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Is it normal for REs to cost 15 stam? I swear the last couple days if they cost anything at all, it couldn't have been more than 2 stam... but just now I went from 51 to 36 after only doing a RE. Stam has been weird on me all day today. At one point I was a little over 80 and all I've done is 1 arena and a few REs, that I recall specifically - there might be 1x 20 round IW and 1 Grindfest, but nothing more than that.

Is it normal for REs to cost 15 stam? I swear the last couple days if they cost anything at all, it couldn't have been more than 2 stam... but just now I went from 51 to 36 after only doing a RE. Stam has been weird on me all day today. At one point I was a little over 80 and all I've done is 1 arena and a few REs, that I recall specifically - there might be 1x 20 round IW and 1 Grindfest, but nothing more than that.

RE does not consume stamina. At all.

Grindfest: that's 20 stamina when below 80.
Arena, depends on which one, but could 3 stamin.
You lose some more because double the cost above 80: 1-2 more
Then IW: 1-2 stamina.

Most likely that you haven't paid attention to the stamina all day.

Joined: 17-February 19 Hm. My guess is that we are actually talking about an RE with a RiddleMaster after at least seven wrong answered RiddleMaster before. According to the wiki that cost 15 stamina.

Joined: 17-February 19 Hm. My guess is that we are actually talking about an RE with a RiddleMaster after at least seven wrong answered RiddleMaster before. According to the wiki that cost 15 stamina.

Ding ding ding.
I think he'd be over lvl 50 regardless of what he did, if he spammed fights till he reached <40 stamina

He actually can't go below 80 until like lv150 if he only does arena, def he messed up the riddlemaster, similar thing happened to me when I resumed playing XD.

That being said, GF and IW should be locked until 300 as a protective measure for newbies and maybe riddlemaster penalty not as severe.

RE does not consume stamina. At all.

Grindfest: that's 20 stamina when below 80.
Arena, depends on which one, but could 3 stamin.
You lose some more because double the cost above 80: 1-2 more
Then IW: 1-2 stamina.

Most likely that you haven't paid attention to the stamina all day.

I did the Arena hours before I did the RE. I hadn't done anything BUT that RE in hours. I'm talking like 6am to 2:40 all I had done is REs... and I was at like 81/82 when I did the Arena. I don't recall doing an IW or Grindfest today (I did them before going to bed last night, so they would could on "today") .. but nothing since I had > 80 - just REs.

This post has been edited by CaptainQuasar: Feb 28 2019, 00:44

He actually can't go below 80 until like lv150 if he only does arena, def he messed up the riddlemaster, similar thing happened to me when I resumed playing XD.

That being said, GF and IW should be locked until 300 as a protective measure for newbies and maybe riddlemaster penalty not as severe.

Well, for newbies they have too few arenas so GF and IW are the only places to spend those excessive stamina and to level up to unlock arenas. At least that's what I did.

I did the Arena hours before I did the RE. I hadn't done anything BUT the RE in hours.

Have you seen a captcha/riddle type thing? Where you have to guess which pony from My Little Pony is in the picture?

Something like this:
(IMG:https://ehwiki.org/images/a/a7/PONIES.png)

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 28 2019, 00:44

He actually can't go below 80 until like lv150 if he only does arena, def he messed up the riddlemaster, similar thing happened to me when I resumed playing XD.

That being said, GF and IW should be locked until 300 as a protective measure for newbies and maybe riddlemaster penalty not as severe.

I did mess up on the riddlemaster the RE before the one I'm asking about. That's actually how it got so low to start with (but how it got within range to be in the 50s due to a missed riddlemaster, I can't explain - I've only missed 1 riddlemaster today). How it went from 51 to 36 is the question. I didn't miss a riddlemaster for that because there wasn't one on that RE.

Edit: To be concise, I stopped playing when I asked the question. I just went back in and it's showing that I still have around 30 stamina. I did another RE and it didn't take any stamina. If I can't explain how I got so low to begin with, then I can't plan ahead. If what is said above is true that you can't go below 80 until 50, then I can tell you that since hitting 50 I've only done 1 arena and REs. I've had 2-3 riddlemasters and I've missed 1... and my stamina is in the 30s somehow.

This post has been edited by CaptainQuasar: Feb 28 2019, 00:59

but how it got within range to be in the 50s due to a missed riddlemaster, I can't explain

I can. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
If answered incorrectly or time runs out, players will lose Stamina depending on how many times they have failed in the last 12 riddlemasters.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/riddlemaster#Incorrect

I can. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

No. You can't.

Yes, i can. When you did one of the last three riddlemaster wrong, you did some more wrong. And failed riddlemaster is the only way one can loose quite some stamina.

Yes, i can. When you did one of the last three riddlemaster wrong, you did some more wrong. And failed riddlemaster is the only way one can loose quite some stamina.

Alright, now your insulting is painfully clear. Either you didn't read what I said above, and you're replying anyway .. which is slightly insulting, or you're calling me a liar which is extremely insulting. Pick your poison. If you decide that, for whatever reason, I decided to come to the forums to lie about some text-based game that is only a means to kill time when I'm bored (which is easily replaced with chess - online or off), then I'd kindly ask you to provide a full and complete log of all of the riddlemasters I've missed today, since you apparently know this better than I do.

