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Feb 24 2019, 05:27
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Feb 24 2019, 05:22)  Oh, very good point. Those data were with maxed arch/etc trainings, would be less worth it without.
And you get 9 hath (?) I think, +10k c and gp / day
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Feb 24 2019, 07:27
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VawX
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Crystarium IV or Tokenizer II mmm...~? I do quite a lot of GF mmm...
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Feb 24 2019, 07:33
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(VawX @ Feb 24 2019, 06:27)  Crystarium IV or Tokenizer II mmm...~? I do quite a lot of GF mmm...
Even if you do a lot of GF, i would still suggest go Token II first.
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Feb 24 2019, 07:43
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VawX
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 24 2019, 12:33)  Even if you do a lot of GF, i would still suggest go Token II first.
Got it uncle mmm...~!
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Feb 24 2019, 07:46
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Uncle Stu
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I mean if you want some crystals, go buy them, but what will you do when you want some tokens? Yeah, exactly you have to drop them yourself. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) And i have to admit, i did it the other way around, i got the Crys Perks first, and i really regret doing that.
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Feb 24 2019, 07:58
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VawX
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I mean Crys III already pretty nice, and I have too many crystals now, too lazy to sell them mmm...
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Feb 24 2019, 08:22
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Greshnik
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quick question... do forging elemental spell damage increase the elemental strike damage??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) This post has been edited by Greshnik: Feb 24 2019, 08:22
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Feb 24 2019, 08:24
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qr12345
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 24 2019, 06:22)  quick question... do forging elemental spell damage increase the elemental strike damage??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) no.
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Feb 24 2019, 08:29
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VawX
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 24 2019, 13:02)  What about using them? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Oh I use them, but only to feed my monster by using bare minimal lol mmm...
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Feb 24 2019, 08:38
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 24 2019, 07:24)  no.
Sad, isnt it. I was so dissapointed when i did notice that forging that didnt give me anything. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(VawX @ Feb 24 2019, 07:29)  Oh I use them, but only to feed my monster by using bare minimal lol mmm...
So just to save some happy pills?
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Feb 24 2019, 08:53
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Greshnik
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 24 2019, 13:24)  no.
hoo... I'll round up my elec to 10 then just call it a day... thank you... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Feb 24 2019, 09:42
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xesxesgnik
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just out of curiosity, how much crystals you get out of single run of pffest? Even for crys 1 to be worth it you have to garner up 500k crystals and I wonder how that is possible in reasonable amount of time unless pffest spits out loads of crystals
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Feb 24 2019, 09:44
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qr12345
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 24 2019, 07:42)  just out of curiosity, how much crystals you get out of single run of pffest? Even for crys 1 to be worth it you have to garner up 500k crystals and I wonder how that is possible in reasonable amount of time unless pffest spits out loads of crystals
Around 74k~80k crystals with Crystarium V. That's 6.1~6.6 crystal packs. This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 24 2019, 09:45
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Feb 24 2019, 09:47
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 24 2019, 16:44)  Around 74k~80k crystals with Crystarium V. That's 6.1~6.6 crystal packs.
Now the question is, how many crystals do you get without Crystarium perks... Is it just a straight divide by 10? QUOTE Crystarium V Further increases the number of crystals received per drop to ten. This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Feb 24 2019, 09:47
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Feb 24 2019, 09:48
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 24 2019, 08:44)  Around 74k~80k crystals with Crystarium V.
Funfact, this is only 10k more than what you get from a IWBTHFest which is much easier to clear. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 24 2019, 09:52
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qr12345
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 24 2019, 07:47)  Now the question is, how many crystals do you get without Crystarium perks... Is it just a straight divide by 10?
I guess it would be less than that. The formula is quite complicated for crystal drop for GF.
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Feb 24 2019, 09:53
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 24 2019, 02:44)  Around 74k~80k crystals with Crystarium V. That's 6.1~6.6 crystal packs.
I see. That's about 60 pffest and 200 pffest to break even for crys I and V, respectively. But when you calculate the profit for pffest don't we usually also take into account lgbd and ed? If crystals's the main source of income in pffest I gotta say it's a very very long term investment indeed lol. (With ED cost, it's essentially 1 crystal pack profit per pffest, which means 1300 pffest for crys v and you shouldn't even bother to do pffest until you get crys V) Is there other source of income for pffest? I'm inclined to believe so QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 24 2019, 02:48)  Funfact, this is only 10k more than what you get from a IWBTHFest which is much easier to clear. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) lol, really? So I guess you maybe tried out yourself at one point of time? This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 24 2019, 09:54
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Feb 24 2019, 09:56
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 24 2019, 08:53)  I see. That's about 60 pffest and 200 pffest to break even for crys I and V
Less, you forget that those crystals you get for just playing normal arenas. It is not the world, but it is something. QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 24 2019, 08:53)  lol, really? So I guess you maybe tried out yourself at one point of time?
Really. From what i still have written down of that time IWBTH Fest with Crys V gives your between 75k and 79k crystals. And well, not so much tried out as more got closer and closer to clearing PFUDORFest without SoL. From HellFest, over NintendoFest and IBTHFest i got to PFUDORFest. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 24 2019, 09:59
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Feb 24 2019, 09:57
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KamuiSeph
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Hmmm... If it's just a straight divide by 10 then.... Assuming each crystal is worth 2C (for convenience sake, as packs of 12x1000 go for as low as 20,4K) Then you would get QUOTE Around 74k~80k crystals with Crystarium V 77k crystals average, or 154,000 C per PFFEST Alternatively QUOTE Around 7,4k~8k crystals without Crystarium 7,7k Crystals average, or 15,400 C per PFFEST Crystarium V costs 7,750 hath total. Going by average price atm of 4068C per hath, that's.... 31,527,000 C The difference being 154,000 C - 15,400 C = 138,600C That would mean you need to run 31,527,000 / 138,600 = ~228 PFFESTS For it to pay itself off.
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