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post Feb 23 2019, 08:34
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10 mil worth dark mage for DwD?

Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Focus 14% MDB 74% EDB 21% Dark Prof Unforged (Trash)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Cap of Fenrir 39% EDB Unforged (another trash)
Legendary Onyx Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend 92% prof, 5Jug IW, 50 Prof forge (might cost around 4-5 mil, and that's mainly for the forging)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Gloves of Fenrir 31% EDB Unforged (more trash)
Legendary Ruby Cotton Pants of the Demon-fiend 50% Dark Prof, Unforged (yeah...)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Shoes of Fenrir 75% EDB ( ¯\(ツ)/¯ )

DD 1 IA 5
0.840 prof factor, 3154 MDB, 230.9% EDB
63.1 % PMI 65.7 % MMI 53.2 % EVA 22.9 % parry 62.6 % resist
Only imperil SG.
The playstyle is as vanilla as playing 1h without OFC

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It could be faster if using imperil on every monster, but ehh... what's done is done.
I believe you won't be able to do this without sufficient level for the investment in base dex-end (for parry and HP).
and eventhough it's working fine on SG, I believe it will a be head-scratching play on non SG arena.

so, 10 mil worth of mage equip for dark mage?
it can be done, just drive a hard bargain for the equips (plain prefix, unpopular cloth/phase slot), then use most of the fund for light-mild forge (i.e it cost ~800K to forge clothes prof to 20, and ~2M for phase EDB to 10, 2 cloth 3 phase 1.6M+6M =7.6M, rest for staff 25EDB+MDB is about 2M iinm)
drawback is it'll be a hard stretch to expect it usable to clear pf-grindfest comfortably even after mid-heavy forge.

but should you?
IMO, no.
it's a wasteful investment to buy 6 pieces of rags if you expect to regularly use the playstyle and expand it for a long period of time.
Different story if you had 2-3 decent pieces ready and fill the rest with rags to make it work.

and as I said a few times, don't try to be cheapskate when trying maging or you're in for another dimension of hurts. cheap set will work but there are a long list of terms and condition.
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post Feb 23 2019, 08:50
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 23 2019, 07:18) *

Got it.

How much would it cost for a battlecast waki or buckler? I don't recall seeing any battlecaster in auctions...

Also, what would be the ideal IW for waki? I thought all of them become useless except swift maybe?


I played 1h mage for a while. Quite a fun style - fun, not overpowering good.

You are not using the waki for hitting monsters. So IW doesn't matter. Hollowforged might reduce burden , but I never got there: Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of the Battlecaster, because featherweights are so cheap. So ideal IW would be leave it, and use featherweight shards. I used this waki of battlecaster together with barrier buckler, and got it working.

Edit: thanks Uncle, you are right of course, IW on 1h mage weapon is completely silly and useless.

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post Feb 23 2019, 08:55
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2019, 07:50) *

Hollowforged might reduce burden

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Since when?
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post Feb 23 2019, 10:16
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 23 2019, 07:55) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Since when?

it doesn't? That shows you how good I'm at melee stuff.

from the wiki (that I didn't read):

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This does not turn a weapon into a true Ethereal Weapon (it still has burden/interference).


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I really suck at being an expert!
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post Feb 23 2019, 11:25
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2019, 08:16) *

from the wiki (that I didn't read):
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I really suck at being an expert!

I hereby revoke your rights to edit the wiki. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Feb 23 2019, 11:37
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 23 2019, 10:25) *

I hereby revoke your rights to edit the wiki. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Go right ahead if you think that is needed. I didn't know you were wiki admin already? The wiki says you aren't, maybe it's outdated?

By the way, I did read the stuff that I wrote (and it's all gold, pure gold - big companies are fighting over the movie rights as we speak)
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post Feb 23 2019, 11:44
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2019, 10:37) *

(and it's all gold, pure gold - big companies are fighting over the movie rights as we speak)

And that is the big mistake most people do. First make money with the writing and build a fanbase second comes the movie and third is make sure the movie doesnt suck ass. Fourth is just enjoy your shit-tone of money. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 23 2019, 13:31
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2019, 03:50) *
IW on 1h mage weapon is completely silly and useless.

