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No, that won't survive even arena.

my set: selfdrop-staff and ~1.25m equip, and i re-bought my staff for 400k
dunno how much forging cost, i bought some materials, others got from the labs,
but I don't think it took more than 2.35m
so my current set ~4m
i can survive all arenas in PFUDOR. using only draughts and pots

Sadly it leads to saying "60m or play 1H" to newer players, which is fundamentally wrong and if 10 min increase on D&D is not much than nothing is much.
That's more realistic, but let me tell you this - I spent under 10m for set that burns daily stamina in ~1h and it's something that should be recommended.

my set: selfdrop-staff and ~1.25m equip, and i re-bought my staff for 400k
dunno how much forging cost, i bought some materials, others got from the labs,
but I don't think it took more than 2.35m
so my current set ~4m
i can survive all arenas in PFUDOR. using only draughts and pots

Wow that's pretty nice actually. How long does it take you to clear arenas btw? For instance DwD?

Wow that's pretty nice actually. How long does it take you to clear arenas btw? For instance DwD?

DwD ~50 min, yeah, it's slow, but possible and not hard. i'm James May of HV.

I wasn't talking about surviving, I was talking about decently playable. If it was about surviving, Forge 5-10 on everything is enough.

One plays mage to go faster, not to lose his time healing so that there is barely any improvement over 1H.

But then, maybe one can assemble a low quality set with barely 200-500k apiece. There will still be huge costs in HGC.

Yea I'd say 50min is a bit too much. Benny-boy setup something under 10m and he said he burns 1200 staminas rounds in an hour so that might be a better comparison tho. Even if he was really lucky with his finding, if 10m could do it I'm still inclined to think 20m can do something similar tho. Surely it's not gonna be DwD under 10min, but still decently faster than 1H.
My current 1H setup roughly takes about 2 hours to clear all 1,000 clear bonus arenas, which is like 1240 staminas rounds, so roughly his setup is twice as fast.

Are you meaning rounds instead of stamina?

Yea my bad lmao. That doesn't make any sense 1200 staminas lmao...

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 22 2019, 15:35

Yea I'd say 50min is a bit too much. Benny-boy setup something under 10m and he said he burns 1200 staminas in an hour so that might be a better comparison tho. Even if he was really lucky with his finding, if 10m could do it I'm still inclined to think 20m can do something similar tho. Surely it's not gonna be DwD under 10min, but still decently faster than 1H.
My current 1H setup roughly takes about 2 hours to clear all 1,000 clear bonus arenas, which is like 1240 staminas, so roughly his setup is twice as fast.

Are you meaning rounds instead of stamina?

This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 22 2019, 15:31

Mmm, I'm around 2500 rounds for DwD, and my equipment is far from optimized ($350k staff, 2 magnificents and not even forge 5 on everything). Though I think I did spend quite a bit more than 10m on it, part of it is due to high price of wind. I feel like a playable cold mage (no charged/radiants) can probably get to 2700 rounds or so with fairly minimal forging on phases. As Decon said, the vast majority of that budget will actually be spent on forging (and another portion on IW).

I see. Thanks for the inputs. Yea I'm just waiting on that decent staff I can purchase and I'll have to build my thing around that. Currently I'm considering 4+1 with no or maybe one charge for now, but then again I'll have to replace them later on.

Just gotta do some more bounties...

Ah yes, do count roughly 400k cost of amnesia shards per equipment as well. I'm including that cost in the basic setup to play decently. Pen5 and Jug25 are not an option. That 400k does consider you have the dark descent perk, otherwise forget about going mage and get that perk first.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Feb 22 2019, 17:32

lol I think I'll just use the free dark descent service a lot but I get your point.
I first have to get VV and Tokenizer 1 and hopefully DD1 tho, since I think i'll be staying 1H for sometimes :/

As I was saying the other day, you really need a rock-solid setup to rely on and prepare your switch in optimal conditions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
It includes equipment with some forging, trainings, hath perks and depr prof.

Switching to mage is really not to be underestimated, even less to attempt with very minimal means. In particular, you'll be most likely investing in forge efforts that will be lost for good, especially if you use lower quality equipment that will need to be replaced more or less quickly. In which case a solid setup to fall back on is mandatory.

