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Is there a requirement for replenishment of the soul fragment cap? I haven't been playing for like four years but I don't think that gave me any additional cap on soul fragments...

Is there a requirement for replenishment of the soul fragment cap? I haven't been playing for like four years but I don't think that gave me any additional cap on soul fragments...

no,
but, theoretically speaking, if you didn't do any RE yesterday, then do 1 RE exactly every 1 hour today, you could get 23 drops (115 fragments). But that way, if you do RE every 30 minutes tomorrow you would only able to get 6(7?) drops (30 fragments) as you'll start with 0 counter and got a counter regen every 2 hours

bottom line is if you consistently do RE daily, it'll average out to ~60 fragments/days in the end.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Feb 27 2019, 17:06

Noni, if you're around can I get a clarification?

Pfudor arena's, non-imperil play?
staff: 20m +25m forging
Prof cotton (2 pieces), non charged, full forged: 50m
3 phases, plain prefix, no forging: 15

Pfudor IW/Grindfest, non-imperil play?
Staff:20m + 25m forging
prof cotton (2 pieces), charged, full forged: 100m
3 phases, radiant: 100m
Forging of the radiants (not even full): 50m

Imperil style is cheaper, but then elemental is much better/cheaper/value-for-money

That's for holy mage setup right?
Is there a difference if I try and swap over to dark, rather than holy? (cost-wise)

Also, I was wondering how much should I expect to pay for the equip (roughly speaking) unforged?
The forge costs fluctuate with binding and material costs, so I'd be less worried about the costs of forging, since I'd end up slowly upgrading it over time anyways.
But the raw amount for just the base equip is what I'm interested in.
(You did mention staff @ 20m unforged, I appreciate that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

That's for holy mage setup right?

Because the whole post was an answer to

What is the cost standard of a holy mage build that is usable on PFUDOR?

I am sure as sure we can assume even without even reading the post itself, that it is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

no,
but, theoretically speaking, if you didn't do any RE yesterday, then do 1 RE exactly every 1 hour today, you could get 23 drops (115 fragments). But that way, if you do RE every 30 minutes tomorrow you would only able to get 6(7?) drops (30 fragments) as you'll start with 0 counter and got a counter regen every 2 hours

bottom line is if you consistently do RE daily, it'll average out to ~60 fragments/days in the end.

I wonder how long is the sliding window tho. For instance, if you don't play RE for a week then you get 120 for a week? For me I haven't been playing HV for four years but I only get 60 rn so there should be a limit I think hmm.

i thought the daily cap is 60 and even if the perk does increase your cap by 10, wouldn't you get 70 at most? How did you do that? Maybe doing all your REs in second half of the day helps?

Basically that's what Fudo said:

The soul fragment cap is sliding window, not a hard daily cap.

in the long run it would even out to 60/day

By my notes, I have already won between 30 and 90 fragments per day, but in the long run the average is close to 60. I always count between one Dawn and another. And I do not have hath perk for fragments.

With that, in almost 3 years (since when the current rule of 60 fragments per day began) I have already used 37,920 fragments and I still currently have 26,625. And I never had to buy it in the bazaar. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

About your problem with the lack of fragments the main issue is that you have been left a long time without playing, and now you are climbing up very fast level. When leveling up too fast your equipment without soulfuse quickly becomes outdated. In this case you would have to change the equipment to others with a level closer to yours, or if you have a good equipment that can be used for a long time, make the soulfuse of it (one equipment at a time, of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ).

The advantage of leveling faster is that you can soon make soulfuse on any equipment, and you will need less and less soul fragments.

Basically the main question is that you have to be patient about it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by Basara Nekki: Feb 27 2019, 17:46

Noni, if you're around can I get a clarification?
That's for holy mage setup right?
Is there a difference if I try and swap over to dark, rather than holy? (cost-wise)

Also, I was wondering how much should I expect to pay for the equip (roughly speaking) unforged?
The forge costs fluctuate with binding and material costs, so I'd be less worried about the costs of forging, since I'd end up slowly upgrading it over time anyways.
But the raw amount for just the base equip is what I'm interested in.
(You did mention staff @ 20m unforged, I appreciate that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

that's holy yes. And only my educated guess, not facts.
Dark is cheaper but considerably less awesome. Dark is especially much cheaper if you play imperil style. That is less awesome than elec or wimd imperil style, but slightly more awesome than cold imperil style. Or fire, but I don't want to burn my fingers on fire.

Dark non-imperil is still less awesome than holy, and also ridiculously expensive to get right.

Base equipment: depends on what you want to achieve. It's fine to use, salvage and replace repeatedly. You are not expecting to buy your end game equipment when you start, do you? If so, you might want to rethink that strategy. Salvage will bring salvation.

I chose Cold as start. Then at lv 500 turned to the dark side. I recommend wind or elec, but that would count as 'do as I say not as I do'
Find a good staff. Spend some credit on that. And start from there. A nice staff is 5-10m but save some more and go for more 'yeah!' level of staffness which would require 15-25m.

Good luck!

