUOTE
Doubles the chance of random mob token drops.


It's really odd that in the loot rool thingamajig the tokenizer is after token type roll.

I would think, based on the description, that it would affect the loot roll just as Archaeologist does.

Or, based on the loot drop roll schematic, that it would make sense if it dropped multiples of the token chosen. Like, regardless of hath perk the token type would be selected (so, unaffected by the perk) and then you'd simply get 2/3/4 of that chosen token.


Seems the description and the loot drop roll schematic are contradictory

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Mar 2 2019, 17:09
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 17:46
Post #8912
xesxesgnik



Nyaruhodo
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14
Level 500 (Godslayer)


I want to try out mage with some crap gears, and I need to do some forging on this cotton glove for prof. Which attributes do I have to forge beyond 5? This is just for arenas.

Legendary Cobalt Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 17:53
Post #8913
qr12345



εƒγγŸγγͺγ„γ‚ˆ
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,905
Joined: 27-April 17
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 2 2019, 15:46) *

I want to try out mage with some crap gears, and I need to do some forging on this cotton glove for prof. Which attributes do I have to forge beyond 5? This is just for arenas.

Legendary Cobalt Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist

Only Prof.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 18:03
Post #8914
xesxesgnik



Nyaruhodo
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14
Level 500 (Godslayer)


Cool thank you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm curious how far I'd go with the crap gears lol It'd be funny if it's still faster than 1H, which probably will if it can handle pf haha

EDIT: One thing I've noticed for gears in DJNoni's signature is, that magical accuracy is never forged. Is it because mage have enough to begin with?

This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 2 2019, 18:18
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 19:28
Post #8915
Nayas



( γ€‚βˆ€ ゚)
*****
Group: Members
Posts: 701
Joined: 6-February 11
Level 435 (Godslayer)


QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 2 2019, 19:03) *

EDIT: One thing I've noticed for gears in DJNoni's signature is, that magical accuracy is never forged. Is it because mage have enough to begin with?

Depends on the staff, though if you are using suffused aether for mana conservation there's most likely no way you won't reach 200% without forging.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 19:56
Post #8916
xesxesgnik



Nyaruhodo
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14
Level 500 (Godslayer)


Ah yeas the suffused aether. So it's about 3k for an hour right? For mages that can burn through arenas under an hour, I guess it saves 3k worth of mana pots?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 20:02
Post #8917
Noni



Hataraku Noni-sama
***********
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,431
Joined: 19-February 16
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 2 2019, 18:56) *

Ah yeas the suffused aether. So it's about 3k for an hour right? For mages that can burn through arenas under an hour, I guess it saves 3k worth of mana pots?


yes it's worth while. Also, without aether shard I have 224.1 % hit chance. That's with my gear without forging magic accuracy.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 21:37
Post #8918
KamuiSeph



Rehabilitated Former Cheater
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,076
Joined: 29-August 08
Level 461 (Godslayer)


QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 3 2019, 03:02) *

yes it's worth while. Also, without aether shard I have 224.1 % hit chance. That's with my gear without forging magic accuracy.

What is the hit chance affected by?

Wisdom:
QUOTE
25 points = +1% Magic Accuracy


My effective Wisdom is at:
QUOTE
786

So that's 31.44%

And my bad bad very bad super terrible un-upgraded frosty mage gear:
QUOTE
+19.53 %
+5.43 %
+6.78 %
+3.14 %
+5.62 %
+4.24 %

So that's 44,74%

At a grand total of 76.18%

But... My stats say:
QUOTE
172.7% hit chance
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 21:42
Post #8919
Uncle Stu



The new barely sober barely sane but fully grumpy edition
**********
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12
Level 500 (Ponyslayer)


QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 2 2019, 20:37) *

But... My stats say:

Well, what your stats want to tell you is that sure as sure some abilities do increase your hit chance too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

 
post Mar 2 2019, 21:47
Post #8920
xesxesgnik



Nyaruhodo
*******
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14
Level 500 (Godslayer)


You get a default magic accuracy of 80% and there's also some accuracy coming from your staff proficiency.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


1213 Pages V « < 444 445 446 447 448 > » 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 23rd July 2025 - 15:51