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post Feb 23 2019, 19:43
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You should try to switch the axe with something that has a decent parry. Rapier is mostly recommend.
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post Feb 23 2019, 19:43
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Feb 23 2019, 10:17) *

Because grinding several hundred grindfest rounds for a few thsouand C doesn't seem to make sense. And without massive hath investments - crystarrium+monsters doesn't really work either.

A majority of the profit I get from GFs comes from artifacts still though; I'm averaging about ~360k profit, 8.5 PAs~=187k, 46750 credits, 77890 crystals~=123k at Crys V, and about 55k from lesser equipment drops. From estimated value, it can be assumed that most of profit is from PA >> Lesser Equipment drops ~>= Credits, with crystal contribution less than PA even if at Crys V, and less depending on Crys. The average profit is calculated from an average cost of ~133435, of which 106050 is from 21 stamina from Energy Drink with Long gone before daylight perk; add another 106050 if without.

Even then, it should be profitable without any Crys at all but with LGBD, and slightly profitable / breakeven without either of those.

(Note: these are of course not taken into account time spent doing this and/or wrist injuries doing this lol... after all it may just be better to get a job and then sell stars)

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post Feb 23 2019, 19:44
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QUOTE(hopkar @ Feb 23 2019, 19:43) *

You should try to switch the axe with something that has a decent parry. Rapier is mostly recommend.

working on IW' my rapier (see sig)
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post Feb 23 2019, 19:49
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Feb 23 2019, 12:32) *

or 50.1% with a Shielding Plate set and loose 1/5th of my damage, and 7% speed.


Power is good (presuming you're surviving and don't have to heal a ton), but speed is actually sometimes detrimental for the most part for 1H (if you're surviving well, it means more of your turns and less of the monsters' turns, and thus less counterattacks). I'd suggest reducing w/e is the source of your speed (too much agi perhaps?). Also rapier is generally preferred since it's proc is quite a bit better.

Also, I'm not sure what your strategy is, but Focus is quite useless (saw you used it a few times in your screenshot). I'd suggest going towards OFC as well.

In regards to "get more crushing + piercing resistance", I assume defense isn't too much of a problem, seeing how you used only 5 cures and no health consumables. Block improves both offense and defensive btw, since more counters = more dmg.

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post Feb 23 2019, 19:54
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Ah. I know what's the problem mmm...



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post Feb 23 2019, 20:24
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1) hath perk Extra Strength Formula useful?
2) hath perk That's Good Eatin' useful?
3) training Metabolism useful?
4) training Inspiration useful?
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post Feb 23 2019, 20:29
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Feb 23 2019, 18:24) *

1) hath perk Extra Strength Formula useful?
2) hath perk That's Good Eatin' useful?
3) training Metabolism useful?
4) training Inspiration useful?

Yes if you are very patient.
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post Feb 23 2019, 20:33
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Yes if you are very patient.

i'm very patient. perhaps the most patient here.
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post Feb 23 2019, 20:40
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Feb 23 2019, 18:33) *

i'm very patient. perhaps the most patient here.

Then you can go for them.
I would never touch them until level 500, however.

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post Feb 23 2019, 23:24
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Feb 23 2019, 18:24) *

1) hath perk Extra Strength Formula useful?
2) hath perk That's Good Eatin' useful?
3) training Metabolism useful?
4) training Inspiration useful?

Only if you are overloaded with monsters and use happy pills to restore them.
Even then, a potential ROI would take forever.
The only actual, real use of all this is not to have to use the forums to buy food/pills from other players.
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post Feb 24 2019, 01:24
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Should I just use up my precursor artifacts if I have no bonus PABs from them? It's not like I'm in dire need of quick cash, but they are stacking up a bit. (Well not that much anyways, but like 60)
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post Feb 24 2019, 01:29
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Personally i use them all. I mean after a bit calculation and a missunderstanding in the end what you get out of them is more or less worth as much as what you would get if you sell them. And i like it pille up ED, get some crystals to level up my monster or additional hath. But other do swear on selling just all of them. In the end it depends only what you personaly prefer.
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post Feb 24 2019, 01:33
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 23 2019, 20:24) *

Should I just use up my precursor artifacts if I have no bonus PABs from them? It's not like I'm in dire need of quick cash, but they are stacking up a bit. (Well not that much anyways, but like 60)


I would say yes.

If you decide to do this, I'd like to ask you a favor. You could perform exchanges of 100 artifacts and post the results on "What's the last thing you've (not) accomplished?"? Since you do not have any primary attribute points derived from an artifact, it would be interesting to know what percentage of PABs you will have in a first exchange. It turns out that everyone who has posted this type of result (including me) already had some points due to random and unregistered exchanges.

Example: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5298131

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post Feb 24 2019, 01:47
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 23 2019, 18:29) *

Personally i use them all. I mean after a bit calculation and a missunderstanding in the end what you get out of them is more or less worth as much as what you would get if you sell them. And i like it pille up ED, get some crystals to level up my monster or additional hath. But other do swear on selling just all of them. In the end it depends only what you personaly prefer.


I've been trying to sell it @23k for few days now but seems no one wants it at the price quote and I'm too greedy to sell it at 22k so I guess I'll just use it for myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Feb 23 2019, 18:33) *

If you decide to do this, I'd like to ask you a favor. You could perform exchanges of 100 artifacts and post the results on "What's the last thing you've (not) accomplished?"?


Will do! Since I'm not in a hurry, I'll just get the rest of thirty some artifacts and shrine 100 at once and post the result (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Feb 24 2019, 03:58
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Feb 23 2019, 19:43) *

A majority of the profit I get from GFs comes from artifacts still though; I'm averaging about ~360k profit, 8.5 PAs~=187k, 46750 credits, 77890 crystals~=123k at Crys V, and about 55k from lesser equipment drops. From estimated value, it can be assumed that most of profit is from PA >> Lesser Equipment drops ~>= Credits, with crystal contribution less than PA even if at Crys V, and less depending on Crys. The average profit is calculated from an average cost of ~133435, of which 106050 is from 21 stamina from Energy Drink with Long gone before daylight perk; add another 106050 if without.

Even then, it should be profitable without any Crys at all but with LGBD, and slightly profitable / breakeven without either of those.

(Note: these are of course not taken into account time spent doing this and/or wrist injuries doing this lol... after all it may just be better to get a job and then sell stars)

Does this take into account training?

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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Feb 23 2019, 20:58) *

Does this take into account training?


Oh, very good point. Those data were with maxed arch/etc trainings, would be less worth it without.
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post Feb 24 2019, 05:27
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QUOTE(t_t_z @ Feb 24 2019, 05:22) *

Oh, very good point. Those data were with maxed arch/etc trainings, would be less worth it without.

And you get 9 hath (?) I think, +10k c and gp / day
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:27
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Crystarium IV or Tokenizer II mmm...~?
I do quite a lot of GF mmm...
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:33
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QUOTE(VawX @ Feb 24 2019, 06:27) *

Crystarium IV or Tokenizer II mmm...~?
I do quite a lot of GF mmm...
Even if you do a lot of GF, i would still suggest go Token II first.
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:43
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 24 2019, 12:33) *

Even if you do a lot of GF, i would still suggest go Token II first.


Got it uncle mmm...~!
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