I think Butcher may help with counter-attack damage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(just if someone wants to be seriously perfectionist about no-stick maging... don't think it would worth the cost to try something like butcher 5 though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) so yeah, it may fit in "silly" and is mostly "useless" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )
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post Feb 23 2019, 13:37
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Capped at ~60/day; cap recovers by 1 every 2 hours.


This is the description for soul fragments drop from RE. Shouldn't it supposed to be 5 every 2 hours instead?

Also, is it true that DD is not reflected on the base damage you see in the stats? I wonder why's that the case since VV is taken into account on the HP. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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post Feb 23 2019, 13:43
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 23 2019, 19:31) *

I think Butcher may help with counter-attack damage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(just if someone wants to be seriously perfectionist about no-stick maging... don't think it would worth the cost to try something like butcher 5 though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) so yeah, it may fit in "silly" and is mostly "useless" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )


If you try yourself, you will find, that Counter-Attack do little Damage with 1H-Mage. The Function of Counter-Attact is Stun. Butcher 5 can boost OFC a little, which can almost kill all Monsters after using Imperil (1H-Melee can do it without Imperil, that's the Difference), but without Buchter 5 the OFC still works.
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post Feb 23 2019, 14:41
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Feb 23 2019, 08:43) *
If you try yourself, you will find, that Counter-Attack do little Damage with 1H-Mage. The Function of Counter-Attact is Stun. Butcher 5 can boost OFC a little, which can almost kill all Monsters after using Imperil (1H-Melee can do it without Imperil, that's the Difference), but without Buchter 5 the OFC still works.

Yep, just pointing out that IW on 1h mage weapon may not be "completely" useless... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I did play 1h mage for fun on ~2015 or so... made a few tests on GF runs, and made it through round ~500 or so... but it was so much worse than my mage set at the time that I never bothered to make a serious build out of it... pretty fun experiment though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 23 2019, 14:54
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 23 2019, 20:41) *

Yep, just pointing out that IW on 1h mage weapon may not be "completely" useless... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I did play 1h mage for fun on ~2015 or so... made a few tests on GF runs, and made it through round ~500 or so... but it was so much worse than my mage set at the time that I never bothered to make a serious build out of it... pretty fun experiment though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yes, it works only for Fun. It can't replace the Staff-Mage Set. I don't (need to) build a serious Set of it either, but just use the same Armors of my Staff-Mage.
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post Feb 23 2019, 16:41
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Guys... I there a convenient forge material calculator somewhere?
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post Feb 23 2019, 16:57
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 23 2019, 14:41) *

Guys... I there a convenient forge material calculator somewhere?

HV Utils.
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post Feb 23 2019, 17:17
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aside from all the cookies, pastries, stars, and other awards - is there any other way to actually get 'rich'?

Because grinding several hundred grindfest rounds for a few thsouand C doesn't seem to make sense. And without massive hath investments - crystarrium+monsters doesn't really work either.
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post Feb 23 2019, 17:23
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fack grindfests, just daily clear all arenas for tokens, artifacts and trophies
u not gonna be rich but couple of millions per week is possible, more if u selling EDs
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post Feb 23 2019, 17:25
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Feb 23 2019, 15:17) *

aside from all the cookies, pastries, stars, and other awards - is there any other way to actually get 'rich'?

Because grinding several hundred grindfest rounds for a few thsouand C doesn't seem to make sense. And without massive hath investments - crystarrium+monsters doesn't really work either.

Grindest is only there to burn your time and stamina for crystals and a few tokens, mostly.
Credits and equipments are only a bonus that shouldn't be relied on.
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post Feb 23 2019, 17:42
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so, sit for hours doing arenas.
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post Feb 23 2019, 17:46
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Feb 23 2019, 10:42) *

so, sit for hours doing arenas.


You'll get faster at doing it eventually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

and you can stand up while doing it
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post Feb 23 2019, 18:46
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Or you could do hentai@home, adopt-a-server, or sell a gold star if you are willing to shed out a few dollars for credits. Other than that, you gotta grind some time into it.
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