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No one has said anything about the riddlemaster failure count resetting. I have stated explicitly that the RE where I lost 15 stamina (the RE that I'm specifically talking about) did not have a riddlemaster. None. At all. It wasn't the last action I did in game (the last action was another RE just a few minutes ago) .. but it was the action I did previous to that - it's still pretty fresh in my memory. I can also say this, when I did this RE I was watching my stamina because at the time I didn't know how much it cost, and with my stamina being so low I wanted to find out. The stamina was reduced after the last monster was killed. I was shocked to see it so high, which is why I came to the forums to ask if that was normal.

Some questions / possibilities:
Did you have multiple instances/tabs of HV open? (stamina only updates to it's actual value when you reload / move to a new page; if you just keep one open and do battles on others, the one on the initial tab won't update until you reload / move to a new page)
Did you have any HV userscripts running? (might be a display bug)
Did you close any HV tabs / crash? (maybe the tab crashed just as it was loading a riddlemaster)
Did you happen to enter grindfest or IW but flee the first round multiple times in a row and not pay attention to the stamina after thinking it doesn't cost anything? (I did this one way back, it costs 1 stamina to enter GF upfront and all stamina for IW is payed upfront)

Of course, these are just minor possibilities I can think of. If one of them applies (kinda doubt), then we found the problem. Otherwise it could be that you forgot about something (i.e. riddlemaster) you did, or the code bugged (very unlikely though)

Anyways, the expected amount of stamina cost to enter RE is 0.

you lost 15 stamina after RE.
there is one possible version:
1. you failed to correctly answer the RiddleMaster within the time limit

but you said you didn't fail the riddle
there are two possible versions:
1. you opened the RE in the background tab, there was RiddleMaster, but you switched to the tab when the time limit has expired and did not notice
2. you're lying

you lost 15 stamina after RE.
there is one possible version:
1. you failed to correctly answer the RiddleMaster within the time limit

but you said you didn't fail the riddle
there are two possible versions:
1. you opened the RE in the background tab, there was RiddleMaster, but you switched to the tab when the time limit has expired and did not notice
2. you're lying

I'm going to go with 1 because that happened to me once lol. I spaced out for a bit and saw riddlemaster ticking to 1 and bam. But anyways, there is no other way to explain you losing 15 stamina, which is a precise value you'd lose after messing up riddlemasters seven times or more. It's either system acted up and gave you an experience which was unheard of among any of us, who have about 1000 times more playtime in this game than you do, or there actually was a riddlemaster and you spaced out and didn't recognize it. Which is more likely? idk you answer.

And put that crap aside about 'pick your poison' lmao. You are the one being rude and insulting with that aggressive stance. Experts here are doing you a service, appreciate it. They're not here to have you vent your angers and shit.

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 28 2019, 02:14

No one has said anything about the riddlemaster failure count resetting. I have stated explicitly that the RE where I lost 15 stamina (the RE that I'm specifically talking about) did not have a riddlemaster. None. At all. It wasn't the last action I did in game (the last action was another RE just a few minutes ago) .. but it was the action I did previous to that - it's still pretty fresh in my memory. I can also say this, when I did this RE I was watching my stamina because at the time I didn't know how much it cost, and with my stamina being so low I wanted to find out. The stamina was reduced after the last monster was killed. I was shocked to see it so high, which is why I came to the forums to ask if that was normal.

Since stamina is normally not displayed during battle, are you sure, what you watched was actually your stamina or rather something else?

Some questions / possibilities:
Did you have multiple instances/tabs of HV open? (stamina only updates to it's actual value when you reload / move to a new page; if you just keep one open and do battles on others, the one on the initial tab won't update until you reload / move to a new page)
Did you have any HV userscripts running? (might be a display bug)
Did you close any HV tabs / crash? (maybe the tab crashed just as it was loading a riddlemaster)
Did you happen to enter grindfest or IW but flee the first round multiple times in a row and not pay attention to the stamina after thinking it doesn't cost anything? (I did this one way back, it costs 1 stamina to enter GF upfront and all stamina for IW is payed upfront)

Of course, these are just minor possibilities I can think of. If one of them applies (kinda doubt), then we found the problem. Otherwise it could be that you forgot about something (i.e. riddlemaster) you did, or the code bugged (very unlikely though)

Anyways, the expected amount of stamina cost to enter RE is 0.