Which is it going to be?

You mean this?

I've only missed 1 riddlemaster today)

Yeah, i did read it. But it doesnt matter for the stamina cost of a riddlemaster. RE itself does not use any stamina at all. And stamina doesnt disapear because of magic. So i am sure as sure of what happend. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Alright, now your insulting is painfully clear. Either you didn't read what I said above, and you're replying anyway .. which is slightly insulting, or you're calling me a liar which is extremely insulting. Pick your poison. If you decide that, for whatever reason, I decided to come to the forums to lie about some text-based game that is only a means to kill time when I'm bored (which is easily replaced with chess - online or off), then I'd kindly ask you to provide a full and complete log of all of the riddlemasters I've missed today, since you apparently know this better than I do.

Which is it going to be?

the riddlemaster failure count doesn't reset on any timed basis, it's just the results from the last 12 you did whenever they were. from the information you've given, this is literally the only way you could have lost 15 stamina in one round. only other options are that you gave incomplete information

the riddlemaster failure count doesn't reset on any timed basis, it's just the results from the last 12 you did whenever they were. from the information you've given, this is literally the only way you could have lost 15 stamina in one round. only other options are that you gave incomplete information

No one has said anything about the riddlemaster failure count resetting. I have stated explicitly that the RE where I lost 15 stamina (the RE that I'm specifically talking about) did not have a riddlemaster. None. At all. It wasn't the last action I did in game (the last action was another RE just a few minutes ago) .. but it was the action I did previous to that - it's still pretty fresh in my memory. I can also say this, when I did this RE I was watching my stamina because at the time I didn't know how much it cost, and with my stamina being so low I wanted to find out. The stamina was reduced after the last monster was killed. I was shocked to see it so high, which is why I came to the forums to ask if that was normal.

This post has been edited by CaptainQuasar: Feb 28 2019, 01:43

No one has said anything about the riddlemaster failure count resetting. I have stated explicitly that the RE where I lost 15 stamina (the RE that I'm specifically talking about) did not have a riddlemaster. None. At all. It wasn't the last action I did in game (the last action was another RE just a few minutes ago) .. but it was the action I did previous to that - it's still pretty fresh in my memory. I can also say this, when I did this RE I was watching my stamina because at the time I didn't know how much it cost, and with my stamina being so low I wanted to find out. The stamina was reduced after the last monster was killed. I was shocked to see it so high, which is why I came to the forums to ask if that was normal.

Some questions / possibilities:
Did you have multiple instances/tabs of HV open? (stamina only updates to it's actual value when you reload / move to a new page; if you just keep one open and do battles on others, the one on the initial tab won't update until you reload / move to a new page)
Did you have any HV userscripts running? (might be a display bug)
Did you close any HV tabs / crash? (maybe the tab crashed just as it was loading a riddlemaster)
Did you happen to enter grindfest or IW but flee the first round multiple times in a row and not pay attention to the stamina after thinking it doesn't cost anything? (I did this one way back, it costs 1 stamina to enter GF upfront and all stamina for IW is payed upfront)

Of course, these are just minor possibilities I can think of. If one of them applies (kinda doubt), then we found the problem. Otherwise it could be that you forgot about something (i.e. riddlemaster) you did, or the code bugged (very unlikely though)

Anyways, the expected amount of stamina cost to enter RE is 0.

you lost 15 stamina after RE.
there is one possible version:
1. you failed to correctly answer the RiddleMaster within the time limit

but you said you didn't fail the riddle
there are two possible versions:
1. you opened the RE in the background tab, there was RiddleMaster, but you switched to the tab when the time limit has expired and did not notice
2. you're lying

you lost 15 stamina after RE.
there is one possible version:
1. you failed to correctly answer the RiddleMaster within the time limit

but you said you didn't fail the riddle
there are two possible versions:
1. you opened the RE in the background tab, there was RiddleMaster, but you switched to the tab when the time limit has expired and did not notice
2. you're lying

I'm going to go with 1 because that happened to me once lol. I spaced out for a bit and saw riddlemaster ticking to 1 and bam. But anyways, there is no other way to explain you losing 15 stamina, which is a precise value you'd lose after messing up riddlemasters seven times or more. It's either system acted up and gave you an experience which was unheard of among any of us, who have about 1000 times more playtime in this game than you do, or there actually was a riddlemaster and you spaced out and didn't recognize it. Which is more likely? idk you answer.

And put that crap aside about 'pick your poison' lmao. You are the one being rude and insulting with that aggressive stance. Experts here are doing you a service, appreciate it. They're not here to have you vent your angers and shit.

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 28 2019, 02:14

No one has said anything about the riddlemaster failure count resetting. I have stated explicitly that the RE where I lost 15 stamina (the RE that I'm specifically talking about) did not have a riddlemaster. None. At all. It wasn't the last action I did in game (the last action was another RE just a few minutes ago) .. but it was the action I did previous to that - it's still pretty fresh in my memory. I can also say this, when I did this RE I was watching my stamina because at the time I didn't know how much it cost, and with my stamina being so low I wanted to find out. The stamina was reduced after the last monster was killed. I was shocked to see it so high, which is why I came to the forums to ask if that was normal.

Since stamina is normally not displayed during battle, are you sure, what you watched was actually your stamina or rather something else?