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post Feb 18 2019, 01:38
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Assuming the equipment is worthy, it should be worth the average cost it takes to achieve Jug5. If the equipment is not worthy, it may not recoup the invested cost. If you got Jug5 on a superior armor it wouldn't be worth anything. An equipment is worthy when the buyer believes he would have been willing to achieve Jug5 on it himself.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Feb 16 2019, 20:56) *
I checked a lot of item world logs and the expected cost of But+Fat=9 is about 1.3m credits, and the expected cost of Jug5+Any5 is also 1.3m credits. Plain Jug5+Any+Any is much easier, I didn't check how much but probably 400k~600k.

As for imperfect things like Jug4, or But+Fat=8, they are worthless if the equipment is too good for that, as well as being valued less if the equipment is too poor for that. Item worlds should fit the value of the equipment to achieve full value.

Jug5+Cap5 or Jug5+Holy5 would be worth even higher, but most people don't think it's worth it, so in all likelihood the value won't exceed the 1.3m of Jug5+Any5 (meaning you insist on 2 potencies but don't care what the second one is).
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post Feb 18 2019, 01:41
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Assuming the equipment is worthy, it should be worth the average cost it takes to achieve Jug5.
N Nope. If the equipment is meh, no one will pay more just for the IW. If the equipment is good, it has allready a good price by itself, so it is imo just naive to think that any IW would bring people to pay more for it. I cant see it. And that i cant most of the people actual IW equipment before they sent it to an auctions proves me right imo.
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post Feb 18 2019, 04:43
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hi~im again:
where does the "binding" come from? i level up from 80 to 210 last week, but didn't get any drop of binding material.
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post Feb 18 2019, 04:46
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QUOTE(shiyun @ Feb 18 2019, 03:43) *

hi~im again:
where does the "binding" come from? i level up from 80 to 210 last week, but didn't get any drop of binding material.

So in all this time you never even once visited your monsterlab and created some monster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 18 2019, 05:07
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QUOTE(shiyun @ Feb 18 2019, 09:43) *

hi~im again:
where does the "binding" come from? i level up from 80 to 210 last week, but didn't get any drop of binding material.

forging materials are gift from your monster in monster lab...
at least once in 3 days your monster will gift you something like low-high grade materials, special mats like phazon, or bindings...
you could also get bindings from shrining pony figurines, but I would not recommend it...
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post Feb 18 2019, 05:13
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e...I created several monsters(~=5) and received some material like low-cloth.... never know all these important bindings come from here.... so stupid i spend lots of token to level up monsters...
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post Feb 18 2019, 05:21
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QUOTE(shiyun @ Feb 18 2019, 04:13) *

so stupid i spend lots of token to level up monsters...

Yeah, about that, i wouldnt worry about those few tokens you did spend on those monster. Just use them now for unlocking more slots and everything will be fine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 18 2019, 05:47
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 17 2019, 18:41) *

N Nope. If the equipment is meh, no one will pay more just for the IW. If the equipment is good, it has allready a good price by itself, so it is imo just naive to think that any IW would bring people to pay more for it. I cant see it. And that i cant most of the people actual IW equipment before they sent it to an auctions proves me right imo.


I think it's mostly because IW require more than the cost of the equipment itself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

So, for example, does my gauntlet count as worth IW to Jug5 or meh? I only plan to use it from 380-407 but It's my first leg gauntlet and I just IWed it anyway despite its mediocre stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 18 2019, 06:27
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Feb 18 2019, 12:47) *

I think it's mostly because IW require more than the cost of the equipment itself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

So, for example, does my gauntlet count as worth IW to Jug5 or meh? I only plan to use it from 380-407 but It's my first leg gauntlet and I just IWed it anyway despite its mediocre stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I mean, if you do it yourself/free IW service from someone, having IW 10 is better than not having anything at all.

Will it increase the cost of your equip if you want to sell it? Depends on the type of equip.
Those gauntlets aren't worth much, even with jug5 + cap5.
Still worth more than no IW at all.
But not much different.