If budget is a concern, 1h mage really could be considered - much cheaper to get arena ready. The only big issue is that you won't be able to do the schoolgirl arenas - either stick with 1h or use mage for that (mage on schoolgirls a lot easier than the non-schoolgirl arenas).

If budget is a concern, 1h mage really could be considered - much cheaper to get arena ready. The only big issue is that you won't be able to do the schoolgirl arenas - either stick with 1h or use mage for that (mage on schoolgirls a lot easier than the non-schoolgirl arenas).

Is buckler of battlecaster better than buckler of barrier?

I don't usually see people using battlecaster, is it better on some occasion?

Is buckler of battlecaster better than buckler of barrier?

I don't usually see people using battlecaster, is it better on some occasion?

my guess is that 1H mage mana pool sucks, they need the mana conservation the battlecaster provides

Is buckler of battlecaster better than buckler of barrier?

I don't usually see people using battlecaster, is it better on some occasion?

Either the waki or the buckler should be battlecaster for the mana conservation and magic accuracy. Depends on what you can get your hands on. Buckler of battlecaster will have higher conservation/accuracy, but less defense compared to barrier. No trouble clearing peerless PFUDOR IW with buckler of battlecaster, but maybe on grindfest it makes a difference.

Got it.

How much would it cost for a battlecast waki or buckler? I don't recall seeing any battlecaster in auctions...

Also, what would be the ideal IW for waki? I thought all of them become useless except swift maybe?

10 mil worth dark mage for DwD?

Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Focus 14% MDB 74% EDB 21% Dark Prof Unforged (Trash)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Cap of Fenrir 39% EDB Unforged (another trash)
Legendary Onyx Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend 92% prof, 5Jug IW, 50 Prof forge (might cost around 4-5 mil, and that's mainly for the forging)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Gloves of Fenrir 31% EDB Unforged (more trash)
Legendary Ruby Cotton Pants of the Demon-fiend 50% Dark Prof, Unforged (yeah...)
Legendary Cobalt Phase Shoes of Fenrir 75% EDB ( ¯\(ツ)/¯ )

DD 1 IA 5
0.840 prof factor, 3154 MDB, 230.9% EDB
63.1 % PMI 65.7 % MMI 53.2 % EVA 22.9 % parry 62.6 % resist
Only imperil SG.
The playstyle is as vanilla as playing 1h without OFC



It could be faster if using imperil on every monster, but ehh... what's done is done.
I believe you won't be able to do this without sufficient level for the investment in base dex-end (for parry and HP).
and eventhough it's working fine on SG, I believe it will a be head-scratching play on non SG arena.

so, 10 mil worth of mage equip for dark mage?
it can be done, just drive a hard bargain for the equips (plain prefix, unpopular cloth/phase slot), then use most of the fund for light-mild forge (i.e it cost ~800K to forge clothes prof to 20, and ~2M for phase EDB to 10, 2 cloth 3 phase 1.6M+6M =7.6M, rest for staff 25EDB+MDB is about 2M iinm)
drawback is it'll be a hard stretch to expect it usable to clear pf-grindfest comfortably even after mid-heavy forge.

but should you?
IMO, no.
it's a wasteful investment to buy 6 pieces of rags if you expect to regularly use the playstyle and expand it for a long period of time.
Different story if you had 2-3 decent pieces ready and fill the rest with rags to make it work.

and as I said a few times, don't try to be cheapskate when trying maging or you're in for another dimension of hurts. cheap set will work but there are a long list of terms and condition.

Got it.

How much would it cost for a battlecast waki or buckler? I don't recall seeing any battlecaster in auctions...

Also, what would be the ideal IW for waki? I thought all of them become useless except swift maybe?

I played 1h mage for a while. Quite a fun style - fun, not overpowering good.

You are not using the waki for hitting monsters. So IW doesn't matter. Hollowforged might reduce burden , but I never got there: Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of the Battlecaster, because featherweights are so cheap. So ideal IW would be leave it, and use featherweight shards. I used this waki of battlecaster together with barrier buckler, and got it working.

Edit: thanks Uncle, you are right of course, IW on 1h mage weapon is completely silly and useless.

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Feb 23 2019, 10:17

Hollowforged might reduce burden

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Since when?

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Since when?

it doesn't? That shows you how good I'm at melee stuff.

from the wiki (that I didn't read):

This does not turn a weapon into a true Ethereal Weapon (it still has burden/interference).

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I really suck at being an expert!