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Seriously, though, what is today? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Or is it meaningless to concern about?

I would say it is, because SS and SoL both take percentages.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Feb 20 2019, 14:55

I want to ask mages.
How many levels for SP Tank ability do you have?

AFAIK,

Spirit Draught & Spirit Potion-> SP recover not affected by SP Tank
Spark of Life-> consume base SP, not affected by SP Tank
Spirit Shield-> affected by SP Tank, more SP consumption if max SP is greater

So, in conclusion SP Tank is good for Spark of Life, but bad for Spirit Shield.
Am I right?
I am having SP Tank 8.
If I want to use less spirit elixir for GF should I have more or less SP Tank?
Or is it meaningless to concern about?

Why is Spirit Shield affected by SP Tank but not by Base Sp?

Why is Spirit Shield affected by SP Tank but not by Base Sp?

So SS is referring base sp?
I think I am confused because after I reduced my PA and SP Tank level I take less SP damage.
Thank you.

This post has been edited by qr12345: Feb 20 2019, 16:51

According to the wiki,

"Spirit Damage = Base_SP * SS_AP_Damage * MIN( (Damage - Max_HP * SS_AP_Damage) / (Max_HP * SS_AP_Damage * 3) , 1)"

So I'd think increasing base SP does not really help because the SP spent scales proportionally with it, but since SP Tank increases the max SP by scaling the base SP instead of increasing the base SP itself, SP Tank should be beneficial.

By the same token, the reason why Suffusive Spirit is useless unlike VV or EE, is that it increases the base SP and that has literally no effect on neither SoL nor SS.

So I say you should level up SP tank whether you are mage or melee according to the wiki, but it'd be better for an actual mage to answer your question.

According to the wiki,

"Spirit Damage = Base_SP * SS_AP_Damage * MIN( (Damage - Max_HP * SS_AP_Damage) / (Max_HP * SS_AP_Damage * 3) , 1)"

So I'd think increasing base SP does not really help because the SP spent scales proportionally with it, but since SP Tank increases the max SP by scaling the base SP instead of increasing the base SP itself, SP Tank should be beneficial.

By the same token, the reason why Suffusive Spirit is useless unlike VV or EE, is that it increases the base SP and that has literally no effect on neither SoL nor SS.

So I say you should level up SP tank whether you are mage or melee according to the wiki, but it'd be better for an actual mage to answer your question.

Yes, Increasing the Base SP doesn't help, but Increasing the Max HP.

Anyone with lots of items (diversity, not quantity) willing to help me out?

Here's the steps:

Go to mooglemail -> Write New tab

Press F12 (Inspect Element) and search 'itemlist'. You should find a line with <table class="nosel itemlist">

Rightclick -> copy -> innerHTML

Go to RegExr.com and paste it into the Text section

Paste this: 'mooglemail.set_mooglemail_item\(([0-9]+),this\)">([a-zA-Z -]+)<\/div>' into expression section

At the tools section, select List and paste this:

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Copy the result and forward it to me. It may be very long, so if you can, go to pastebin.com, make a new paste and send me the URL.

Thanks!

This post has been edited by ihatenamingthings: Feb 20 2019, 18:29

So SS is referring base sp?
I think I am confused because after I reduced my PA and SP Tank level I take less SP damage.
Thank you.

With SP Tank you can afford more Damage when you have full SP.
Supposing that you take 5 Hits in a Turn, each of them are over 20% of your Max HP. And you have maxed the Ability of Stronger Spirit, and use the Spark of Life (the Spell, not from Scorll).

Situation 1
You have no SP Tank, that means that you have 100% Base SP, when you have Max SP.
Each Hit from 1 to 4 will cost you 20% Base SP, after 4 Hits you have 20% Max SP (= 20% Base SP). Then you get the 5 Hit, but you don't have over 50% Base SP left and the Spark of Life fails, so you lose.

