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Feb 24 2019, 10:35
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(VawX @ Feb 24 2019, 05:58)  I mean Crys III already pretty nice, and I have too many crystals now, too lazy to sell them mmm... There is no such a thing has having too many crystals. @Kamuiseph: Decently doable with a 1H weapon that has parry forged to the max, a shield forge 15/20, armor with forge 5-10. At least that's how it goes with my Peerless setup. You'll probably need more forging on the Block, more armor forging, especially if you are full Slaughter power armor. @Saioux: 350k profit is a lie. A PFFEST nets around 45k credits, roughly as much when it comes to bazaared equipment (excluding potential HGC), 6 crystals packs (@21k each), and then PAs are pretty variable (I'll count barely enough PA to compensate for the consumption of an ED), the rest (shards, gums, scrolls infusions and such) is very random. Overall we're far under 350k. Maybe 200k-250k at most. That is, you get this with all trainings maxed out.
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Feb 24 2019, 10:38
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 24 2019, 09:20)  Speaking of PFFEST. Is it doable with a decent 1h setup (good forged rapier, max mag/low leg slaughter armor with minimal forging)? Or does it take like 12 hours or smth?
PFest done with 1H and without SoL, Haste or SV.  Does this answer your question?
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Feb 24 2019, 10:52
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 29-August 08

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 24 2019, 17:38) 
Does this answer your question?
What was your equip like, if you don't mind my asking? All slaughter armor? Max forged/min forged?
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Feb 24 2019, 10:54
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 24 2019, 09:52)  What was your equip like, if you don't mind my asking? All slaughter armor? Max forged/min forged?
None Slaughter. Two Warding, Three Protection. At that time something between mid and min forging. And the two warding were Peerl.
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Feb 24 2019, 11:19
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,282
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 24 2019, 09:35)  350k profit is a lie. A PFFEST nets around 45k credits, roughly as much when it comes to bazaared equipment (excluding potential HGC), 6 crystals packs (@21k each), and then PAs are pretty variable (I'll count barely enough PA to compensate for the consumption of an ED), the rest (shards, gums, scrolls infusions and such) is very random. Overall we're far under 350k. Maybe 200k-250k at most. That is, you get this with all trainings maxed out.
And then there are players that use gum and vase! Even if you use only like 10 of each for the tough part, that's about 250-290k. And why? For the slight chance to get a good drop? That's too rare to mention. Just say 'no' to those drugs, mkay?
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Feb 24 2019, 11:20
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:11)  Uncle... IIRC your set are full Savage, right???
Yup, full savage. I am really proud of it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:11)  what stats do you prioritize when you bought them??? of course first adb and STR, then what??? crit chance first or crit damage first??? and how minimum the adb needed??? Ehm, should i actually tell you the truth? It could disapoint you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:11)  I'm thinking of upgrading my boots for Savage one... in WTS, I found 3 of options them... which one do you think the best???
Well lets have a look. QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:11)  I would take the Level 464 boots. QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:11)  or maybe I better search for non-Savage with near-peerl adb??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Well that depends, for what do you actually want to build that set?
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Feb 24 2019, 11:35
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Greshnik
Group: Members
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Joined: 13-January 15

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 24 2019, 16:20)  Yup, full savage. I am really proud of it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Ehm, should i actually tell you the truth? It could disapoint you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) tell us, lol... or just show the link of your equipments... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE Well lets have a look.
I would take the Level 464 boots. hmm... the same as my initial thought... but why do you take it over the other 2??? I only choose it because the other 2 are too extreme (low adb + high crit or high adb or low crit)... QUOTE Well that depends, for what do you actually want to build that set?
well, I plan to use it mainly for IW (and GF eventually)... maybe I'll need less cure if I use power boots of protect/warding instead my current power boots of balance??? and I think the accuracy of 2 balance is too much... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Greshnik: Feb 24 2019, 11:36
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Feb 24 2019, 11:37
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 24 2019, 09:19)  And then there are players that use gum and vase! Even if you use only like 10 of each for the tough part, that's about 250-290k. And why? For the slight chance to get a good drop? That's too rare to mention.
Just say 'no' to those drugs, mkay?
While I consider that using scrolls stays somewhat decent, yes gums and vase are a bit overkill to my eyes.
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Feb 24 2019, 11:44
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:35)  tell us, lol...
Well in the mean time only two pieces are left from that time, but when i first did go for a full savage set, the only thing i did actually care about was "drum-roll" that they were savage. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:35)  or just show the link of your equipments... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Oh, ehm. Do you have some time, i am right in the middle of a GF. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I just come literally all 100 rounds here to see if there is a post i actually want to answer. So you can feel yourself honored. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:35)  but why do you take it over the other 2???
You mean why i would take this above the others? Easy, it has imo the best mix of defence and damage and the Dex is also nice imo. QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:35)  well, I plan to use it mainly for IW (and GF eventually)...
I see, well in that case i would actually suggest you to allways take a look at MM and PM. You will need them when you play GF QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 10:35)  maybe I'll need less cure if I use power boots of protect/warding instead my current power boots of balance??? and I think the accuracy of 2 balance is too much... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, if i had a good one and if i had the materials to forge it. I would use balance only for the SG arenas.
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Feb 24 2019, 11:48
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KamuiSeph
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,076
Joined: 29-August 08