1. No. Single tab for the game. I didn't just open the game, either. I had the tab open all day.
2. Yes, a few (all of which I installed before going to bed last night). Random Encounter Detector 1/2, Monsterbation, Crank Juice, DarkNight theme.
3. Nope.
4. I didn't flee the first round today, but I did flee the 1st round of GF yesterday (oddly I didn't do what I fleed to go do - forgot what I wanted to do lol). I have never fleed an IW, that I recall.

And just to be clear because it's becoming obviously clear that quite a few people would rather call me a liar than to try and understand the situation. I have no reason to lie about this. I'm not looking for a handout or anything like that - I know about the free shops, and I've opted to not use them because I don't like handouts. I simply want to understand the game. If this is unexpected behavior, that's fine.. I'll keep my eye out for it in the future and if it happens again, I'll see what I can do to report a bug. I was actually hoping someone would say "hey, I had that happen when I [did this/used this script/etc].. it's not supposed to do that, but if you [do this instead], it won't happen.".

This post has been edited by CaptainQuasar: Feb 28 2019, 02:26

Admittedly this hasn't happened to me in half a decade, but I do remember having an issue with riddlemasters back when the maze was still a potential puzzle. I had some problems where I was unable to do the inputs and some other situations where it wouldn't display properly (so I wasn't even aware that I was 'missing' riddlemaster spots), which in turn is compounded by them showing up more frequently when you're bad at them.

Again though, this was probably back in 2013 or earlier and I'd be surprised if it was still an issue for people.

back when the maze was still a potential puzzle.

And i was allready able to forget about that completly. Stupid mace, good that those times are over.

[youtu.be] https://youtu.be/UtSfR88MFZ4?t=153

what were they thinking?

*sigh* Great. And i just did accept and forget about that you could allway see your credits without the need to go into the itemshop or the bazaar. *sigh* You could even see it during battle and it was even updated during battle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

For me, the only time something similar happened is due to having extremely bad wifi. The connection is so bad that I have not seen a single pop up yet I am getting time-outs from riddlemasters.

We can't tell exactly what happened but we can tell the most sensible thing that might have happened from experience...

Maybe for now pay a bit more attention to the battle log because when you fail a riddle it'll record how many stamina you have lost.

And just to be clear because it's becoming obviously clear that quite a few people would rather call me a liar than to try and understand the situation.

i don't call you a lier. i said that this is one of the possible situations (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

ok
you lost 15 stamina in RE
only one situation is possible - you failed the riddlemaster

so your problem is that you have somehow not seen the riddlemaster
options:
1) game page loads so long that the time limit of the riddlemaster expires before you see it
2) game page loads in background tab so you didn't notice the riddlemaster
3) bug in the game so you don't see the riddlemaster
4) bug in the browser so you don't see the riddlemaster

1) game page loads so long that the time limit of the riddlemaster expires before you see it

Not possible. I have played the game with a max speed of 33 kB/s for nearly a year the the riddlemaster loads quite quick, the only problem is the picture of the ponies, so that it is possible that you are unable to answer it, but you dont miss it.

Not possible. I have played the game with a max speed of 33 kB/s for nearly a year the the riddlemaster loads quite quick, the only problem is the picture of the ponies, so that it is possible that you are unable to answer it, but you dont miss it.

I think the speed is not the only factor, I mean if you have an unstable connection then that is possible. That is what I just described, it times out even though I didn't even see the riddle at all.

I think the speed is not the only factor, I mean if you have an unstable connection then that is possible. That is what I just described, it times out even though I didn't even see the riddle at all.

Oh, so we are talking about connection? Do you actually think modern internet is in any way stable with a MAX speed of 33kB/s? Because it is not. Do you know the error messages HV does show you when there is a connection error? I got them at least every second round aka every minute. So no, the riddle master itself loads no matter what, that was never a problem. The worst that could happen is pic not loading and if you actually get an connection error right before the riddle master would be loaded, it will load it anyway even after the the time is long expired. So not seen the riddle master at all because of this? No. Nuh-uh. Nooooope.

lol actually it'd be fun to see the error messages at 33kb/s. I can't even imagine...Was it some sort of phone modem connection?

lWas it some sort of phone modem connection?

