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post Feb 19 2019, 08:12
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And what do you want to know? Personally i would say a bit more dex and a bit less end but the difference is quite low so in the end you could just let them as they are.


Well I know my str dex end are fine, but was just wondering about the int, as to would it be worth it to put few more points to it for some magic accuracy and such. What's your INT currently, uncle?
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post Feb 19 2019, 08:17
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 12:48) *

So I guess the maximum was 500 for any? And after the prof rework I can imagine bunch of ppl grinding prof again to get better profs haha.

By the way, my stat currently:

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I think your END is a bit too high???
my END is lower than STR and DEX...
as for INT, I would say to stop add it as it have no benefit for 1H...

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 19 2019, 13:09) *

Oh, and i completly forget to mention that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Thanks for pointing that out Greshnik. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I was still confuse by the shield only parry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

AFAIK only buckler of nimble has parry...
I only have 1 of it...
Magnificent Reinforced Buckler of the Nimble

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post Feb 19 2019, 08:19
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Nearly missed your edit, sorry.
QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 06:38) *

Yo Uncle, what's your magic accuracy and INT right now? Mine is 93.5% and my INT is 137, so maybe I should put in some more points to INT (It's dirt cheap for my level anyways) to boost my magic accuracy a bit? I wonder what kinda accuracy I should be aiming for
QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 07:12) *

Well I know my str dex end are fine, but was just wondering about the int, as to would it be worth it to put few more points to it for some magic accuracy and such. What's your INT currently, uncle?

Ehm. Here are my stats, this is a while ago but mag accuracy is still the same. Also magic accuracy has nothing to do with Int. And my Int is at 287. But you have to remember that i did put all the exp i couldnt use anywhere else there to get at least some spirit points out of them. Also as 1H you dont care about magic accuracy, so you shouldnt aim with that for anything imo.
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 19 2019, 07:17) *

AFAIK only buckler of nimble has parry...
I know, i have just never before seen someone using a buckler of nimble with an axe.

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post Feb 19 2019, 08:23
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Here I am also asking for quick feedback (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think I am lacking holy mitigation but that's probably it, might reforge one of my equipment and aim for jug5+holy.

Oh, my burden is still too low, not sure how to make it to 70?

And my element/divine/forbidden/deprecating proficiency are a bit low because I am too lazy to cast them... Saioux already surpass me in this regard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I feel the excessive amount of wisdom and int is not a big deal, reduce 32 wisdom can only give me 1 more endurance and I think it isn't too bad to be like this?

The current plan is to replace one warding with a slaughter. Chasing Greshnik atm. Probably replace the only balance with another warding afterward. But is it possible to achieve 200% accuracy without a balance? Others haven't decided yet, maybe replace all with the savage prefix at the end? Tbh most aren't in my control (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Feb 19 2019, 08:26
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 19 2019, 01:17) *

I think your END is a bit too high???
my END is lower than STR and DEX...
as for INT, I would say to stop add it as it have no benefit for 1H...
AFAIK only buckler of nimble has parry...
I only have 1 of it...
Magnificent Reinforced Buckler of the Nimble


Well END doesn't necessarily have to be lower than STR and DEX, I keep END a bit higher because I get a lot less bonus PAB for END compared to STR and DEX.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 19 2019, 01:19) *

Nearly missed your edit, sorry.

Ehm. Here are my stats, this is a while ago but mag accuracy is still the same. Also magic accuracy has nothing to do with Int. And my Int is at 287. But you have to remember that i did put all the exp i couldnt use anywhere else there to get at least some spirit points out of them. Also as 1H you dont care about magic accuracy, so you shouldnt aim with that for anything imo.
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I know, i have just never before seen someone using a buckler of nimble with an axe.


Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yea I confused magical crit INT gives for magical accuracy haha. I was just wondering because my imperil still tends to miss a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Feb 19 2019, 08:27
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 19 2019, 07:23) *

Oh, my burden is still too low, not sure how to make it to 70?
Easy, not at all. The higher the tier of your equipment, the lower the burden, so when you reach Leg or Peerl Tier it is impossible to reach such a burden.
QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 19 2019, 07:23) *
And my proficiency is a bit low because I am too lazy to cast them... Saioux already surpass me in this regard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Cast what? This sentence really lacks information for me to understand what you are talking about.
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I was just wondering because my imperil still tends to miss a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Are you sure it misses and not just get resisted?


