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post Feb 22 2019, 17:51
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lol I think I'll just use the free dark descent service a lot but I get your point.
I first have to get VV and Tokenizer 1 and hopefully DD1 tho, since I think i'll be staying 1H for sometimes :/
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post Feb 22 2019, 20:18
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As I was saying the other day, you really need a rock-solid setup to rely on and prepare your switch in optimal conditions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
It includes equipment with some forging, trainings, hath perks and depr prof.

Switching to mage is really not to be underestimated, even less to attempt with very minimal means. In particular, you'll be most likely investing in forge efforts that will be lost for good, especially if you use lower quality equipment that will need to be replaced more or less quickly. In which case a solid setup to fall back on is mandatory.
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post Feb 23 2019, 05:07
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If budget is a concern, 1h mage really could be considered - much cheaper to get arena ready. The only big issue is that you won't be able to do the schoolgirl arenas - either stick with 1h or use mage for that (mage on schoolgirls a lot easier than the non-schoolgirl arenas).
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post Feb 23 2019, 05:21
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QUOTE(magiclamp @ Feb 22 2019, 22:07) *

If budget is a concern, 1h mage really could be considered - much cheaper to get arena ready. The only big issue is that you won't be able to do the schoolgirl arenas - either stick with 1h or use mage for that (mage on schoolgirls a lot easier than the non-schoolgirl arenas).


Is buckler of battlecaster better than buckler of barrier?

I don't usually see people using battlecaster, is it better on some occasion?
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post Feb 23 2019, 05:30
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 22 2019, 22:21) *

Is buckler of battlecaster better than buckler of barrier?

I don't usually see people using battlecaster, is it better on some occasion?

my guess is that 1H mage mana pool sucks, they need the mana conservation the battlecaster provides
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post Feb 23 2019, 08:04
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 22 2019, 22:21) *

Is buckler of battlecaster better than buckler of barrier?

I don't usually see people using battlecaster, is it better on some occasion?


Either the waki or the buckler should be battlecaster for the mana conservation and magic accuracy. Depends on what you can get your hands on. Buckler of battlecaster will have higher conservation/accuracy, but less defense compared to barrier. No trouble clearing peerless PFUDOR IW with buckler of battlecaster, but maybe on grindfest it makes a difference.
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post Feb 23 2019, 08:18
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Got it.

How much would it cost for a battlecast waki or buckler? I don't recall seeing any battlecaster in auctions...

Also, what would be the ideal IW for waki? I thought all of them become useless except swift maybe?
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post Feb 23 2019, 08:34
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10 mil worth dark mage for DwD?

Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Focus 14% MDB 74% EDB 21% Dark Prof Unforged (Trash)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Cap of Fenrir 39% EDB Unforged (another trash)
Legendary Onyx Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend 92% prof, 5Jug IW, 50 Prof forge (might cost around 4-5 mil, and that's mainly for the forging)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Gloves of Fenrir 31% EDB Unforged (more trash)
Legendary Ruby Cotton Pants of the Demon-fiend 50% Dark Prof, Unforged (yeah...)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Shoes of Fenrir 75% EDB ( Β―\(ツ)/Β― )

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0.840 prof factor, 3154 MDB, 230.9% EDB
63.1 % PMI 65.7 % MMI 53.2 % EVA 22.9 % parry 62.6 % resist
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The playstyle is as vanilla as playing 1h without OFC

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It could be faster if using imperil on every monster, but ehh... what's done is done.
I believe you won't be able to do this without sufficient level for the investment in base dex-end (for parry and HP).
and eventhough it's working fine on SG, I believe it will a be head-scratching play on non SG arena.

so, 10 mil worth of mage equip for dark mage?
it can be done, just drive a hard bargain for the equips (plain prefix, unpopular cloth/phase slot), then use most of the fund for light-mild forge (i.e it cost ~800K to forge clothes prof to 20, and ~2M for phase EDB to 10, 2 cloth 3 phase 1.6M+6M =7.6M, rest for staff 25EDB+MDB is about 2M iinm)
drawback is it'll be a hard stretch to expect it usable to clear pf-grindfest comfortably even after mid-heavy forge.

but should you?
IMO, no.
it's a wasteful investment to buy 6 pieces of rags if you expect to regularly use the playstyle and expand it for a long period of time.
Different story if you had 2-3 decent pieces ready and fill the rest with rags to make it work.

and as I said a few times, don't try to be cheapskate when trying maging or you're in for another dimension of hurts. cheap set will work but there are a long list of terms and condition.
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post Feb 23 2019, 08:50
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 23 2019, 07:18) *

Got it.