Some numerical standards on staffness would be quite appreciated (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) For instance, certain cutoffs for MDB and EDB, and something like MDB80 EDB20 vs MDB 60 EDB 60?

that's holy yes. And only my educated guess, not facts.
Dark is cheaper but considerably less awesome. Dark is especially much cheaper if you play imperil style. That is less awesome than elec or wimd imperil style, but slightly more awesome than cold imperil style. Or fire, but I don't want to burn my fingers on fire.

Dark non-imperil is still less awesome than holy, and also ridiculously expensive to get right.

Base equipment: depends on what you want to achieve. It's fine to use, salvage and replace repeatedly. You are not expecting to buy your end game equipment when you start, do you? If so, you might want to rethink that strategy. Salvage will bring salvation.

I chose Cold as start. Then at lv 500 turned to the dark side. I recommend wind or elec, but that would count as 'do as I say not as I do'
Find a good staff. Spend some credit on that. And start from there. A nice staff is 5-10m but save some more and go for more 'yeah!' level of staffness which would require 15-25m.

Good luck!

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When you say "awesome", does that mean "does less dmg"? or just "awesome" in the sense of "cool".
Cause personally I don't mind either holy or dark, so long as it's just as effective.

And I would like to buy late-game-ish stuff first.
I have like really really MEH cold mage set up right now.
I can go IWBTH relatively decently (just for grinding out some proficiency) but PFUDOR is just madness non-stop healing.
Also none of it is upgraded...
I also just got a butt-load of credits from filing out a bounty so...
Was thinking why not just blow my load straight for expensive-ass gear and then upgrade that shit slowly from daily profits/hath/drops/monster lab drops/etc.

Cause I have a pretty decent 1h/heavy setup atm and I'm not struggling to clear stuff.
So I'm in no rush to get low grade mage gear, to upgrade to mid gear, then go for late game gear....


Does that make sense?

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When you say "awesome", does that mean "does less dmg"? or just "awesome" in the sense of "cool".

Dude, when a dude says awesome the dude means awesome. That's not the same as cool. Cold mage is kinda cool. Quite cool. But not awesome.

Dude, when a dude says awesome the dude means awesome. That's not the same as cool. Cold mage is kinda cool. Quite cool. But not awesome.

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Imma check myself out, bye guys

Some numerical standards on staffness would be quite appreciated (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) For instance, certain cutoffs for MDB and EDB, and something like MDB80 EDB20 vs MDB 60 EDB 60?

I think a willow staff of destruction with 70%+MDB and 20%+EDB is already very good.
You have to make compromise at a point because toppest things are really rare.

Cause I have a pretty decent 1h/heavy setup atm and I'm not struggling to clear stuff.
So I'm in no rush to get low grade mage gear, to upgrade to mid gear, then go for late game gear....
Does that make sense?

You can do whatever you want and yes your method will end up with lowest cost.
However I will still recommend players start maging as soon as possible after lv310.
It's just faaaaaast.

This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 27 2019, 18:49

However I will still recommend players start maging as soon as possible after lv310.
It's just faaaaaast.

Yeah, I do remember the old days of maging...
Before power armor and force shields and imperil and prefixes and stuff.

Flying through rounds with a single AoE spell was awesome (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But it's one of those things where I don't feel like I'm that slow atm (mainly cause of monsterbation) and I'd rather wait longer and get stuff for less monies overall, as opposed to diving straight to cheap mage for minor benefits.

It's like using a 720p monitor and holding out for cheaper 4k monitors instead of going for 1080p.
You know 1080p is better quality than your crappy monitor, but you can watch stuff at 720p without any problems.
It's only once you switch to 1080p does it become impossible to go back to shitty standard definition.
At that point, might as well hold out a little longer and get a decent 4k monitor.

There was a time without imperil? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

There was a time without imperil? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I think so.
At least, maging without Imperil.
I don't remember ever using Imperil back when I was holy maging.
Either it wasn't around yet, or it was like above lvl 250-300 or smth.

But yeah, holy/dark mage with no imperil was back then, what 1h/power armor is now.

Edit:
It was pre 2012 Uncle
Back when hath was at like 16k a pop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 27 2019, 20:48

It was pre 2012 Uncle

Fixed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Back when hath was at like 16k a pop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Ah, yeah. The good old days when i didnt even dream of been able to get a hath perk that wasnt Postage Paid and the only hath i ever did own were those few from artifacts, only that those back in those times also could spit out other elixir like Mana Elixir. And when we still had this aura system and Grindfest and Crystalworld were two differen things. Good times, good times. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 27 2019, 20:57

Fixed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Ah, yeah. The good old days when i didnt even dream of been able to get a hath perk that wasnt Postage Paid and the only hath i ever did own were those few from artifacts, only that those back in those times also could spit out other elixir like Mana Elixir. And when we still had this aura system and Grindfest and Crystalworld were two differen things. Good times, good times. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oooh Uncle, that's even pre hath perks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Black/White and Rainbow auras (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And I remember when crystals/monster lab wasn't even a thing

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 27 2019, 21:14

Yeah, but that was all pre uncle. So it is in no way important. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Yeah, but that was all pre uncle. So it is in no way important. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

But... But... PRE-STAMINA DAYS!

So? I prefer waiting for the Post-SoL days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)