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post Feb 26 2019, 09:39
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 26 2019, 01:29) *

But I thought doing hell you are wasting 2 stamina getting half potency exp and a lot less credit/drops and 2 stamina costs near the same as an extra shard and more after 10 reforges...

Ok seem like I should do hell and reforge until a jug appears.

Going off this comment, what are the chances that after you get jug/cap 1 and 2 in the next running something you don’t want shows up?


edit: i soulfused my equipment; is dark descent perk worth it?

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post Feb 26 2019, 09:48
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QUOTE(Insania @ Feb 26 2019, 08:39) *

Going off this comment, what are the chances that after you get jug/cap 1 and 2 in the next running something you don’t want shows up?
First i want to say that cap isnt that great. For 1H it is actually completly useless, even worse than windproof. But if you actually want Jug and Cap the chances are iirc higher to get another Jug and or Cap than getting anythingelse. And no, i have no idea about percentages.

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edit: i soulfused my equipment; is dark descent perk worth it?
Ehm, not sure about the context to soulfusing your equipment, but yes, if you have the hath it is imo worth it. Sure, you just could sent it to someone who allready has Dark Descent himself, but that takes time. Just been able to do it yourself is quicker. But if you dont care about it been quicker and you dont mind sent your equipment to another player -oh, now i get it, you cant this for this one- dark descent is not really a must have. Imo it is more like a nice to have.
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post Feb 26 2019, 09:56
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QUOTE(Insania @ Feb 26 2019, 07:39) *

Going off this comment, what are the chances that after you get jug/cap 1 and 2 in the next running something you don’t want shows up?
edit: i soulfused my equipment; is dark descent perk worth it?

I don't exactly get your question.
Suppose you want to end up with 2 potencies only at potency tier10 and you already get 2 potencies, both lv1 at tier2.
The probability for 2 potency only at tier 10 is (0.75^7)=~13.3% for weapons and (0.75^8)=~10% for armors.
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post Feb 26 2019, 09:57
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QUOTE(Insania @ Feb 26 2019, 02:39) *

i soulfused my equipment; is dark descent perk worth it?

you shouldn't soulfuse your equipment before IWing it, IW services exist, they don't charge much if you want something simple and there are reforge services shops for free
dark descent is only for shop owners or people that really want specific potencies
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post Feb 26 2019, 10:15
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 26 2019, 04:48) *

Ehm, not sure about the context to soulfusing your equipment, but yes, if you have the hath it is imo worth it. Sure, you just could sent it to someone who allready has Dark Descent himself, but that takes time. Just been able to do it yourself is quicker. But if you dont care about it been quicker and you dont mind sent your equipment to another player -oh, now i get it, you cant this for this one- dark descent is not really a must have. Imo it is more like a nice to have.


i added the context about soulfused equipment because you cant trade them.

QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 26 2019, 04:56) *

I don't exactly get your question.
Suppose you want to end up with 2 potencies only at potency tier10 and you already get 2 potencies, both lv1 at tier2.
The probability for 2 potency only at tier 10 is (0.75^7)=~13.3% for weapons and (0.75^8)=~10% for armors.

it should be .75^8 for both weapon and armour, right? so it would be ideal to get jug and cap on the first run; i am reading the wiki right now.

edit: sorry, hard to fix on a tablet. i will do it later.

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post Feb 26 2019, 10:41
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QUOTE(Insania @ Feb 26 2019, 09:15) *

i added the context about soulfused equipment because, you cant trade them.

I know that is what this is about (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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-oh, now i get it, you cant this for this one-
Okay it lacks a do, but hey today is the most bullshit day of the whole year, i am allready happy when my PC doesnt explode in my face. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Feb 26 2019, 10:57
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 26 2019, 10:56) *

Yeah, no. The pay back of those last levels of training is not great i admit. But you would not need 20 years for them to pay back, at least not when you play more than a daily RE. We are talking about training and not the repair bear perks.

Hello Uncle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I know i dont need 20 years for them to pay back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
It means if I don't know how long it will take me to pay off,must take into account that it may take a long time.
If there is not enough data, I will still assume 20 years.
Consider the worst case. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Feb 26 2019, 11:02
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Hey kikikaki (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I would assume around half a year for them to pay off. Longer of you play less than average, shorter if you play more.
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post Feb 26 2019, 12:56
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Training Drop Chance will cost 80m.
If I earn 350K a day.
This is my 228 days of income. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Suppose the half-year earnings back sounds too optimistic.
But I won't say it is wrong.
Because we don't have data in this area.
I really hope that we have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Feb 26 2019, 14:41
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 26 2019, 10:41) *

Okay it lacks a do, but hey today is the most bullshit day of the whole year, i am allready happy when my PC doesnt explode in my face. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


The year has just begone ... there's a lot of time still to see more bullshit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But no, I shouldn't pull the leg of poor Uncle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I suffer with you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Feb 26 2019, 16:50
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No yiu diudnt thus day suckks. And its sucks onlmy for mr.
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post Feb 26 2019, 19:52
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Hello there dear experts,

I've got a question about Hath Perks.

