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post Feb 27 2019, 05:54
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 27 2019, 07:20) *

I hope mag soulfusing was cheaper tho :/ I'm trying to stop my spending on 1H at mag power slaughter and it takes too many fragments >.>


at some point you wouldn't know what to do with your fragments
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and I consider myself a liberal in soulfusing equipment.

as far as I remember, the design was meant for 1 soulfuse per week, so if you use that as a plan you should have no problem.
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post Feb 27 2019, 06:01
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haha that's a lot of soul fragments. Yea and for that exact reason I'm reluctant to buy any from the shop. I wish they were tradeable, it would've been much better :/

I'd say it's more like 1 soulfuse every other week tho. Two weeks and you end up with 840 at most, and since most of the time you'd soulfuse something that's higher than your level. Even if it was lower a week still wouldn't cut it since it's only 60 a day for a total of 420 a week. Why not they make the cap 120 instead and have soul fragment drop every RE or drop 10 for a chance? idk i feel like it's needless throttling
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post Feb 27 2019, 06:01
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I feel a bit without directions in here, been saving credits, but don't know what should I invest next
should i save up for equipment or buy HGC to fully upgrade my current pieces?
the hath perks that i lack would be EE, Cybernetic Implants, Cryst 5, IA5, and Daemon 6 onwards (but those are too expensive, might never get them)

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post Feb 27 2019, 07:18
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Feb 27 2019, 05:01) *
should i save up for equipment or buy HGC to fully upgrade my current pieces?
Well, would fully upgrade your equipment make a difference? If yes i would go for that.
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post Feb 27 2019, 07:55
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QUOTE(jantch @ Feb 27 2019, 02:10) *

It's not really 10 additional if you play enough REs. It's 10 without any REs, but the daily cap is still 60.

My current daily all-time highest is 90 fragments. Last 2 weeks daily gain is 65-85 fragments.
I have a perk.
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post Feb 27 2019, 08:32
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Feb 27 2019, 12:01) *

I feel a bit without directions in here, been saving credits, but don't know what should I invest next
should i save up for equipment or buy HGC to fully upgrade my current pieces?
the hath perks that i lack would be EE, Cybernetic Implants, Cryst 5, IA5, and Daemon 6 onwards (but those are too expensive, might never get them)

Buy a good LHOH with both EDB and MDB rolls over 50%. Market price will be >=15m. That should add 5~8% damage output. Then upgrade your phases to 25~30. Over 30 it's little gain and a lot of HGC.
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post Feb 27 2019, 09:05
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QUOTE(jantch @ Feb 26 2019, 23:05) *

Thanks, but I don't see an increase in granularity. It looks like the morale drop that I had multiplied by 200, so instead of increments of 1 I have increments of 200.

You have got the right amounts in there. That script is used to optimize one's usage of pills and crystals.
If you want to measure the morale drain accurately, then I suggest you'd fill them all to the brim and then stop doing it until one of them is near-empty.
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post Feb 27 2019, 13:38
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QUOTE(tox01 @ Feb 27 2019, 00:55) *

My current daily all-time highest is 90 fragments. Last 2 weeks daily gain is 65-85 fragments.
I have a perk.


i thought the daily cap is 60 and even if the perk does increase your cap by 10, wouldn't you get 70 at most? How did you do that? Maybe doing all your REs in second half of the day helps?
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post Feb 27 2019, 13:44
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 27 2019, 12:38) *

even if the perk does increase your cap
Afaik it does not.
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post Feb 27 2019, 13:45
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 27 2019, 06:44) *

Afaik it does not.


That's what I thought from what jantch said. How did tox01 pull off 90 O_o?
I've been tracking my soul fragments drops for the last few days but they always reached 60 cap with one of the last REs, so it sounds quite interesting that he'd get over 60 consistently.
But yea the main problem is the PAB. I would rather prefer SD compared to SDA.

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post Feb 27 2019, 13:47
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Beats me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I couldnt even tell you what the cap actually is, but i have read too many people complaining about that the perk doesnt affect the cap to know at least that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 27 2019, 14:02
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 27 2019, 13:45) *

That's what I thought from what jantch said. How did tox01 pull off 90 O_o?
I've been tracking my soul fragments drops for the last few days but they always reached 60 cap with one of the last REs, so it sounds quite interesting that he'd get over 60 consistently.