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post Feb 19 2019, 08:28
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 12:38) *

Yo Uncle, what's your magic accuracy and INT right now? Mine is 93.5% and my INT is 137, so maybe I should put in some more points to INT (It's dirt cheap for my level anyways) to boost my magic accuracy a bit? I wonder what kinda accuracy I should be aiming for

quoting myself with slight edit...
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Int doesn't increase magic accuracy, Wis does it...

the only INT does for 1H/melee is to inc your SP and SP regen a little...
and you will only get a very little benefit from it as 2 of thing that consume SP (SoL and SS) are based of percentage...
QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 13:26) *

Well END doesn't necessarily have to be lower than STR and DEX, I keep END a bit higher because I get a lot less bonus PAB for END compared to STR and DEX.
Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yea I confused magical crit INT gives for magical accuracy haha. I was just wondering because my imperil still tends to miss a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

use aether shard...
from my experience it helps for casting imperil...
I usually use 2 shard daily just for SG arena...

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post Feb 19 2019, 08:39
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Dude the lowest price quote for aether shard on the market is 3k....It's not worth it lmao
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post Feb 19 2019, 08:54
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well, I got ~25k credits just from DwD, so I definitely wont go to red by using it...
and I prefer using less turn to cast imperil than being stingy...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
the other option you could try are buying the perks, inc. your prof, and also your WIS...
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post Feb 19 2019, 09:00
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Boys, behave, be nice. You know what I'm referring to, the conversation on the previous page. I missed that conversation, so I'll leave it for now. Let's try to keep this a friendly thread for questions. If you don't want to answer, then don't answer.
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post Feb 19 2019, 09:06
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 19 2019, 01:54) *

well, I got ~25k credits just from DwD, so I definitely wont go to red by using it...
and I prefer using less turn to cast imperil than being stingy...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
the other option you could try are buying the perks, inc. your prof, and also your WIS...


Maybe I should try it out after all. I guess you using two shards is because of low t/s due to internet connection? Because you do much better than me yet it seems you spend more real time on the arenas
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post Feb 19 2019, 09:22
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I'm thinking of using staff to knock monsters in the arena, is it viable? (fully forged staff has good ADB, but no block and parry I guess) I wish there are simulations so I won't be a dumb ass walking in pretty much naked :3

I still can't fight RE naked, is it even possible?

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post Feb 19 2019, 09:26
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 14:06) *

Maybe I should try it out after all. I guess you using two shards is because of low t/s due to internet connection? Because you do much better than me yet it seems you spend more real time on the arenas

yeah...
around 45mins for DwD, 25 mins for Eternal Darkness, and 20 mins for End of Days... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
I still sometimes miss the imperil, but it definitely less than without the shard...
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post Feb 19 2019, 09:45
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QUOTE(fetapipi @ Feb 19 2019, 01:33) *

Anyone here know and can teach me where and how to bind imperil on numpad (pref. num2,5,8 and 9) in monsterbation?. Thanks.

This is how I did it:
Bind(103, Strongest([TargetMonster(1), Cast('Imperil')])); // Numpad 7
Bind(104, Strongest([TargetMonster(4), Cast('Imperil')])); // Numpad 8
Bind(105, Strongest([TargetMonster(7), Cast('Imperil')])); // Numpad 9

It casts on monster 2, 5 and 8 respectively.
Dunno if it will work for you. Don't forget to scroll up a lit a bit to find the websites where you czn determine your keycodes, if needed.

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my today's beginner level question:

1. for infusion "do 25% more damage with ccc magicks" , is it change my weapon damage to xxx and do 25% more damage, or only 25% more damage for my xxx damage part?

2. boss's drop do not have difference for different difficulty, so since i do not have much time for daily work and currently only care about how much C i can earn, I can just use normal level for ring of blood and arena (yesterday scared by EoD), only higher difficulty for random encounter?