I am currently a Bronze Star as you can see on the left and recently unlocked "Innate Arcana I" as well as "Postage Paid".

Build-wise I am following the advice section of the wiki with a 2H and Light Armour Melee build, using Regen, Protection, Shadow Veil, Heartseeker and Haste on cooldown manually with Spark of Life in my IA I Slot.

I just discovered the "Hentaiverse Monsterbation" script and am loving the speed of hover battle and now I am wondering if investing in more Innate Arcana is a worthwhile investment or if there is something else I should put more priority on. (I do not intend to go mage at end game, in case this is important.)

Edit: Forgot to add the most important stuff:

Current Hath: 0
Current Credits: 872k

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post Feb 26 2019, 20:16
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QUOTE(SeekerOfDestiny @ Feb 26 2019, 12:52) *

Hello there dear experts,

I've got a question about Hath Perks.

I am currently a Bronze Star as you can see on the left and recently unlocked "Innate Arcana I" as well as "Postage Paid".

Build-wise I am following the advice section of the wiki with a 2H and Light Armour Melee build, using Regen, Protection, Shadow Veil, Heartseeker and Haste on cooldown manually with Spark of Life in my IA I Slot.

I just discovered the "Hentaiverse Monsterbation" script and am loving the speed of hover battle and now I am wondering if investing in more Innate Arcana is a worthwhile investment or if there is something else I should put more priority on. (I do not intend to go mage at end game, in case this is important.)

Edit: Forgot to add the most important stuff:

Current Hath: 0
Current Credits: 872k


I think IA II and III are the most valuable ones for now and they are among the cheapest perks as well. And also maybe Vigorous Vitality, same price as IA III.
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post Feb 26 2019, 20:19
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QUOTE(SeekerOfDestiny @ Feb 26 2019, 14:52) *


I just discovered the "Hentaiverse Monsterbation" script and am loving the speed of hover battle and now I am wondering if investing in more Innate Arcana is a worthwhile investment or if there is something else I should put more priority on. (I do not intend to go mage at end game, in case this is important.)

Try to get Vigorous vitality and IA 3 for the time being (in fact, even IA5 is useful for 2h), they will help you a lot
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post Feb 26 2019, 20:25
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 26 2019, 19:16) *

I think IA II and III are the most valuable ones for now and they are among the cheapest perks as well. And also maybe Vigorous Vitality, same price as IA III.



QUOTE(lololo16 @ Feb 26 2019, 19:19) *

Try to get Vigorous vitality and IA 3 for the time being (in fact, even IA5 is useful for 2h), they will help you a lot


Thank you both very much, I will follow that advice :D
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post Feb 26 2019, 20:32
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Feb 26 2019, 19:19) *

Try to get Vigorous vitality and IA 3 for the time being (in fact, even IA5 is useful for 2h), they will help you a lot



dont go for IA 4+5 until you have your equipment ready and everything you really need, as long as you have Spirit Shield / protection / Spark of Life in IA slotted, its all fine
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post Feb 26 2019, 23:22
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A follow-up to this post -

To test the effect of monster level on morale drain rate, I fed some monsters enough crystals to get their levels to 40, 250, 450, and 650 with full morale. 250 was assumed to be the start point for increasing morale drain, 650 was assumed to be the 2x point, 450 was a halfway point to check if the drain was linear, and 40 was a check to see that the drain rate didn't start changing below 250.

It looks like the drain rate doesn't start changing below 250, but it probably starts a little higher, and the 2x point is below 650.

I'm basing morale on the length of the morale bar, so there's probably a way to get more detailed info, but I'm not familiar with it.

At last check, morale was 105 (down 15) for the level 40 and 250 monsters, 111 (down 9) for the level 450 monster, and 114 (down 6) for the level 650 monster.
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post Feb 26 2019, 23:57
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QUOTE(jantch @ Feb 26 2019, 21:22) *

-snip-

This is what you want:
HV Monster Lab Numbers
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post Feb 27 2019, 01:05
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 26 2019, 16:57) *

This is what you want:
HV Monster Lab Numbers

Thanks, but I don't see an increase in granularity. It looks like the morale drop that I had multiplied by 200, so instead of increments of 1 I have increments of 200.
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post Feb 27 2019, 01:59
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Ugh, I would love to buy a soul fragment perk. Not that crap perk that gives you lousy 10 additional fragments per day tho. The cap is just horrendously low...
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