How much would it cost for a battlecast waki or buckler? I don't recall seeing any battlecaster in auctions...

Also, what would be the ideal IW for waki? I thought all of them become useless except swift maybe?


I played 1h mage for a while. Quite a fun style - fun, not overpowering good.

You are not using the waki for hitting monsters. So IW doesn't matter. Hollowforged might reduce burden , but I never got there: Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of the Battlecaster, because featherweights are so cheap. So ideal IW would be leave it, and use featherweight shards. I used this waki of battlecaster together with barrier buckler, and got it working.

Edit: thanks Uncle, you are right of course, IW on 1h mage weapon is completely silly and useless.

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post Feb 23 2019, 08:55
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2019, 07:50) *

Hollowforged might reduce burden

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Since when?
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post Feb 23 2019, 10:16
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 23 2019, 07:55) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Since when?

it doesn't? That shows you how good I'm at melee stuff.

from the wiki (that I didn't read):

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This does not turn a weapon into a true Ethereal Weapon (it still has burden/interference).


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I really suck at being an expert!
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post Feb 23 2019, 11:25
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2019, 08:16) *

from the wiki (that I didn't read):
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I really suck at being an expert!

I hereby revoke your rights to edit the wiki. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Feb 23 2019, 11:37
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 23 2019, 10:25) *

I hereby revoke your rights to edit the wiki. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Go right ahead if you think that is needed. I didn't know you were wiki admin already? The wiki says you aren't, maybe it's outdated?

By the way, I did read the stuff that I wrote (and it's all gold, pure gold - big companies are fighting over the movie rights as we speak)
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post Feb 23 2019, 11:44
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(and it's all gold, pure gold - big companies are fighting over the movie rights as we speak)

And that is the big mistake most people do. First make money with the writing and build a fanbase second comes the movie and third is make sure the movie doesnt suck ass. Fourth is just enjoy your shit-tone of money. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 23 2019, 13:31
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 23 2019, 03:50) *
IW on 1h mage weapon is completely silly and useless.

I think Butcher may help with counter-attack damage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(just if someone wants to be seriously perfectionist about no-stick maging... don't think it would worth the cost to try something like butcher 5 though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) so yeah, it may fit in "silly" and is mostly "useless" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )
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post Feb 23 2019, 13:37
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Capped at ~60/day; cap recovers by 1 every 2 hours.


This is the description for soul fragments drop from RE. Shouldn't it supposed to be 5 every 2 hours instead?

Also, is it true that DD is not reflected on the base damage you see in the stats? I wonder why's that the case since VV is taken into account on the HP. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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post Feb 23 2019, 13:43
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 23 2019, 19:31) *

I think Butcher may help with counter-attack damage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

(just if someone wants to be seriously perfectionist about no-stick maging... don't think it would worth the cost to try something like butcher 5 though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) so yeah, it may fit in "silly" and is mostly "useless" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )


If you try yourself, you will find, that Counter-Attack do little Damage with 1H-Mage. The Function of Counter-Attact is Stun. Butcher 5 can boost OFC a little, which can almost kill all Monsters after using Imperil (1H-Melee can do it without Imperil, that's the Difference), but without Buchter 5 the OFC still works.
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post Feb 23 2019, 14:41
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Feb 23 2019, 08:43) *
If you try yourself, you will find, that Counter-Attack do little Damage with 1H-Mage. The Function of Counter-Attact is Stun. Butcher 5 can boost OFC a little, which can almost kill all Monsters after using Imperil (1H-Melee can do it without Imperil, that's the Difference), but without Buchter 5 the OFC still works.

Yep, just pointing out that IW on 1h mage weapon may not be "completely" useless... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I did play 1h mage for fun on ~2015 or so... made a few tests on GF runs, and made it through round ~500 or so... but it was so much worse than my mage set at the time that I never bothered to make a serious build out of it... pretty fun experiment though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 23 2019, 14:54
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Feb 23 2019, 20:41) *

Yep, just pointing out that IW on 1h mage weapon may not be "completely" useless... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I did play 1h mage for fun on ~2015 or so... made a few tests on GF runs, and made it through round ~500 or so... but it was so much worse than my mage set at the time that I never bothered to make a serious build out of it... pretty fun experiment though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yes, it works only for Fun. It can't replace the Staff-Mage Set. I don't (need to) build a serious Set of it either, but just use the same Armors of my Staff-Mage.
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post Feb 23 2019, 16:41
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Guys... I there a convenient forge material calculator somewhere?
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