1. Neither.
Whatever the weapon, it will get a +25% elemental damage bonus, which stacks additively with your already existing spell damage bonus (which you can find on your character page after scrolling down). That multiplier only affects the strength of offensive magic of the associate type, nothing else. In other words, if you already have +75% cold damage bonus and use an Infusion of Frost, it will go up to +100% and your cold spells will basically deal double the normal damage instead of "only" +75% damage.
Translation: that bonus is perfectly useless for melee players, and quite weak for mage players because they already have +200%/+400% elemental damage bonus.
The only useful effect an infusion will have, is adding a (physical) elemental strike to the weapon. And that one will increase your DPS significantly. It won't benefit from the spell damage bonus though, since it's not a spell.

2. The boss'es drops may not change with difficulty, but credits and equipment drops are higher with higher difficulties. Just play an acceptable difficulty for whatever the challenge you play. One can get around 25kC by clearing PFUDOR DwD alone, without counting equipment drops or anything, only the raw credits that drop from monsters.

QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 06:39) *

Dude the lowest price quote for aether shard on the market is 3k....It's not worth it lmao

I use 2 Aether Shards before entering PFFEST with my Imperil Shortsword playstyle. Totally worth it. Especially when I drop pretty much 1-2 of them most of the time.
99% magic accuracy -> 149% magic accuracy is a whole world of difference when it comes to land Imperil successfully. Oh, and you also get -10% cost on spell costs aswell.
I'm even planning on trying those things to reach 200% magic accuracy on a future and hypothetic Arcanist build, to see how it goes.

@Fudo:
Ahhh... the good old times when base proficiency had to be deserved the hard way.
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post Feb 19 2019, 09:54
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 19 2019, 02:45) *

I use 2 Aether Shards before entering PFFEST with my Imperil Shortsword playstyle. Totally worth it. Especially when I drop pretty much 1-2 of them most of the time.
99% magic accuracy -> 149% magic accuracy is a whole world of difference when it comes to land Imperil successfully. Oh, and you also get -10% cost on spell costs aswell.


Thanks for the inputs. So I've reached 4.8k turns as of yesterday with infusion, but then again maybe that was the case only because it was a dark day. I'ma try out with or without the shards to see how much time I'd save.
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post Feb 19 2019, 10:26
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what infusion do you usually prefer to use when it's your weapon's element day and friday???
do you use flame because it is the cheapest???
or do you use other element???
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post Feb 19 2019, 10:40
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 12:38) *

Glad I missed it XD That looks like some party I don't want to be at haha...As for not killing the goddesses I guess at that time proficiency gain was dependent on the number of times you hit it with staff and such? That doesn't sound so fun...That literally was grinding lol.


each whack had chance of 0.01 to 0.03 prof increase, the chance doubled (or 5x at lvl 1?) and gradually decrease to 'normal' at 250 and decrease further (post 250 I guess) when it close to your level (max cap), alike to the chance of getting PAB bonuses from PA.
how high is normal chance? idk, 10%? 5%? ¯\(ツ)/¯ it's not that low actually, but still took a good chunk of time from playing a comfortable playstyle if you wants to grind every prof to it's max (every level)...

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but put the banhammer down before entering the ring, that's not fair.

QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 19 2019, 14:22) *

I'm thinking of using staff to knock monsters in the arena, is it viable? (fully forged staff has good ADB, but no block and parry I guess) I wish there are simulations so I won't be a dumb ass walking in pretty much naked :3

I still can't fight RE naked, is it even possible?


still not possible even on normal?

QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 19 2019, 15:26) *

what infusion do you usually prefer to use when it's your weapon's element day and friday???
do you use flame because it is the cheapest???
or do you use other element???


whichever I have more than the other.
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post Feb 19 2019, 10:42
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 19 2019, 03:26) *

what infusion do you usually prefer to use when it's your weapon's element day and friday???
do you use flame because it is the cheapest???
or do you use other element???


I only use holy or dark regardless of the day because the only reason to use infusion is for SGs anyways
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post Feb 19 2019, 11:03
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I'm sitting on 11 stocking stuffers...
What are the odds I'll get something worth selling, vs. just selling the trophy itself?
Is there like a value calculation or smth?
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post Feb 19 2019, 11:38
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Feb 19 2019, 08:42) *

I only use holy or dark regardless of the day because the only reason to use infusion is for SGs anyways

Erm, no. As a melee player, you should have infusions on at all times except during REs and ROBs.
If you invested enough in trainings, you should be dropping a bit more infusions than you use anyway.

I was sitting on more than 600 each before I switched to mage to clear arenas.
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