Hence, if you had to pay for IW (either buying services or spending shards) it's def not worth it.
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post Feb 18 2019, 06:30
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Feb 18 2019, 05:27) *

+ cap5.

Cap is absolute worthless on power armor.
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post Feb 18 2019, 07:20
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today first time enter "End of Days", my god, is this really worth the time i spend on it?
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post Feb 18 2019, 07:24
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QUOTE(shiyun @ Feb 18 2019, 06:20) *

today first time enter "End of Days", my god, is this really worth the time i spend on it?

What arena is that again? Oh, its the arena i am doing right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, when you think End of Days takes some time, wait for your first Dance with the Dragon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And yes, imo it is worth. You will be able to do it faster when you get stronger. Even as 1H i only need a bit more than 30 minutes for DwD atm.

Btw did you use everthing you could to speed things up? Lets say you play 1H, and i dont know what you play, but lets pretend you do. In that case you could have use imperil and vital strike to kill those SG together with an infusion on your weapon it shouldnt be too bad.

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post Feb 18 2019, 07:29
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 18 2019, 12:24) *

Even as 1H i only need a bit more than 30 minutes for DwD atm.

it really depends on t/s Uncle...
with my t/s I usually spend around 45mins to 1h to do it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Feb 18 2019, 07:35
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Feb 18 2019, 06:29) *

it really depends on t/s Uncle...
with my t/s I usually spend around 45mins to 1h to do it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Hey my t/s is shit. With good t/s i would be allready near 20 minutes. But even with shitty t/s it is not that hard to get near the 30 min marks. And sure you could now say, but uncle your are Lvl 500, and i would answer, yes i am, but i also use a non slaughter set, so it is in the end not so hard to even surpase my damage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 18 2019, 07:37
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i dont get healh elixir from battle is this normal?
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post Feb 18 2019, 07:41
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QUOTE(nek @ Feb 18 2019, 05:37) *

i dont get healh elixir from battle is this normal?

It's just RNG.
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post Feb 18 2019, 07:44
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 18 2019, 12:35) *

Hey my t/s is shit. With good t/s i would be allready near 20 minutes. But even with shitty t/s it is not that hard to get near the 30 min marks. And sure you could now say, but uncle your are Lvl 500, and i would answer, yes i am, but i also use a non slaughter set, so it is in the end not so hard to even surpase my damage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

yeah, it's really feels slow when having 1-1.5 t/s...
maybe if I have 3 t/s I would finish it around 20mins... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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i dont get healh elixir from battle is this normal?

I think you just unlucky...
I never buy it and don't pay attention to it, and now I have around 500 health elixir... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 18 2019, 08:13
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 18 2019, 07:24) *

What arena is that again? Oh, its the arena i am doing right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, when you think End of Days takes some time, wait for your first Dance with the Dragon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And yes, imo it is worth. You will be able to do it faster when you get stronger. Even as 1H i only need a bit more than 30 minutes for DwD atm.

Btw did you use everthing you could to speed things up? Lets say you play 1H, and i dont know what you play, but lets pretend you do. In that case you could have use imperil and vital strike to kill those SG together with an infusion on your weapon it shouldnt be too bad.



maybe i should lower the difficulty? currently im using 2h in hell mode, i guess need around 1.5h to finish it...
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post Feb 18 2019, 08:15
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QUOTE(shiyun @ Feb 18 2019, 07:13) *

maybe i should lower the difficulty? currently im using 2h in hell mode, i guess need around 1.5h to finish it...

Imperil and infusion should still help you if you dont use them allready.
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post Feb 18 2019, 08:52
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Idk about 2H because I don't play it, but at least as 1H I find it helpful to imperil every round even on non-SG monsters. Plus it gets your deprecating proficiency higherj so I'd recommend that. For infusion, use either divinity/darkness that's different from the element of your weapon since those last three arenas have monsters that are esp weak to those two elements and they are the throttling factors of clear time.
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