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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 18:35)  hmm... the same as my initial thought... but why do you take it over the other 2??? I only choose it because the other 2 are too extreme (low adb + high crit or high adb or low crit)...
464 compared to 444 has better mitigation, dex and adb. str/end/crit dmg not that different. So 444 has better crit chance. Everything else is either roughly the same or 464 is better. And 458 is only better in adb (not by much, mind you) but is worse in every other category.
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Feb 24 2019, 14:01
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Greshnik
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Posts: 669
Joined: 13-January 15

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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 24 2019, 16:48)  464 compared to 444 has better mitigation, dex and adb. str/end/crit dmg not that different. So 444 has better crit chance. Everything else is either roughly the same or 464 is better. And 458 is only better in adb (not by much, mind you) but is worse in every other category.
oh you right... I forgot to consider the mitigation as I thought those boots of protection will always roughly better in that aspect compared to my boots of balance... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'll probably buy the 464 one when I could soulfuse it as IMO the adb is compromised by the str... hope it still not sold by then...
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Feb 24 2019, 14:43
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,228
Joined: 28-April 14

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Yea I guess 350k profit is too good to be true lol. Even around 250k it's not too bad tho. It's not as profitable as arena per stamina, but comes close. Well but then again I'll have to wait until getting a mage set, a VERY STRONG one too, to even consider doing it for profit on daily basis. Can't grind 3hrs every day as 1H...
Also, as you guys said, I've been always wondering about who buys those gum and vases? Honestly I wouldn't buy them even if they lasted 500 turns, but 50 turns? I just don't get how it works lmao.
EDIT: Is LGBD worth it before doing pffest? Or in other words, is ED worth chugging for that marginal extra exp from arena? I personally don't think so even though I'm power levelling like crazy, would appreciated your opinions on this. Currently I'm considering getting some exp perks (already got the first one) after I get the DD1. I don't think I'll be getting Crystarium for a while tho. Any other perks you recommend? I have the following perks activated right now: VV, Thinking Cap, IA3, Tokenizer 1.
Do mages get depr prof perk? Right now I'm not sure if I'll go dark or elemental yet, but either way I think I'll be using imperil, so if depr prof is something mages get anyways, I might as well get it now since it's also good for 1H style too.
This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 24 2019, 14:54
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Feb 24 2019, 14:50
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 24 2019, 13:43)  I've been always wondering about who buys those gum and vases?
Hath barons.
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Feb 24 2019, 15:10
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qr12345
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,905
Joined: 27-April 17

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 24 2019, 12:43)  EDIT: Is LGBD worth it before doing pffest? Or in other words, is ED worth chugging for that marginal extra exp from arena? I personally don't think so even though I'm power levelling like crazy, would appreciated your opinions on this. Currently I'm considering getting some exp perks (already got the first one) after I get the DD1. I don't think I'll be getting Crystarium for a while tho.
It's your preference. I don't consider exp important, so I just have AL 200/300 and no exp perk. I am not playing at >80 stamina but just for keeping stamina>10. After I get LGBD I use at least 1ED everyday and I want more stamina. QUOTE Any other perks you recommend? I have the following perks activated right now: VV, Thinking Cap, IA3, Tokenizer 1. I would say Tokenizer 2 or DD2. QUOTE Do mages get depr prof perk? Right now I'm not sure if I'll go dark or elemental yet, but either way I think I'll be using imperil, so if depr prof is something mages get anyways, I might as well get it now since it's also good for 1H style too.
Yes. Counter-resist for imperil is important. This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 24 2019, 15:15
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Feb 24 2019, 15:16
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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Thanks for the inputs. So I guess you want more stamina because you do pffest every day? Because under 80 the daily stamina should be mostly enough to do all the arena runs. Oh yea but then again you do IW service, I see....
Hmm, in that case, I think I'd get depr prof perk after DD1 and maybe some more exp perks. As of now the only use I'll get out of LGBD would be solely for exp purpose, and I think for that getting exp perks are more cost effective.
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Feb 24 2019, 17:34
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t_t_z
Group: Gold Star Club
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I'm not sure why other people are getting lower profits than 350k... here are my old data over a course of 23 PFFESTs... This is with max training, Crys V and LGBD ofc, so perhaps you're assuming with less perks/trainings? Currently my net profit is even slightly greater, as my net cost these days are around ~123k instead of ~130+k. This current sheet is of old data without formulas since they made the sheet take a long time to recalculate, I can put them back in if necessary. [ drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JZG3Uu9tyZ...iew?usp=sharingHere is a temporary version I made with the formulas in (and some more newly updated prices, though haven't changed much): [ drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a3B6sLDSVn...iew?usp=sharingCheck the sheet "itemPriceUsages" for averages / such and "gfProfit" for the above data. Note that modifying anything with this version will likely take a while to update. This post has been edited by t_t_z: Feb 24 2019, 18:05
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Feb 24 2019, 18:04
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qr12345
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-April 17

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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Feb 24 2019, 15:34)  This current sheet is of old data without formulas since they made the sheet take a long time to recalculate, I can put them back in if necessary. [ drive.google.com] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JZG3Uu9tyZ...iew?usp=sharingI have several screenshots for drops/usage for mage GF runs too. However I am lazy to do calculations. This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 24 2019, 18:05
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Feb 24 2019, 22:43
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xesxesgnik
Group: Gold Star Club
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7000 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Wonder why DD is not reflected on the stat screen tho...how would I know it was reflected or not lol. 
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Feb 24 2019, 22:52
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 24 2019, 21:43)  7000 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Wonder why DD is not reflected on the stat screen tho...how would I know it was reflected or not lol. Because it is a multiplicator, just like the bonus from Godslayer.
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