I don't know... random? Sometimes I get only 45 (current lowest).
I usually complete all REs a few hours (~6) before reset. After that I write down the number. New Dawn doesn't affect that number.
Don't know when +10 kicks in. Didn't bother to try to track it.
Last 30 days' average is 70.17 fragments.
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post Feb 27 2019, 14:07
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 27 2019, 06:45) *

But yea the main problem is the PAB. I would rather prefer SD compared to SDA.


Well... you can always reduce your agility stat distribution until you get to your desired level; if you don't mind the wait (and possibly slightly more wait to re-put more agility back in if you swap gears), it's better since you can distribute more exp in other stuff. Your desired agility isn't zero, right?
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post Feb 27 2019, 14:51
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Yea it was more of a rhetoric to express how much I don't like sda, but ofc sda's better than sd. But ti's actually quite tricky as well since you don't want effective agility to go over your level but something close due to the physical mitigation it gives, and if force shield kicks in out of nowhere it makes things pretty tricky, since it provides at least 50ish agility
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post Feb 27 2019, 15:11
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The soul fragment cap is sliding window, not a hard daily cap.

in the long run it would even out to 60/day
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post Feb 27 2019, 15:54
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Is there a requirement for replenishment of the soul fragment cap? I haven't been playing for like four years but I don't think that gave me any additional cap on soul fragments...
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post Feb 27 2019, 17:06
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 27 2019, 20:54) *

Is there a requirement for replenishment of the soul fragment cap? I haven't been playing for like four years but I don't think that gave me any additional cap on soul fragments...


no,
but, theoretically speaking, if you didn't do any RE yesterday, then do 1 RE exactly every 1 hour today, you could get 23 drops (115 fragments). But that way, if you do RE every 30 minutes tomorrow you would only able to get 6(7?) drops (30 fragments) as you'll start with 0 counter and got a counter regen every 2 hours

bottom line is if you consistently do RE daily, it'll average out to ~60 fragments/days in the end.

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post Feb 27 2019, 17:11
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Noni, if you're around can I get a clarification?

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Pfudor arena's, non-imperil play?
staff: 20m +25m forging
Prof cotton (2 pieces), non charged, full forged: 50m
3 phases, plain prefix, no forging: 15

Pfudor IW/Grindfest, non-imperil play?
Staff:20m + 25m forging
prof cotton (2 pieces), charged, full forged: 100m
3 phases, radiant: 100m
Forging of the radiants (not even full): 50m

Imperil style is cheaper, but then elemental is much better/cheaper/value-for-money


That's for holy mage setup right?
Is there a difference if I try and swap over to dark, rather than holy? (cost-wise)

Also, I was wondering how much should I expect to pay for the equip (roughly speaking) unforged?
The forge costs fluctuate with binding and material costs, so I'd be less worried about the costs of forging, since I'd end up slowly upgrading it over time anyways.
But the raw amount for just the base equip is what I'm interested in.
(You did mention staff @ 20m unforged, I appreciate that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )
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post Feb 27 2019, 17:22
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 27 2019, 16:11) *

That's for holy mage setup right?


Because the whole post was an answer to
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What is the cost standard of a holy mage build that is usable on PFUDOR?
I am sure as sure we can assume even without even reading the post itself, that it is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 27 2019, 17:33
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 27 2019, 10:06) *

no,
but, theoretically speaking, if you didn't do any RE yesterday, then do 1 RE exactly every 1 hour today, you could get 23 drops (115 fragments). But that way, if you do RE every 30 minutes tomorrow you would only able to get 6(7?) drops (30 fragments) as you'll start with 0 counter and got a counter regen every 2 hours

bottom line is if you consistently do RE daily, it'll average out to ~60 fragments/days in the end.


I wonder how long is the sliding window tho. For instance, if you don't play RE for a week then you get 120 for a week? For me I haven't been playing HV for four years but I only get 60 rn so there should be a limit I think hmm.
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