Situation 2
You have maxed SP Tank, that means that you have 200% Base SP, when you have Max SP.
Each Hit from 1 to 4 will cost you 20% Base SP, after 4 Hits you still have 60% Max SP (= 120% Base SP). Then you get the 5 Hit, the Spark of Life triggers (costs 50% Base SP), you're still alive. But I'm not sure if the 5 Hit still triggers Spirit Shield. If yes, you have 25% Max SP (= 50% Base SP) left; if not, you have 35% Max SP (= 70% Base SP) left.

Correcting and Critic are welcome.

Bucklers vs. Kites vs. Force Shields, which ones are usually better overall?

And of these two (as a one-hand heavy armor player), which one is superior?

Mag agile buckler of nimble https://hentaiverse.org/equip/163973548/3f94dacc24

Mag force shield of protection
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/35160040/cf870e698f

thanks.

Bucklers vs. Kites vs. Force Shields, which ones are usually better overall?

And of these two (as a one-hand heavy armor player), which one is superior?

Mag agile buckler of nimble https://hentaiverse.org/equip/163973548/3f94dacc24

Mag force shield of protection
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/35160040/cf870e698f

thanks.

the best shield is the one with the best block chance, so it's Force shield...
AFAIK the order is force shield, buckler of barrier, kite shield, then buckler...
for the two shield above, I'll choose the force shield...
even though it was a pre 0.82 one and lower lv. than the buckler, it still has better block chance...

but IMO you could probably find a better one in the WTS...

so, the pary chance + block chance of the buckler would be considered worse overall than that slgihtly higher block of the force shield?

And I take it to then ignore the interference as well?

Yea if you play 1H interference is not too much an issue I suppose. I think if you play something like 1H mage then buckler of nimble/battlecaster is preferred over force shield, but as 1H, always the force shield.

Think of it this way: Peerless non-barrier buckler has lower block chance than the worst exq force shield (with block 0%)

Yea if you play 1H interference is not too much an issue I suppose. I think if you play something like 1H mage then buckler of nimble/battlecaster is preferred over force shield, but as 1H, always the force shield.

Think of it this way: Peerless non-barrier buckler has lower block chance than the worst exq force shield (with block 0%)

So, parry = useless on a shield?

it's because you can't parry magical attack, only physical...
while you could block both of them...
in that sense, block is superior than parry...
for me, parry from weapon & stats are more than enough...

and I think 1H don't care about interference...

it's because you can't parry magical attack, only physical...
while you could block both of them...
in that sense, block is superior than parry...

ah, ok.

that was the missing link. got it.

and from that I assume there are enough non-physical monsters out there that even a straight lower block than parry+block is better.

will switch out, thanks!

it's because you can't parry magical attack, only physical...

i think someone also Did The Numbers and determined that, due to how they add up in a multiplicative fashion, getting higher block from a buckler has a greater effect on physical hits avoided than getting parry from both your shield and weapon

1. Block is generally more useful than parry
2. You can get good amount of parry from dex (1 per 25 eff dex), but not as much for block which gives you a percent for every 40 1H prof.

i think someone also Did The Numbers and determined that, due to how they add up in a multiplicative fashion, getting higher block from a buckler has a greater effect on physical hits avoided than getting parry from both your shield and weapon

thats a new knowledge for me...
so buckler of nimble is basically almost useless then??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1. Block is generally more useful than parry
2. You can get good amount of parry from dex (1 per 25 eff dex), but not as much for block which gives you a percent for every 40 1H prof.

yep...
I already got 18.2% parry just by naked...
when I equip my weapon, my block is only 9.9%...

EDIT:
lol I almost go to RE naked just because I checked it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Greshnik: Feb 20 2019, 18:41

so buckler of nimble is basically almost useless then??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

That's why there is no value in them.

What sickentide says is true, it's a pretty simple calculation just go look at the Legendary equipment block ranges and compare. Roughly though you can consider the extra block/parry from barrier/nimble to be almost the same. Except that block is way better than parry.

so buckler of nimble is basically almost useless then???

Yup it's totally inferior, except for being cheaper than barrier, and still better than protection (and probably warding).

Well the order is evade block parry. So is it really a supprise that block is more effective at avoiding physical damage than parry? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)