GPRS. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Then I'm not sure what caused that. When that happens I also had like 0.02 tps but I don't recall seeing connection error. Actually, I think it's because I have no problem receiving signals (full-bar) except it doesn't actually connect me to anywhere. Whenever I tap the number key it just doesn't do anything. And after some considerable amount of time has passed, one of my inputs gets send to the server and my attack is registered.

After that experience, I'm now grateful to have good connections. For speed, atm I have max 6.6 MB/s for download which isn't decent but is usable. (is that the speed you are talking about?)

1. No. Single tab for the game. I didn't just open the game, either. I had the tab open all day.
2. Yes, a few (all of which I installed before going to bed last night). Random Encounter Detector 1/2, Monsterbation, Crank Juice, DarkNight theme.
3. Nope.
4. I didn't flee the first round today, but I did flee the 1st round of GF yesterday (oddly I didn't do what I fleed to go do - forgot what I wanted to do lol). I have never fleed an IW, that I recall.

And just to be clear because it's becoming obviously clear that quite a few people would rather call me a liar than to try and understand the situation. I have no reason to lie about this. I'm not looking for a handout or anything like that - I know about the free shops, and I've opted to not use them because I don't like handouts. I simply want to understand the game. If this is unexpected behavior, that's fine.. I'll keep my eye out for it in the future and if it happens again, I'll see what I can do to report a bug. I was actually hoping someone would say "hey, I had that happen when I [did this/used this script/etc].. it's not supposed to do that, but if you [do this instead], it won't happen.".

nobody start accusing you for being a liar until you accuse uncle stu calling you a liar.
He did stated that the only way you lose 15 stamina from doing 1 RE is if you actually failed the riddlemaster.
No matter how you wants it phrased, either in the most genteel way possible or as insulting as possible, bottom line is there's technically no other way it's possible.
People could help thinking of scenarios, but it will back to the fact that it has to be because of failing a riddlemaster, as that's the only probable explanation according to current system.
If all are exhausted and you still say it isn't, then it must be something you missed on your side.

If you're saying there's possible quirk in the system and looking for anybody who encounter the same, afaik you're the only one that reported this problem in the past months if not years (or maybe ever).
If you still insist on suspecting that it's a problem with the system, then there's no way this thread could help, at least until another people come up with the same problem as you, which so far there's nobody as you can see.
The only way possible to check it is by sending your complain to 10b, and make him look for it (he/she/it is fast if there's log, but good luck with that without actual proof).

Oh, so we are talking about connection? Do you actually think modern internet is in any way stable with a MAX speed of 33kB/s? Because it is not. Do you know the error messages HV does show you when there is a connection error? I got them at least every second round aka every minute. So no, the riddle master itself loads no matter what, that was never a problem. The worst that could happen is pic not loading and if you actually get an connection error right before the riddle master would be loaded, it will load it anyway even after the the time is long expired. So not seen the riddle master at all because of this? No. Nuh-uh. Nooooope.

remind me again, what actually should happen when somebody didn't answer the riddlemaster?
I vaguely remember that the page should refresh itself and it will load the next round.
but last time ponies didn't shows up and I tableflip then leave the pc, the page still on riddlemaster with ponies visible and 0 timer, as if taunting me.
I wonder if that's a difference because of monsterbation or because of the ajax implementation or my net failed me again when it wants to reload the page?

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Feb 28 2019, 09:05

remind me again, what actually should happen when somebody didn't answer the riddlemaster?
I vaguely remember that the page should refresh itself and it will load the next round.
but last time ponies didn't shows up and I tableflip then leave the pc, the page still on riddlemaster with ponies visible and 0 timer, as if taunting me.
I wonder if that's a difference because of monsterbation or because of the ajax implementation or my net failed me again when it wants to reload the page?

If you don't answer in the time limit it'll refresh and you can see the detail in the battle log. Not sure if it's HVutil thing but at least that's what I got.

Even if it was failure to correctly answer riddlemaster, shouldn't he fail it multiple times before he got to actually lost 15 stamina in one riddlemaster? From what i read he didn't say anything about failing the riddlemaster multiple times before the incident (though he might have but just didn't say it here).

Btw overpower is only usable for 1H play right? I assumed that's the case so I avoid that potency, but is it really the case?